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Will I be able to fly Kyiv-Moscow in Ukrainian. passport without registration and military registration?
despite the fact that I will buy electronic tickets to Moscow and back for 1-2 weeks. Tickets bought in Moscow! Thanks!
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аватар alex45
In my opinion, now for a trip to Russia you need a passport, it does not have a residence permit or military registration. They will not let you in with a civil passport.
аватар ollennka
A foreign passport needs to be issued, according to the internal one, only citizens of Belarus can now.
аватар t-index
For citizens of Ukraine, entry into the territory of the Russian Federation both by internal and international passports.
аватар sent2008
From January 1, 2015, for citizens of most CIS countries that are not members of the Customs Union (Azerbaijan, Moldova, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan), entry into the Russian Federation is possible only with a passport (without a visa). The possibility of entering Russia on an internal passport remains for residents of the EAEU members: Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan entering the union. Also (due to the difficult political situation), citizens of all regions can still cross the border with an internal passport.
аватар sent2008
There were not enough signs. Also (due to the difficult political situation), citizens of all regions of Ukraine can still cross the border with an internal passport.
On June 11, parents from Shepetivka came to our friends, drove in and left with internal passports.
аватар ollennka
Hmm, I rummaged through the news of the FMS, yes, I was mistaken, for Ukraine they also left the opportunity to enter with internal passports.
аватар kabish.viktoria
Nobody answered me.)
Will I be able to travel from Kyiv to Moscow using an internal passport (Without a residence permit and military registration)?
аватар sent2008
"No one answered me.)
Will I be able to leave Kyiv for Moscow with an internal passport (Without a residence permit and military registration)?
“Also (due to the difficult political situation), citizens of all regions of Ukraine can still cross the border with an internal passport.”
“For Ukraine, they also left the opportunity to enter with internal passports.”
Aren't these the answers?
аватар alex45
We are talking about the fact that the vehicles answer from Russia, that you can ENTER them. You try to LEAVE from Ukraine on an internal passport without having a residence permit. If even traffic cops hand out subpoenas. YOU CAN GO OUT and YOU SHOULD GO OUT - these are different things.
аватар alex45
Yes, and the parents from Shepetovka could be of non-military age.
аватар prosto2000
TC is not interested in answering. But the storyteller alex45 is cool.
1. Internal passports without registration (correctly - registration) do not exist. There are passports with a violated registration period. According to Part 1 of Art. 6 of the Law of Ukraine “On freedom of movement and free choice of place of residence in Ukraine”, a citizen of Ukraine is obliged to register a place of residence within ten days after arriving at a new place of residence.
According to Article 2 of this Law: registration or its absence cannot be a condition for the exercise of the rights and freedoms of movement provided for by the Constitution, laws or international treaties of Ukraine, or be the basis for their restriction.
Draw your own conclusions. If in doubt, the border guards have a hotline.
2. If there was no court decision, then the border guards do not know anything about the relationship between the person liable for military service and the military registration and enlistment office.
3. Neither me, nor my acquaintances, nor the acquaintances of my acquaintances were handed summons by traffic cops. This is possible only by a court decision taken on the fact of a specific person evading mobilization. And they do not hand over the agenda of the military registration and enlistment office.
аватар alex45
So, a realist, sometimes look at fairy tales. The last case. In Kharkov, men corresponded in transport and handed subpoenas in a trolley bus, although everyone understands that this is illegal. there is no church, it means nothing.
And according to paragraph 1, the last decision is up to the border guard, and even the expression on your face (smart or moronic) can be the reason for the refusal to cross the State border, especially since a person wants to cross it with a naked passport without registration.
аватар alex45
I made a mistake in my previous post. It is necessary to read - the employees of the military registration and enlistment office with the help of traffic cops and the police hand over summonses.
аватар Pachok
Facial expression cannot be the reason for refusal to cross the border. Border guards have no such powers. As mentioned above, only a court decision is such a reason, and also a violation of immigration rules. Subpoena served or not served - no. We have freedom of movement.
аватар alex45
There are no powers, but there can be actions. And instead of a trip abroad, there will be disputes with the Border Service.
аватар kolyan_cat
For the storyteller Alex - from Zapooozhye, of course, it is clearly visible what is happening there in Kharkov. Especially when the verified source is OBS.
On the topic of the question, the author will calmly leave Ukraine. I travel often, only this year 2 times to Russia and 3 times to foreign countries. Age - draft. No questions, men go in crowds, on a flight to Turkey on Saturday Ave, a crowd of young men, no subpoenas are handed to anyone. You can leave safely.
The only option when they may not be released is that a summons came to the person’s hands, he signed for it (!) And then did not appear, then the Vlenkomat submits the docks to the police for a search, which transmits information to the border service. If the subpoena did not work out, then the author can safely go.
аватар alex45
If the writers guarantee that the vehicle will get to Moscow on an internal passport without registration and military age, let him go.
By the way, Kolyan, I don’t write what I heard somewhere. In Zaporozhye, and my comrades from Kharkov wrote about this, and maybe this is because in the east there are fewer and fewer people who want to give their lives for the current corrupt officials, but the facts that I wrote about are present.
Well, and Kyiv, and Lviv, there is a special article, young men go in droves to Turkey and Poland and they are not called up for service. Everything can be.
TS gave you a guarantee, go to Moscow!
аватар alex45
And, Pachok, I can say that the border service did not release my friend because the border guards had an erroneous record of a notary (not a court) that he owed the bank. A business trip was disrupted, of course, then he proved that there was a mistake, but the case was done and he did not fly to the negotiations. This is me about how, according to court decisions, they are not allowed to go beyond the cordon and how we treat laws and rules. A person proves that he is not a camel, and not to him, that he is guilty! And these are not fairy tales, but rough reality. And the farther from the capital, the more often.
But I don’t want to argue, experts (not storytellers) say that the vehicle will fly to Moscow.
аватар Pachok
I don't understand what a notary's record is. Border guards have certain lists/databases and it is not notaries who fill them out. Although... Vinsky won't be allowed into Ukraine three weeks ago, he couldn't prove the purpose of his arrival. So there are no guarantees, of course.
аватар alex45
Often banks take their debtors not through the court, but through a notary with a forced notary's record of the alienation of the debt or the application of some other action, including not releasing it abroad. This is documented and transferred to the Border Service. And here, you can make a mistake, and you will find yourself guilty without guilt, which happened to my friend, and he knew nothing about this record.
аватар prosto2000
alex45, it is better for you to recognize yourself as a storyteller than to get into the chaotic ranks of provocateurs.
My good friend lives in Kharkiv. Neither he, nor his acquaintances, nor acquaintances of his acquaintances personally faced the issuance of summonses on public transport or through GAI officers.
"Often banks conduct their debtors not through the courts, but through the notary " - this is profanity or scarecrow or provocation.
Those who have doubts, can call - "Trust Service of the State Border Guard Service of Ukraine, + 38044-527-63-63 (around the clock)".
Theoretically, a situation is possible when a notarial record is equated to a court decision. But then the loan agreement itself had to be notarized and it should have written this wording. An acquaintance of Alex45 did not know this - the contract was signed in the presence of a notary. Expropriation of property under such a scheme is possible. I haven't met him before.
Rather, the storyteller is also familiar with fairy-tale characters.
I can't think that they are so stupid that they don't understand what non-payment under a notarized loan agreement can lead to.
аватар alex45
Dear, simply, I have repeatedly tried to explain to you that there is no need to troll, if this did not happen to you, then this does not mean that this does not exist, If your good friend has not encountered this, then open your eyes and there is about it on the Internet, and our patriotic television shows.
If your friends have not encountered a situation about a ban on leaving the cordon through a notary's record, this does not mean that this does not exist. Moreover, this happened to my friend by mistake.
And your post about Russians with a smart facial expression, with tattoos, etc., who will not be able to travel to Ukraine, was this also reported to you by the Ukrainian Border Service? You propagated your nonsense on many branches here on this site, so you are a provocateur and troll and you have a corresponding reputation.
аватар nadin65
This year, my husband and I, he is 40, went to Russia and returned back with a Ukrainian passport, in the immigration card we indicated the address to whom we were going, there were questions but did not specify the type of phone, etc. Everything went smoothly, back and forth.
They took foreign passports, but they were not useful.
We heard that even minibuses and personal cars in the Kharkiv region are stopped and subpoenas are issued according to the documents they have with them.
аватар 3018886
just arrived from Moscow, traveled for 14 days - there are no problems at all for leaving and entering Russia, you only need an internal passport of Ukraine, no residence permits. there were no issues with customs and border guards at all.
аватар 3018886
In Kharkov, no one writes out any summonses and people are not stopped - all lies of provocateurs! In Belgorod, we took the train to Moscow, from Moscow to Ukraine there is a chic train with ultra-modern cars, a ticket for 1600 rubles (400 hryvnia) and home. (400 rubles) 100 UAH, went through customs almost without stopping, checked internal passports and that's it !!!
аватар rotaar
From this year, entry into Russia for citizens of Ukraine only with a passport. We came up with this, not the Ukrainians.
аватар 3018886
WHY DO PEOPLE WRITE ANY BAD AND GIVE ADVICE IF THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING?
I PERMANENTLY GO FROM UKRAINE TO RUSSIA AND BACK ... REMEMBER ONLY AN INTERNAL PASSPORT OR FOREIGN PASSPORT IS NEEDED, NO MILITARY TICKET, STATEMENTS, RECORD IS NEEDED!
WHEN DEPARTURE OR DEPARTURE FROM RUSSIA TO OTHER COUNTRIES YOU NEED A PASSPORT AND ALL!
WHEN ENTRY FROM RUSSIA TO UKRAINE, YOU NEED AN INTERNAL PASSPORT OR AN INTERNATIONAL PASSPORT (IF YOU ENTERED RUSSIA WITH IT, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM THE DOMINICANA!
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