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Is it possible for alimony workers to leave Ukraine?
Hello! My friend has such a problem, he recently wanted to go to Russia. But they didn't let him in. Explaining that, by a court decision, he cannot leave the country until 2019, because he owes UAH 20,000 for alimony. He and his wife have been divorced for 2 years, before that she did not say anything about alimony. He hears about this decision for the first time, and he did not receive a summons to the court.
He does not refuse to pay the debt for alimony, but wants to go to Russia to work. Can you tell me something can be done? Give a deferment, or is it possible to conclude a notarial agreement on the procedure for paying alimony on favorable terms for everyone? Or that he would pay this amount while working in Russia?
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аватар sent2008
I liked it: “He and his wife have been divorced for 2 years, before that she didn’t say anything about alimony.” And he himself did not know that every day, or rather several times a day, a child needs to eat, drink, wear something, put shoes on, spend money on education and various medical services, medicines and much, much more. Waited two years for the ex-wife to ask, throw herself at her feet? “He does not refuse to pay the debt for alimony,” I don’t know how it is in Ukraine, in the Russian Federation he would not have succeeded, because. Failure to pay child support is punishable by law. I understand that the answer is not on the topic of the question, but know that people do not change and this story may repeat itself, but in relation to you and your child, people need to be judged not by words, but by their actions, and your friend’s act is very bad .
Now on the topic: let your friend get a court decision in his hands and get acquainted with it, contact the bailiff service (in the Russian Federation this body is called that, in Ukraine I don’t know), get acquainted with the materials in the case, if, indeed, there is a travel ban , then without options until the issue is fully resolved.
аватар sigur62
You have to pay, but the fact that"before that she didn't say anything about alimony" (c) is bullshit.
Let him pay, and then go. We have enough normal Ukrainians to earn money, without alimony.
аватар Lu-la-la
I fully agree with sent2008 and sigur62, I’ll add on my own: in Ukraine, in the same way, criminal liability is provided for evading the payment of alimony (Article 164 of the Criminal Code), and the execution of a court decision is handled by the state executive service.
аватар TombArthur
how smart ... now, if dad is the same, then upon reaching the age of 18, his son will file a counterclaim in court, for the maintenance of himself by his son, this will already be a problem! ..
And abroad since 2019 rolls)))
аватар sent2008
TombArthur, everything is far from being as rosy as you write: evading the upbringing and education of a child is a direct basis for depriving the unfortunate dad of parental rights, and the presence of alimony debt is indisputable proof of this, but deprivation of parental rights does not exempt the parent from paying alimony , but the child, in this case, will be released, in the future, from paying child support to the disabled! parent. It was not by chance that I put an exclamation point after disabled, because. persons who have not reached retirement age, or who do not have certain disability groups, are not such, dad flies with alimony. And to travel abroad, money is needed, and apparently he is also in flight with them.
аватар TombArthur
sent2008
As I read, the question of the refusal of parenthood did not arise. therefore, if this is not the case, it is still necessary to prove whether everything is so sad for the"father ".
late payment can be properly justified.
and what he paid up to a certain point (the debt can be justified) will also be regarded as care and material support.
Not humanly, of course, but with a good lawyer, Bati has a lot of chances for a favorable outcome for him in the future.
аватар Alla__
I want to intervene. I was very impressed by a similar story. in short - after the divorce, the father transferred money to his ex-wife from hand to hand in different amounts - according to their preliminary agreement. but now the sweet ex decides to sue him for not paying child support to his son. The Court naturally does not take into account any individual transfers from hand to hand. And calculates alimony from the date of divorce. Now, every six months, the alimony payer must provide copies of receipts for money transfers.
So here's what I'm up to. you so pounced on a man that he needs to pay alimony. It is clear that they have to be paid, but you still need to know how to do it right.
Yes, even. if the child is already 18 years old, but he is studying in a higher education institution, the parent continues to pay child support until graduation.
аватар sent2008
TombArthur, the question of a father filing a lawsuit against an adult child and that he paid something to him earlier is not worth it, on the contrary, he refers to ignorance about alimony, and the debt is and continues to increase, and the child’s mother has the right to a good lawyer, so not a fact ...
Alla_, mothers are also different, first to receive money by prior arrangement, and then in court to convict of non-payment, of course, vile, but not everyone will do this. And the court awards alimony not from the moment of divorce, but only for the last three years - the statute of limitations in civil cases. And in universities you can study almost indefinitely, this does not mean that dad will pay alimony all this time, after coming of age, alimony is awarded only in case of lack of ability to work, and it is very difficult to issue a certain disability. If the plaintiff does not provide evidence that he really needs maintenance, then simply being a student will not serve as a basis for paying alimony.
I was jarred in this thread by the fact that the question is being asked by a new friend of the pope, 21 years old, as indicated in the questionnaire, why should she interfere in all this and try to resolve something?
аватар Alla__
It's certainly cool to downvote, provided that we write about the legislation of two different countries. re-read the family law of Ukraine, because the issue was territorially from Ukraine. And you answered from the position of your legislation.
аватар viktor.nikulin82
Hello! My name is Artur, I live in Donetsk, I paid alimony to my ex-wife and I have the court decision in my hands, but it is the DPR. And still I can’t leave the country, I was told that I would ask her to leave with me to the territory controlled by Ukraine and wrote a refusal in the executive service stating that she had nothing to do with me or any claims. you won’t be interested, so I’m interested in the matter, in our DPR no one will tell you how to be, what to do, please tell me, but you need to leave urgently, yes, I raise my daughter with dignity and love her very much. just like that in life we didn’t succeed right away, and my daughter is already 14 years old, I have my own family for a long time and I love my wife very much, I don’t have any children of my own, but my daughter has not been depriving me of love and has been like that for 12 years! What to do, I want everything to be right !!!
аватар antanta_plus
Get yourself a Pole's card (this is the cheapest option 1200 euros and 2-3 months), use it to leave Ukraine.
аватар Coffe.2017
You are only confusing people, you can leave with debts, alimony, loans, debts for 2018-19 only through Belarus and Kazakhstan - I work in a travel agency, even such tours appeared for "non-exit" ones. With debts from 30 tr.
There are nuances, but these are trifles, every day we take people on vacation and just from the Russian Federation
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аватар Coffe.2017
You are only confusing people, you can leave with debts, alimony, loans, debts for 2018-19 only through Belarus and Kazakhstan - I work in a travel agency, even such tours appeared for "non-exit" ones. With debts from 30 tr.
There are nuances, but these are trifles, every day we take people on vacation and just from the Russian Federation
Whatsapp viber 89673664309 I will answer questions
Unfortunately I don't follow the comments.
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