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My wife, with a Ukrainian internal passport, went to the Kuban for my mother's funeral by train through Moscow and further to Krasnodar. Can she shorten the distance and return back through the Crimea?
My wife, with a Ukrainian internal passport, went to the Kuban for my mother's funeral by train through Moscow and further to Krasnodar. Can she shorten the distance and return back through the Crimea?
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Can. But the Ukrainian border guards will not appreciate the maneuver)).
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answered 6 years ago
In no case. Don't even try. They won't miss. Although, I heard that the issue is resolved for a certain amount.
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answered 6 years ago
I don’t know, but my children even traveled to Abkhazia through Crimea on business. Back, too, there were no questions! Apparently "Ukrainian border guards did not appreciate the maneuver!" But the Russians hesitated, rather they did not appreciate him!
Just in case, let him stock up on a copy of his mother’s death certificate, maybe something else, even a photo of the grave. After all, people are everywhere, even though the caps are different! Especially since it's a woman! And let him go, only the route will work, because not by his own car, there are transfers, etc.
Just in case, let him stock up on a copy of his mother’s death certificate, maybe something else, even a photo of the grave. After all, people are everywhere, even though the caps are different! Especially since it's a woman! And let him go, only the route will work, because not by his own car, there are transfers, etc.
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answered 6 years ago
No, Alex! You're not right. Your children entered Crimea through our checkpoint and left the same way. And people are going to enter Crimea from Russia. We will have a question, on what basis? There were such cases. People really turned around.
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answered 6 years ago
No, there will be a question - how did she get into the territory of Crimea outside the checkpoints of Ukraine? Of course, they will let her into Ukraine, draw up a protocol on an administrative violation and impose a fine.
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answered 6 years ago
Such a route, from the point of view of the Ukrainian authorities, is illegal. Entry into the Crimea is possible only through the checkpoint of Ukraine.
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answered 6 years ago
Article 204-1 item 1 of the Code of Administrative Offenses "Illegal crossing or attempt to illegally cross the state border of Ukraine documents or using a forged document or containing inaccurate identity, or without the permission of the relevant authorities - entail a fine of two hundred to five hundred non-taxable minimum incomes or administrative arrest for up to fifteen days , with confiscation of tools and means of committing an offense. "
Article 204-2 paragraph 1 of the Code of Administrative Offenses Violation of the order of entry into and departure from the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine - Violation of the order of entry into and departure from the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine - entails a fine of one hundred to three hundred non-taxable minimum incomes. "
There will be a fine from UAH 170 to UAH 8,500.
Article 204-2 paragraph 1 of the Code of Administrative Offenses Violation of the order of entry into and departure from the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine - Violation of the order of entry into and departure from the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine - entails a fine of one hundred to three hundred non-taxable minimum incomes. "
There will be a fine from UAH 170 to UAH 8,500.
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answered 6 years ago
Then I cannot understand Shedrv, but how did his wife end up in Moscow? Not with migratory birds?
He wrote "by train through Moscow", and the train could not pass by the checkpoint. How did his wife get out of Ukraine? crawling through vegetable gardens?! Then it is necessary to put the question correctly: "The wife illegally made her way to Russia, bypassing the cordons." Then article 204-1.2.
This is my opinion. I have not seen anywhere that it is impossible to enter the territory of Russia by train from Kyiv or through Kharkov, but to enter Ukraine through the Crimea. But, as chaos, everything can happen! We are at war with them!
He wrote "by train through Moscow", and the train could not pass by the checkpoint. How did his wife get out of Ukraine? crawling through vegetable gardens?! Then it is necessary to put the question correctly: "The wife illegally made her way to Russia, bypassing the cordons." Then article 204-1.2.
This is my opinion. I have not seen anywhere that it is impossible to enter the territory of Russia by train from Kyiv or through Kharkov, but to enter Ukraine through the Crimea. But, as chaos, everything can happen! We are at war with them!
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answered 6 years ago
Crimea is a temporarily occluded territory, there is a procedure for entry and exit to this territory for citizens of Ukraine, for citizens of foreign states and for refugees
Even if you legally cross the border of Ukraine and Russia and enter the territory of Russia, then returning through Crimea is a violation of Ukrainian law
Even if you legally cross the border of Ukraine and Russia and enter the territory of Russia, then returning through Crimea is a violation of Ukrainian law
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answered 6 years ago
alex45, if you please tell fairy tales ... "The maneuver will not be appreciated" - this is not about passport control, but about an administrative fine, so there is no need to distort.
And by the way, in what year did the children go to Abkhazia like that?
And by the way, in what year did the children go to Abkhazia like that?
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answered 6 years ago
"And it was last year, I can confirm the photo, although why do you need it!"
Yes, out of pure curiosity. Since 2016, Abkhazia has introduced a visa regime with Ukraine, so the technical side is interesting - did you really have to buy visas?
In your case, they did not give a fine, since there were no marks left in the passports about leaving the Crimean Republic. Abkhazia, as far as I remember, is not eager to put stamps.
Yes, out of pure curiosity. Since 2016, Abkhazia has introduced a visa regime with Ukraine, so the technical side is interesting - did you really have to buy visas?
In your case, they did not give a fine, since there were no marks left in the passports about leaving the Crimean Republic. Abkhazia, as far as I remember, is not eager to put stamps.
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answered 6 years ago
Once again for the curious!
Last summer, on the business of the company, my children traveled by car from Zaporozhye through Chongar to the Crimea, then by ferry to Anapa, along the highway to Sochi to Sukhumi.
The Ukrainian border guards let them through quickly, asking only how they would return (no one hid the route). The Russians lingered for a long time, like Jews from Israel, asking several times if they would stay in the Crimea and, taking a break from the whole car, they even filmed policemen. They let them through, there were no further questions. In Sochi, their partners met, in Sukhumi they resolved the issues and returned the same way. Naturally, they did not buy any visas, because. all Abkhazians are brothers, and they were met! True, mine said that they did not want to have any more business with either the Russian Caucasus or Abkhazia. And it is in connection with such a situation. It's easier to go to Nice and Marseille, which they did this year!
I hope you are satisfied! Before the HARDWARE I apologize, it is better to let the wife return by the same route as she stopped by!
Last summer, on the business of the company, my children traveled by car from Zaporozhye through Chongar to the Crimea, then by ferry to Anapa, along the highway to Sochi to Sukhumi.
The Ukrainian border guards let them through quickly, asking only how they would return (no one hid the route). The Russians lingered for a long time, like Jews from Israel, asking several times if they would stay in the Crimea and, taking a break from the whole car, they even filmed policemen. They let them through, there were no further questions. In Sochi, their partners met, in Sukhumi they resolved the issues and returned the same way. Naturally, they did not buy any visas, because. all Abkhazians are brothers, and they were met! True, mine said that they did not want to have any more business with either the Russian Caucasus or Abkhazia. And it is in connection with such a situation. It's easier to go to Nice and Marseille, which they did this year!
I hope you are satisfied! Before the HARDWARE I apologize, it is better to let the wife return by the same route as she stopped by!
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answered 6 years ago
Alex, you don't seem to want to understand what you wrote above. In your case - "returned the same way" - no problem.
In the case of the author of the question, her mother will enter Crimea bypassing the Ukrainian checkpoints. It's like you crossed the border of Poland through the forest, illegally, and then you try to go back through the checkpoint - the question is immediately - how did you get there?
Words about "lawlessness" are inappropriate here - there is relevant legislation, you can get into Crimea only through Ukrainian checkpoints, entry into the occupied territory through Russia is illegal.
In the case of the author of the question, her mother will enter Crimea bypassing the Ukrainian checkpoints. It's like you crossed the border of Poland through the forest, illegally, and then you try to go back through the checkpoint - the question is immediately - how did you get there?
Words about "lawlessness" are inappropriate here - there is relevant legislation, you can get into Crimea only through Ukrainian checkpoints, entry into the occupied territory through Russia is illegal.
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answered 6 years ago
alex45 you did not understand the question a little, your children left Ukraine through the Crimea, and returned back to Ukraine also through the Crimea.
And the author is interested in the moment if the entry into the territory of the Russian Federation was not through the Crimea, but through Moscow, and in order to shorten the distance, she wants to return through the Crimea. This maneuver is prohibited by Ukrainian law. As people mentioned above, there are rules for entering and leaving the occupied territory. Therefore, your wife should also return along the route as she left.
And the author is interested in the moment if the entry into the territory of the Russian Federation was not through the Crimea, but through Moscow, and in order to shorten the distance, she wants to return through the Crimea. This maneuver is prohibited by Ukrainian law. As people mentioned above, there are rules for entering and leaving the occupied territory. Therefore, your wife should also return along the route as she left.
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answered 6 years ago
He understood everything perfectly. I really want to troll the Russian public. "Ukrainians immediately let through, and the Russians took off the poliks (rugs)." This is the whole question ... itching.
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answered 6 years ago
That's it, it's itching! And I understood everything perfectly, lazy_person. Let's wait until the railway message to Russia is closed. A man cannot bury a mother! And let me be a troll, I'll survive!
I apologize to TS for the wrong answer. But I did not think that a trip through the Crimea to Abkhazia would be of interest to so many respected people. It turns out that not only ollennka from Barnaul is curious about how to travel to the Crimea, how much the fine costs (I answer her - not at all!). And about lawlessness, where did I write?!
I apologize to TS for the wrong answer. But I did not think that a trip through the Crimea to Abkhazia would be of interest to so many respected people. It turns out that not only ollennka from Barnaul is curious about how to travel to the Crimea, how much the fine costs (I answer her - not at all!). And about lawlessness, where did I write?!
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answered 6 years ago
On the other hand, given the modest size of fines, it may well be more profitable to come through the Crimea with a fine than a flight to Moscow + a train to Kyiv. So for the money I still advise you to compare.
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answered 6 years ago
alex45, not only do you answer nonsense to the author of the question, you also cannot accept that you have been corrected. You have to be calm, nerve cells are not restored.
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answered 6 years ago
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