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Should I go to Crimea now?
Guys, Pts need an objective opinion! On March 9, my mother will have to go to the Crimea (Miskhor). We bought a ticket in advance, but then it started ... what to do ... we don’t even know ... The administration of the sanatorium assures us of safety! Yes, and the money cannot be returned, except to postpone the date of arrival for several weeks .... What to do, advise ...
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аватар alex45
Everything will be fine, I think! But based on the timing, if you can move the deadlines closer to summer (April not March), then try to do it.
аватар agent_borabora
Of course it's worth going) Why not?
- transport runs;
- the infrastructure works;
- people are friendly and responsive;
- the weather is just on request)
аватар TombArthur
and, roughly speaking, this village is Miskhor, and the whole mess is in large cities.
аватар Juliana2010
what nonsense! I definitely would not let my mother go!
аватар prosto2000
I don't want to scare. I'm just arguing. March 16 referendum. 17 will announce the results that are already known today. On March 18, the Federation Council accepts Crimea as part of the Russian Federation. By the end of March 18, Russian troops will begin to expel foreign troops from their Russian territory. I think it's going to be tough.
Panic will begin, mothers with children will begin to flee from the Crimea. Imagine what will happen on the roads, train stations, airports.
Now assess the likelihood of such a scenario yourself. And is it worth the lost money? This is your mom.
аватар sigur62
There will be no panic, and "mothers with children" (c) will not run anywhere. Everything will be quiet and peaceful.
In addition, my mother, after all, will not rest in a military unit, but in a sanatorium.
аватар klassnoetaxi
everything is calm because the situation is under control
аватар LogopeDasha
Oh thank you all! Mom is determined to go, even today we will call our friends in the Crimea .... Although, only God knows what will happen tomorrow ......
аватар angliavilla
Dear Dasha, now families with children living in Crimea are being evacuated. You might be lucky.
аватар angliavilla
It seems to me that this is not the case when it is better to do and regret than not to do... There is a definite danger of starting hostilities next week. And the question is not that your mother will not live at a military base, or not in a big city - as the arguments on the topic are given here .. The question is that if the slightest hostilities begin, then all entries, exits and entries will be blocked - sorties. Now you can answer your own question.
аватар prosto2000
sigur62, were there 140,000 refugees from Ukraine in Bryansk?
The Russian First Channel showed them.
http://www.1tv.ru/news/social/253245
аватар prosto2000
According to the logic of the Russian First Channel, someone has to run somewhere. Not just because they decided to protect the Russians in the Crimea. Either they will run from the Crimea, or they will run to the Crimea from neighboring regions. Otherwise it's all lies. And all the officials in the story are lying.
аватар sigur62
140,000 were.
And they were even BEFORE the Crimea announced the non-recognition of the self-appointed acting.
That is why Crimea is leaving.
аватар alex45
Nonsense! I just called a friend in Crimea. Everything is calm there. Russian troops are standing around the perimeter of the Ukrainian units, there is no shooting, no excesses, transport is working. Politicians, they are politicians, to fan rumors. When famous events took place in Kyiv, my friends living in the center of Kyiv, not on the Maidan, they said that everything is calm. And it is still calm, even though the center of Kyiv is black with soot fires!!!
So is the Crimea. All the same, in my opinion, the troops were brought in only so that the Crimea would not become like Kiev. So that the extreme lovers from the "activists" of the Maidan did not stop by in the Crimea. Ukrainian troops, which showed themselves both in the Crimea and in Kyiv (grandmothers feed them with conservation). I actually served and I can perfectly imagine how much food is in warehouses.
It's only people like prosto, who never knew the service, can shout "guard" and raise a panic. I recommend him to go as a volunteer, replace the guys who serve and served instead of him, and calmly sip cucumbers from grandmothers at the post, you see, they will bring moonshine, and not click and panic on the clave.
And I saw how the (Ukrainian) media work yesterday - the Tatars broke through the siege of Russian troops, and these are grandmothers with conservation. That's it!
аватар alex45
And there is no unequivocal danger of the outbreak of hostilities, this is nonsense. The Russians simply showed how to act and defeat the Ukrainian army without fire and shots. Demonstration performances.
аватар angliavilla
Come visit, alex45)). We will tell and show - first Kyiv, then Crimea. And there, you look, and tell us how you decided to send your loved ones to the Crimea to rest! This reminded me of an episode from my events on February 20, when I had to fly away with a child from Boryspil (in any direction where the tickets were), because from the window of the apartment they kneaded buses with help to the security forces, from which people fired back, and they gathered to blow up the gas station so as not to start a train with titushki, fierce people with bats beat cars with Donetsk numbers (and my family has exactly those), and all the other loafers have ever been offended by someone (whether they were fired, whether they did not receive a salary, etc.) under the guise took revenge in many ways .. listing too long, and it is unlikely that the local audience will be imbued.
аватар angliavilla
So the episode is forgotten in an emotional outburst... The episode is as follows: in the light of all these events, general tension, queues at the airport waiting for tickets to at least some direction - a nice woman at the ticket office says - "You if by car we would have already reached Kharkov". pause... At the entrance to Boryspil - the Kharkiv-Kyiv road, who doesn't know, a barricade of general rubbish and a checkpoint with a couple of thousand men waiting... numbers".. Aunt eventually offered to go by car 50 times, but assessing our perseverance, she said that right now her husband was driving from Kyiv to Kharkov by car and she was still worried. What is the essence of the fable? Bring down and you, so that your aunt is not so scared for her husband? That's it this aunt reminded me of alex45.
аватар angliavilla
And yes - indeed there are those who did not notice everything that was happening for various reasons. My family didn't notice.
аватар babol
My wife’s brother serves in the landing troops, in Yavoriv, ​​so when they received a package from the headquarters to go to the Crimea (as he put it, “bring down the Muscovites”, then the commanders disappeared somewhere, as a result, they are still in place and are unlikely to go anywhere ) In Zhytomyr, cadets of a military institute are being trained in the Crimea - unfired and untrained (the boys don’t know where to hide). Crimea was lucky that the Russians sent their troops there. What our new government is doing, you can look at the example of my Zhitomir (I wrote a story with photos - only something he did not appear on Turpravda)
аватар sigur62
Thanks old man! I am glad that adequate people remained on Turpravda. Hope the story comes out.
Thank God, Turpravda has not yet been obliged to remove the Russian-language version, as all ministries and departments of Ukraine have been obliged to.
аватар sigur62
It’s just that I don’t understand why the people of Kiev are screaming about our, Russian aggression, that we want to tear off Crimea. Why, not we, but the Crimeans do not want to live with you. They don't want to and won't. And our troops, most likely, will not be needed at all. Humiliated, put on their knees Berkutovtsy, burned with bottles of gasoline from the hands of crazed Bandera scum - these Berkutovtsy will tear with their teeth any Yarosh"hero ", any guardian of"territorial integrity " of Ukraine.
You no longer have Crimea, forget about it. And there is nothing terrible and tragic in this, it's just that the people of Crimea decided that they would live on their own, without you. And as part of a separate state or as part of Russia, it is he himself, the people of Crimea themselves, who will decide. Without the impostor Turchinov, put"acting president " hooting crowd from the Maidan, and without other comic personalities like him.
On the topic of the question. Crimea will be the safest place in the former Ukraine.
аватар angliavilla
Oh, dear ones! They went far and dug deep. Here is a thread with the question - is it worth it to go to the Crimea, and not why it is being annulled, who is to blame and what to do. Wrong door.
аватар babol
Yes, our new government has already missed Crimea. I’m afraid that some other parts of Ukraine may also get somewhere (Transcarpathia, for example, wants to go to Hungary terribly) And in Kyiv they are already thinking about translating the Ukrainian language into Latin (the most urgent problem now) And they have no time to think about the sowing campaign, pensions and other important problems. This is how we live.
аватар babol
Well, as for going, it’s better, of course, to abstain in the near future (what if the new Ukrainian leadership really decides to measure their strength with the Russian Federation)
аватар krimchanin
Hello. Greetings from Crimea :) Now it is quiet and calm in Crimea, no one knows what will happen after the referendum. In Miskhor, of course, there will be no troubles, they can be in large cities. Those. there may be a problem leaving the peninsula, although this is unlikely. Considering that the majority of Crimeans will vote for autonomy within Russia, the Russian troops will not be withdrawn and therefore there will be order and calmness. Frantic nationalists with Molotov cocktails will not be able to break through here. We are not against Ukraine, but we want to live peacefully at home, we don’t want what happened in Kiev. We don’t need this. Not everyone wants to go to Russia, I don’t want to go there, but in the current situation we have no other choice.
аватар prosto2000
Well, let's believe sigur62. If there were refugees in Bryansk, they will be in Crimea. Someone will flee from the Crimea. And someone will flee to the Russian Crimea from neighboring Ukrainian regions. I would not send my mother to the Crimea for the referendum period. To see refugees in their old age. No.
аватар prosto2000
And if you don’t believe, but think a little, and then look into the Internet, then you can again find confirmation of the zombification of the Sigurs.
http://www.epochtimes.ru/content/view/84743/2/
аватар angliavilla
sigur62 is a direct victim of Russian propaganda of Goebbels traditions. It is impossible to dissuade a delusional patient in any case. This is an unshakable rule of psychiatry. Since the one who tries to dissuade the patient, that is, does not believe in the plot of his delirium, quickly becomes an enemy for him. An enemy for him and those who are induced by his delirium.
аватар prosto2000
Regarding the phrase relayed by Sigur, "they were obliged to remove the Russian-language version, as all the ministries and departments of Ukraine were obliged to."
Some kind of zombie. Look at the official website of the President of Ukraine and click on the "rus" button.
http://president.gov.ua/
That is why any thinking person understands perfectly well what is happening in Crimea. Russia can annex Crimea. But how will Crimea then live with the fact that more than half of the inhabitants of Crimea do not want this?
Take an interest in how their demand for autonomy and further accession to the Third Reich ended for the Sudeten Germans. It ended in tragedy - about 3.5 million Germans were expelled from Czechoslovakia after the war. All this was accompanied by numerous civilian casualties, "death marches", etc. (quote from Wikipedia).
аватар hatinka
Crimean, and no one was going to Crimea at all (except in the summer at sea), except for the Russian military. Everything that was in Kyiv of the Crimea concerned no more than the Chernihiv region or Rivne region there. The military of another country was the first to come to Crimea, and that's all. Why go to you with Molotovs? Do you really not understand why all this was in Kyiv. By the way, there was nothing so terrible from the Maidanites in Kyiv. It was from a visiting titush, from an imported so-called. Anti-Maidan, from the police, from the golden eagle. From the maneuvers of that bandit power. As it dared, so especially and there are no special problems. I’m more interested in Crimea, but are you sure in Crimea how you will have to re-register your houses, dachas, gardens, apartments? What do you think, if you do not have a summer cottage or a house by the sea, then you can issue it without any problems? And if the acts are old or there is stupid membership in a garden partnership (in fact, even now it is not very legally binding). I don't believe this moment will go well. There is a high probability that many Crimeans will be left without land and houses, especially those who do not have ideal title documents. I read about this problem in other similar zones - Ossetia, Abkhazia. Well, not very optimistic. Keep up to date
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