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Finally, Join Up will answer for the eternal lawlessness (or will it pay off?))
A criminal case has been initiated against the ill-fated TO. Victims can participate in the "banquet". Others beware!
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The most terrible tour operator in the world. I personally can’t fly an hour before departure, since we and another family of three were not on the lists. Arriving back in Krivoy Rog, there were not enough buses for transfer to the Dnieper, as a result we left, and another 25 people remained in the open air at +38. My colleague’s family couldn’t fly out of Bulgaria this year. Perhaps this office works normally abroad, has some kind of name, but in Ukraine it’s real hell, it’s better to pay 50 bucks extra and fly with Anex, I have everything.
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answered 6 years ago
The option "or ...", when the crisis was at its peak, the Minister of Hyperloop called on the carpet to join up and the bravo airline + their clones, so what? press conference and everything is OK, but the problems remained, flight cancellations remained, flight delays remained, the luggage of all passengers of the aircraft was forgotten at the airport of departure. Minister Hyperloop promised that the old planes would not fly and would serve charters, so what? Show Must Go On
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answered 6 years ago
the topiccaster is touching))) if you knew how many criminal cases were initiated at different times in enterprises that are still alive and well ..... in particular, Roshen ....
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answered 6 years ago
It does not touch, but dulls.
Just like banks. If their activity stops even for a couple of days, then there will be no banquets or "banquets".
And the victims will be, as usual, people. Those who used to be led to cheap prices, and those who are now led to order.
Just like banks. If their activity stops even for a couple of days, then there will be no banquets or "banquets".
And the victims will be, as usual, people. Those who used to be led to cheap prices, and those who are now led to order.
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answered 6 years ago
in August last year, TO Idriska threw people .... and what's the point? like they went bankrupt ... even if they prove something, then their established capital will not even pay back 10% of the losses.
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answered 6 years ago
Well, do not take a tour from them and everything, do you need everything by all means to bankrupt them? Who will pay compensation to tourists who bought tours from them even before all these troubles, you, the author? Or a lawyer proyanykovsky, mmm? You don’t see beyond your nose or don’t want to, just don’t need to show your narrow-mindedness for everyone to see
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answered 6 years ago
Let all those to whom Joint money must necessarily participate in this bacchanalia, then the operator will go bankrupt and no one will get anything for sure).
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answered 6 years ago
It does not touch, but dulls.
TO like banks
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Filter the words, umka. See for tankers "or pay off." And the analogy sucks, especially after cleaning the banking system
These are the couch warriors that keep the system of divorces afloat. In this case, the victims got up and armed themselves with a crowbar. It is clear that our court is the most humane court in the world (c), but given the years of unpunished scammers, it’s still a win) And finally let the join go bankrupt and get out of Ukraine ... who is against it?)
TO like banks
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Filter the words, umka. See for tankers "or pay off." And the analogy sucks, especially after cleaning the banking system
These are the couch warriors that keep the system of divorces afloat. In this case, the victims got up and armed themselves with a crowbar. It is clear that our court is the most humane court in the world (c), but given the years of unpunished scammers, it’s still a win) And finally let the join go bankrupt and get out of Ukraine ... who is against it?)
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answered 6 years ago
Let all those to whom Joint money must necessarily participate in this bacchanalia, then the operator will go bankrupt and no one will receive anything for sure)
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And if he gets it, the join will continue to throw left and right. Someone always pays for a "bright future"
Cut to hell without waiting for peritonitis! (c)
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And if he gets it, the join will continue to throw left and right. Someone always pays for a "bright future"
Cut to hell without waiting for peritonitis! (c)
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answered 6 years ago
I don’t know ... but once again it seems to me that this is a demonstration performance .... well, they started a case, not for the first and not the last time, well, they promoted ... people were distracted from more serious problems ... on this and that's all., but the old air park was as it was ... no one revised the norms, as the poor minister Omelyan promised, whose wife gives birth "for free" in the States.
In fact, Joints owe money for what? for transferring flights, and not for the vacation itself ... so why are all the troubles on Joins, and not on carriers too? as usual, they will find a scapegoat and that's it.
In fact, Joints owe money for what? for transferring flights, and not for the vacation itself ... so why are all the troubles on Joins, and not on carriers too? as usual, they will find a scapegoat and that's it.
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answered 6 years ago
Join Up has problems not only with flight rescheduling. They are absolutely rude to tourists. The tourist pays for 12 nights at the hotel, - in fact, the tour operator pays for 9 nights and confronts the fact that "your flight is postponed to an early date, please provide a room." Compensation is paid - 29u. e. per day. So this year, our friend with a child on vacation in Egypt, Join Up was thrown out of the hotel. They picked up some poor fellows from different hotels, brought them to the airport - and then the accompanying guide dumped, and for 40 minutes people stuck out in the heat with suitcases and children, on the street, because they were not allowed into the airport building. Because the TO did not bother to transfer the lists of passengers for departure on that day. Okay, damn it, you have a force majeure - and you urgently need to fill the board, for this you are ahead of schedule disrupting tourists from vacation. But, blah, strain and print a list of passengers for departure is it really so difficult? After these poor souls finally contacted the Joint Apa office in Egypt and were allowed to enter the airport, the show continued at the front desk. Less than an hour until the end of boarding - and people are not registered - they are not on the lists for departure, their vouchers have a different date! IMHO: Join Up to the answer!
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answered 6 years ago
Another thing is that the opening of a criminal case does not give any guarantees of satisfaction to the injured tourists. Well, they will deprive the license, the company will declare itself bankrupt - no payments will follow to anyone, because there is no money. I think the only way to punish in such a way that others would be repulsed is to imprison the owners and management of the company. And the amount of compensation and fines to hang personally on them. Let them work in prison
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answered 6 years ago
"I think the only way to punish in such a way that others would be disrespectful is to imprison the owners and management of the company. And hang the amount of compensation and fines personally on them. Let them work out in prison"
Yep, that's exactly what it's going to be....
Call the minister and the police with the prosecutor's office and say that you have found the only right solution in this situation.
Atu Join apa, atu him ....
Yep, that's exactly what it's going to be....
Call the minister and the police with the prosecutor's office and say that you have found the only right solution in this situation.
Atu Join apa, atu him ....
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answered 6 years ago
and in your opinion, you don’t need to do anything at all. No responsibility and nothing! Let the chaos continue, hurrah! And you don't need to call anyone - it's all useless anyway
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answered 6 years ago
the fish is rotting from the head ... in order to do something in the legal field, it is necessary to change the system, and not send the management and management of the maintenance to prison for work, when at the same time others, both old and new, will fly used aircraft that are out of order and do not comply with any European standards and not fulfill their obligations.
If in this matter"justice prevails" let's rejoice together....
Therefore, I envy your optimism and maximalism.
If in this matter"justice prevails" let's rejoice together....
Therefore, I envy your optimism and maximalism.
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answered 6 years ago
my agent says that there is a strong suspicion that what is happening with Join and all the hysteria around him is partly a result of competition. yes, Join did not calculate his strength, declaring a huge number of directions and intending to fly even from small cities. with such a flight schedule, it is necessary that the aircraft fly properly and there are spare sides. but, in Ukraine, frank 20-30-year-old junk flies, breaking every other time. so shifts. in addition, there is an acute shortage of boards - one plane fell out of Bravo - the entire flight schedule broke down. Join was counting on his Sky Up, but he is being put in a lot of trouble. they are delaying the issuance of licenses for aircraft. Sky Apu should have been licensed to fly to the EU in July or even earlier, but July is ending - there is no license. and so in everything. there are a lot of pitfalls, given which the situation becomes not so unambiguous. they say that UIA does not like the appearance of Sky Up. and other tour operators are not happy with Join's pricing policy. TPG had a lot of delays in the summer - they are shouting about them on every corner? No. He kept an oasis of people in Tunisia - no one really shouts about it either. Idriska scammed people last year - everything is quiet.
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answered 6 years ago
I do not like the work of Join Ap- do not take tours from them and all, do not have to "punish ". Or do you think when they go bankrupt others will offer you tours "for 300 USD" as everyone likes? You are constantly being manipulated like a herd, and you are leading. I especially like when the "true patriot" contacted this disgusting lawyer - because you can't see the deck in your eyes, right?
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answered 6 years ago
Cut to hell without waiting for peritonitis! (c)
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Of course, cut when you have already received your money for the canceled tour. and other tourists who have Join's tours in their hands or who have not yet received their money back.... come on, other people's problems don't **** us. the main thing is that they stepped on my foot, so let them take revenge on the offender in full - they will cut off my foot or, better, kill it altogether. what is important is the moral satisfaction that you so want to get, hiding behind good intentions.
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Of course, cut when you have already received your money for the canceled tour. and other tourists who have Join's tours in their hands or who have not yet received their money back.... come on, other people's problems don't **** us. the main thing is that they stepped on my foot, so let them take revenge on the offender in full - they will cut off my foot or, better, kill it altogether. what is important is the moral satisfaction that you so want to get, hiding behind good intentions.
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answered 6 years ago
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read the messages of the topicmaster - there is a stupidly personal insult. yes, the situation is unpleasant, but this is an earlier booking - you win somewhere, you lose somewhere. we ourselves took a tour from Joinin in December (at the rate of 36), then canceled it.
read the messages of the topicmaster - there is a stupidly personal insult. yes, the situation is unpleasant, but this is an earlier booking - you win somewhere, you lose somewhere. we ourselves took a tour from Joinin in December (at the rate of 36), then canceled it.
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answered 6 years ago
"TPG had a lot of delays in the summer - they are shouting about them on every corner? No. They kept an oasis of people in Tunisia - no one really shouts about it either. Idriska threw people last year - everything is quiet." I also wrote about this, but at least there are no decisions from the government or the ministry! And it won't! They are not up to us! Elections soon, how to stay at the trough!
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answered 6 years ago
Lud_mila, TO Join up and much earlier had serious problems with tours, problems with booking some hotels for tourists and, in fact, checking into other hotels, actually cheating tourists about the hotel, still cheating tourists about air tickets, last year it was indicated on the tour that air windrose, but in fact bravo, that's why Windrose terminated the contract for air services
by airlines bravo airways,anda air, YanAir are affiliated companies
Not only Join up works with these airlines, but also Pegasus, Oasis and TPG, which is why there were delays and flight cancellations on tours from TPG, like those of Join up
And separately for TO Oasis, last year booked a tour 2 months in advance to Tunisia on April 2, TO Oasis and air Bravo, 4 days before the start of the tour, Bravo airline canceled all flights to Tunisia until April 27, then again postponed to May. TO Oasis offered to reschedule the tour without additional payment for any period from April 27 to May 31 or return the money. I chose the second option, the money was returned to the TA where I paid for the tour during the day.
by airlines bravo airways,anda air, YanAir are affiliated companies
Not only Join up works with these airlines, but also Pegasus, Oasis and TPG, which is why there were delays and flight cancellations on tours from TPG, like those of Join up
And separately for TO Oasis, last year booked a tour 2 months in advance to Tunisia on April 2, TO Oasis and air Bravo, 4 days before the start of the tour, Bravo airline canceled all flights to Tunisia until April 27, then again postponed to May. TO Oasis offered to reschedule the tour without additional payment for any period from April 27 to May 31 or return the money. I chose the second option, the money was returned to the TA where I paid for the tour during the day.
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answered 6 years ago
The following information is available on the Windrose website
Due to repeated appeals of passengers to the Airline with complaints about the sale of tickets and tours by the tour operator (Join UP) LLC "Joine AP" for non-existent flights under call signs 7W under call signs 7W "Wind Rose" ends on 08.05.2018.
Other flights of the Airline "Wind Wind" to Egypt and Turkey for passengers of the tour operator Join Up, the contractual conditions are not provided. "
Due to repeated appeals of passengers to the Airline with complaints about the sale of tickets and tours by the tour operator (Join UP) LLC "Joine AP" for non-existent flights under call signs 7W under call signs 7W "Wind Rose" ends on 08.05.2018.
Other flights of the Airline "Wind Wind" to Egypt and Turkey for passengers of the tour operator Join Up, the contractual conditions are not provided. "
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answered 6 years ago
We also took a tour from them for September back in January and I don’t give a fuck about your personal insults, I want to relax with the children, you chow? You, then, flew off, did not refuse the tour, and now at least the grass does not grow? Come on, show your "strength". I repeat once again - if I don’t like something, I’ll just take tours to another one, then all problems are solved, but you want to fly for “300 bucks” on and with Turkish, preferably 5 year olds. If you don't want delays, take a regular flight, book the hotel yourself and no problems.
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answered 6 years ago
Vika284, not only Join, but others do such fraud on air tickets. she herself got into this in May with Pegasus (we bought UIA, flew Bravo). and it's annoying. especially with my aerophobia. that Join had serious problems in the past - I know. about settling in other hotels - this is also not one Join sins, especially at the peak of the season. I myself, thank God, did not hit, but my friends got in my opinion with TPG (but I could be wrong). therefore, it is not necessary to present the replacement of the hotel as the problem of a single tour operator.
I don’t defend Join, we refused their tour, taken by advance booking, having lost money on this, since we took at the rate of 36. but, we decided not to risk it until everything was more or less settled down.
nevertheless, I want to wish TO to get out of the swamp in which he refused. Moreover, I liked Join's policy - new directions at sane prices. I also like the fact that TO purchased aircraft - not 20-30 year olds, like the same Anex, but 5-year-old ones.
I don’t defend Join, we refused their tour, taken by advance booking, having lost money on this, since we took at the rate of 36. but, we decided not to risk it until everything was more or less settled down.
nevertheless, I want to wish TO to get out of the swamp in which he refused. Moreover, I liked Join's policy - new directions at sane prices. I also like the fact that TO purchased aircraft - not 20-30 year olds, like the same Anex, but 5-year-old ones.
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answered 6 years ago
Not only Join up, but also TO Pegasus, Oasis and TPG work with these airlines, which is why there were delays and flight cancellations on TPG tours, like those of Join up
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here I am about the same. tourists from different TOs fly in the same plane, but everyone shouts only about one thing. old, don't you think?
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here I am about the same. tourists from different TOs fly in the same plane, but everyone shouts only about one thing. old, don't you think?
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answered 6 years ago
on tours "you want to fly for" 300 bucks "to good hotels with the same join up prices are about the same as other operators
tour to the hotel for 2 for 7 nights Xanadu Island Hotel 5 * in the first days of September at join up 2591$, at teztour 2681$
Royal Adam & Eve 2 for 7 nights in early September join up $1962 and teztour 2040
tour to the hotel for 2 for 7 nights Xanadu Island Hotel 5 * in the first days of September at join up 2591$, at teztour 2681$
Royal Adam & Eve 2 for 7 nights in early September join up $1962 and teztour 2040
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answered 6 years ago
Lud_mila for UIA and Windrose, you can always check on their website whether they have this charter flight or call the operators
join up to check into the wrong hotels that you booked sins not only at the peak of the season, but at different times, this problem was not only last year and years earlier.
sky up has 2 aircraft manufactured in 2001 and 2002, that's definitely not 5 years old
join up to check into the wrong hotels that you booked sins not only at the peak of the season, but at different times, this problem was not only last year and years earlier.
sky up has 2 aircraft manufactured in 2001 and 2002, that's definitely not 5 years old
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answered 6 years ago
SkyUP's fleet, which received an air operator certificate only on May 16, consists of two 2013 Boeing 737-800s. The average age of the park at the moment is 5 years. In July, the fleet, according to the company's representatives, will receive a third aircraft - a 2002 Boeing 737-700. Thus, after this replenishment, the average age of SkyUp aircraft will increase to 8.67 years.
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answered 6 years ago
https://www.avianews.com/ukraine/2018/07/04/average_fleet_ukrainian_airlines2018/
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