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what to do, no documents?
Hello! Please answer me, the documents are lost, I need to go home to Ukraine, what should I do, can I cross the border without documents? Thank you!
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аватар jabetta
Are you currently in Russia or where?
аватар alex45
Well, how do you imagine crossing the border without documents? You need to report to the police about the loss of documents or to the nearest consulate of Ukraine. You are now an illegal immigrant with all the troubles inherent in them!
аватар Pachok
Police - spavka, konsultsvo - a temporary piece of paper. Nothing else.
аватар Stella73
I don’t know about the former Soviet Union, the order of departure from Europe is as follows:
(I assume that you do not have a residence permit)
-If the passport is stolen, write a statement to the police, take all the documents that you have, go to the consulate,
write a statement explaining what happened to your passport.
A photocopy of the passport, internal passport, driver's license will come from the documents, if this is not there, then bring what you have. You will be given a temporary document to cross the border.
If there is nothing at all, then just write an application to the consulate, but in this case it will take a long time, as they will make a request to Ukraine to establish your identity.
If there are no documents with you, but they are in Ukraine,
ask to send by mail, it will still be faster than with a request without documents at all.
аватар orbittours.ru
You must definitely go to the consulate and report that the documents are lost, you will be given a special certificate on which you can return home and restore the documents.
аватар alex45
It remains only to find it and get there! Russia is big, the consulate is far away, and troubles can be nearby. To the police with a statement for a start!
аватар bogun-1983
Thank you very much, this is all clear, first the police, then the consulate, but maybe someone was driving like that, there is no time to do all this, you need to wait a month for a certificate, but you need to go urgently, how interesting it is to skip customs, can someone tell me in such a situation?
аватар orbittours.ru
you won’t pass without a passport (or certificate), well, nothing)))))
аватар alex45
Crawling across the border in the Chernihiv region, through swamps and forests! I'm joking, even if it's not a joke to you. Go give up so that it doesn't get worse!
Customs may even let you in if you get into someone's luggage, but the border guards are unlikely.
аватар Stella73
I take it you are in Russia? Then 4 checks - Russian customs and border guards, then Ukrainian border guards and customs. Documents to check the case of border guards, and since 2 sides, Russian and Ukrainian, they are unlikely to take risks (if there was one, one could try to negotiate)
Illegal option: find someone your age, who looks a little like you, and "rent" a passport. In the Russian internal, as well as in the Ukrainian,
they don’t put entry-exit stamps, so it’s easy with this (yes, they put it in a foreign country, so it won’t go abroad). You will return it back by registered mail.
Illegal option 2: go to the train conductor, explain the situation. The train should be naturally direct from Russia to Ukraine. The conductor is money-loving, it’s good if he has tattoos on his hands, at least he won’t be surprised at your request, even if he refuses.
You will be given a form, a document will be picked up, and you will go "like a guide".
Both options cost money, of course.
In principle, the border can be crossed through the forest, but I would not - because you need to know where, and the route.
All the same, the most real thing is to go to the consulate - they don’t bite, is there really no copy of the passport at least; and plus for example rights.
аватар Stella73
Perhaps there are copies at home, documents - let them scan, send by e-mail, print and it will be better than nothing at all.
аватар jabetta
My opinion - it is necessary in such cases to go only legal / legal way! Otherwise, you can find yourself on the ass of adventure, moreover, with far-reaching consequences.
Although, it seems that everyone here is writing into the void - the TS is missing, or has solved its problems)
аватар Stella73
TS came by today.
And the circumstances are different - maybe a person needs to go so urgently that "it's better yesterday"
And yes, I agree, the best way is legally.
And it’s still necessary to write a statement about the loss of a passport - otherwise you never know, they issue loans, or some kind of fraud - then prove that it’s not a camel.
аватар jabetta
And yes, sorry, I saw that the TC came in.
аватар alex45
Stella! Now the conductors are very insured! My son needed some kind of electronic device for a Ford Mondeo from Leningrad, a friend with the conductors could not convey, they refused, and you say a person.
My option is a statement to the police, and to the consulate myself I tearfully beg for help, if it is so urgent. And illegally, is such a risk really necessary!
аватар Lyudmila-s-p1
We constantly cross the Russian-Ukrainian border, so I speak with full responsibility: the documents are checked very strictly and the border guards are sure to punch through all the passports on the computer. Photos are also compared very carefully. Do not risk driving on someone else's documents or without documents at all. Otherwise, you will end up on the "black list" of violators and become "not allowed to travel abroad" and in the future you will never be allowed to cross the border. And the guides themselves are afraid of the border guards and will not go to such frauds.
аватар mel0510
Stella73, would you give someone who looks like you your passport "for hire"? I would not, even for a decent money. Yes, and the conductors will not contact. Who knows what kind of undocumented
аватар jabetta
I don’t understand at all how a conductor can solve the problem of a train through a cordon without documents. Man what, a bag of potatoes? And at the border, the passports of the conductors themselves are also checked - they are the same citizens of their own or another country for the border guards.
аватар Stella73
Previously, the conductors were not checked; if a person takes it, then he has acquaintances among the border guards - whoever travels for a long time knows everyone, the same people work there, only the shifts change.
A friend traveled with a friend's passport, a couple of years ago, Germany - Russia - Germany. He was so urgent that he risked the plane - nothing, everything passed.
People, I'm not calling on anyone to break the laws - BUT -
circumstances are different, and through the consulate, if there are no documents - at least stand on your ears, at least on your knees, at least offer money - it won’t be fast, under the most successful combination of circumstances - three weeks, and usually people wait several months (we have at least measure).
You can also drive up to the border in the area of ​​​​a small village, and try to negotiate with the border guards there, or with the local population, so that they would be led through secret paths.
This is the most risky in my opinion, also, of course, it will not be free.
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I would give my passport to someone I trust, and I know that a reliable person is worth a dime. I would give it to a friend for free.
аватар Pachok
Always check with conductors!!! Ever since the border between our states appeared.
аватар orbittours.ru
All the same, it is better to go the legal way, because documents are thoroughly compared at the border.
аватар vasyok
Hello. I ask you for advice? I am in Crimea. I want to go to live in Ukraine with my husband! I have a Russian Crimean passport, but I don’t have a Ukrainian one and there’s not even a Ukrainian certificate, how can I get through the Ukrainian border? Only I can’t go to the consul, I say right away! Maybe there are other options who faced this please tell me I will be very grateful thanks!
аватар alex45
I understand that you have a Russian passport, but you are from Crimea. Or are Crimean passports somehow different? I have not heard about the blockade of Crimea, so that Ukraine does not let people from Crimea in.
If the Russians do not interfere with the passage, then at the Ukrainian border say that you are going to live with your husband, maybe this should be noted on the immigration card. You should be let in.
You can, as an option. If there are problems with the Russians. Leave for the Kuban, get to the Ukrainian border from Kharkov, and then through Ukraine, as it were, to the Crimea. But stay in Ukraine.
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аватар agurzan64
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