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Looking for people who want to share their sad experience on vacation!
If your vacation has turned into a nightmare and you want to achieve justice, or at least warn others about such dangerous places, respond!!! Perhaps your story will be shown in a holiday program. Write down your coordinates. I AM WAITING!
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аватар Anetka-gan
and how about writing about a GOOD vacation? or are you only interested in dirt and squabbles??
аватар Alfini
Zhurna(shl)yuhi detected!
аватар Biker_Oksana
Victims are offered HELP in order to achieve justice - and immediately such conclusions are more beautiful than one another. Or maybe the assessment of the work of a journalist should be given on the basis of ready-made material - to act like adults, and not scatter unfair conclusions of the DO?
аватар sigur62
Oksana, absolutely fair clarification. Anyutka, a good rest is, in other words, not a bad rest. So true stories about bad holidays are also needed in order to find a GOOD holiday in every sense by the method of elimination. Which is what I wish you.
аватар Anetka-gan
have fun! help should be offered legally, not in the media. more articles, fewer articles, it won't change anything!
with each subject of tourism that spoiled the rest, you need to deal with the relevant authorities, with the exclusion of licenses and prosecution.
otherwise it will be another story for Shilova's books. "market chatter"
аватар Pachok
Journalists are only interested in the rating of their programs (newspapers, magazines). Exclusively. The more "terrifying" and vile the details are, the better. At the same time, everything is distorted beyond recognition, you will feel like a complete fool. I know what I'm talking about, several times I came across this fraternity for professional reasons. My article was shredded in such a way that I myself became scared - in finished form it looked like it was written by an illiterate idiot. Since then, I don’t believe a single journalistic word until I compare it with the original source.
аватар Katyyy
I try not to miss Ukrainian and Russian horror stories such as "Stop-10" or "Habitat". I noticed such a moment - if the habitat shows a "horror movie", then at least it tells how to avoid a horror movie, but the Ukrainians do not leave such a chance :)) Everything is bad with us, without options and in general we will all die !!!
аватар Anetka-gan
Pachok is similar. I was asked to write an article, I wrote it. what they made of it caused SHOCK!
аватар Biker_Oksana
Anetka-gan, maybe you just did not cope with the task, and the article had to be redone?
аватар Biker_Oksana
Anetka-gan:
help should be offered legal +1
not in the media. more articles, fewer articles, this will not change anything! - You probably had no luck with the media, there are many examples with a positive result of the intervention of journalists
with each subject of tourism, which spoiled the rest, it is necessary to deal with the relevant authorities, with the exclusion of licenses and prosecution. +1
otherwise it will be another story for Shilova's books. "bazaar chatter" -100
How do you manage to scatter similar phrases so easily? O_o (((Firstly, it’s incorrect to evaluate the work of an entire industry GLOBALLY like this. What does "trap ", Anetka, and even a bazaar one mean? warn each other-- also chatter? Moreover, on the forum about"bad guys " from the tourist industry learns fewer people than from the media (and ALL THE MORE, FROM TV SHOW IN PRIME TIME). , it is unlikely that tourists will go to him in single file for a ticket.
аватар Biker_Oksana
At least in the same branch about Boryspil in the hop-stop style, how many times did they moan about the most unpleasant situations - what, just to cry? Everyone is looking for ways to solve the problem. Well, the man suggested - and what? Reaction as inadmissible phrases. Well, yes, Ukrainians just shout, lament, and how to try to move something, at least in his case, the gut is small ...
to Margoshuk: dear colleague, go to the mentioned branch about Boryspil. and spoil in the cube. But it is better to write to the victims in person - otherwise you will provoke statements like "market chatter". The full does not understand the hungry ...
аватар Alfini
"Firstly, it is incorrect to GLOBALLY evaluate the work of an entire industry like this"
You used the correct word - "industry" - the production of a product for profit. Not for the sake of justice, not for the sake of objective information, but for the sake of profit! Everything. The profession of "journalist" in our country does not cause an ounce of respect. "Dontsovshchina" and "Shilovshchina" are at least honestly called fiction and cheer up some sections of the female population, although they hopelessly spoil the taste. And modern Ukrainian "journalism" kills in a normal person in general the belief that the truth really exists.
"Everyone is looking for ways to solve the problem", "try to move something"
This is not for journalists. This is for the prosecutor.
аватар Biker_Oksana
Journalists are only interested in the rating of their programs (newspapers, magazines).
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Pachok, I'll reveal a terrible secret: moreover, they are primarily interested in the salary, and not the well-being of millions of citizens :)) But if you find mutual interest, and the tourist - use the moment to solve problems - why not?
аватар Biker_Oksana
Alfini, you have good advice, I read them. But you spoil your own authority with the statements "Journa (sh) yuhi detected." I am a journalist, and such phrases are a direct insult. Can you apologize?
аватар Alfini
Biker_Oksana, please accept my personal apologies, I also read you and not without pleasure.
ZY My general opinion about journalists remains unchanged, my authority on the forum does not bother me :)
аватар Biker_Oksana
Thanks. I really felt very uncomfortable.
аватар Margoshuk
Thanks to those who supported!!! Once again I am convinced that some people are not quite educated. The work of a journalist does NOT include the duties of a lawyer, and free of charge. Our task is to highlight the problem and get a clear answer from the lips of officials. And, accordingly, to show how our officials work in the sweat of their brows, etc.
аватар Anetka-gan
Margoshuk why show what is already visible? )))
a clear answer from the lips of officials will not help the victims. words, in politics, it is a method of covering up inaction.
Biker_Oksana you are protecting a colleague here. you have a personal interest, you will prove your point of view here in any case :) there have already been stories about Boryspil, both on TV, and in the press, and even in court. nothing has changed, as you can see!
аватар Pachok
"Pachok, I'll reveal a terrible secret: moreover, they are primarily interested in the salary, and not the well-being of millions of citizens :)) But if you find mutual interest, and the tourist - use the moment to solve problems - why not?"
This is all clear - the salary of a journalist is just the result of rating :) Mutual interest is rare, practically unattainable. On the one hand, the interests of the "public" are to have reliable objective information (if we are not talking about entertainment events), on the other hand, the interests of a journalist are to earn money for paid material (which is prepared as the customer said) or to inflate the rating by any means for the sake of again dough. Sensations and horror stories are the best method, you know it as well as I do.
A tourist will not solve his problems by contacting journalists. The tourist will solve his problems by going to court :)
аватар Anetka-gan
by the way, I did an excellent job with the task :) do not doubt me, the article went to press.
аватар Pachok
"Once again I am convinced that some people are not quite educated. The work of a journalist does NOT include the duties of a lawyer, and free of charge."
Once again I am convinced that some journalists do not quite understand that not all people are their audience. It is easy to juggle words and distort meaning when Aunt Glasha, brought up by TV series and Malakhov+, is at the screen. A normal person will see that no one has written a word about the fact that a journalist is obliged to be a lawyer. On the contrary, it was said: fuck the media, go to the prosecutor's office.
аватар Anetka-gan
Pachok they see what they want to see! :)
аватар IaroslaviSHna
Anetka-gan, the topic, how to put it mildly ... If you don't mind, look at the messages and reviews of people. Maybe someone on camera will tell about their terrible vacation.
аватар Biker_Oksana
Anetka-gan, I'd rather read your travel tips.
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