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Return from vacation: PCR at the airport or self-isolation?
With the delivery of the PCR test upon arrival at the airport, everything is clear: I received a negative result - I went home.
Interested in isolation. You install the "Vdoma" application and you can safely go home and, for example, take a test upon arrival? Or, for example, you can delete the application on exiting the terminal and the problem will disappear altogether? How is this scheme regulated by the state?
Please share your real experience if you refused the test on arrival.
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аватар Kasja23
/Install the application "Vdoma" and you can safely go home and, for example, pass the test upon arrival?/
The test can be taken within a day.
We spent a week in self-isolation and then one of our colleagues decided to break the self-isolation.
Passed the test today. The result will be at night. Let's see if they take her off Dee.
/ Or, for example, you can delete the application on the exit from the terminal and the problem will disappear altogether? How is this scheme regulated by the state?/
Unable to delete. Even if you "accidentally" delete it, Dia doesn't go anywhere. Furthermore,
removed last year after self-isolation, it is stored somewhere in the depths
state and at the first memory of it joyfully jumps out of the phone.
(The phone number has changed, the number remains the same)
аватар BlackDef
Kasja23, there are many ways to deceive the application, but the question is different: who and how checks the conditions for compliance with self-isolation, if, for example, the employer does not put forward such requirements? I'm not talking about the moral and ethical side of the issue, when, in a good way, you need to follow the rules and make a PRP, but about the administrative initiatives of the Cabinet of Ministers and regulations for compliance with the rules by tourists.
аватар Elenka08
Interestingly, people with a confirmed diagnosis or without a diagnosis, but with a 99% probability of having covid, are *treated* at home, without any Vdom application and isolation. Where is the logic???
аватар antonua
Can be removed without consequences after leaving the airport;)
Another option is "the application is not installed / push-button telephone". The border guards will ask you to write a statement that you are obliged to pass the test and after that they will let you through.
аватар Kasja23
I will add - the test can be taken at any time within two weeks.
The laboratory itself submits the results to the Action and the next day you are removed from self-isolation. -
A colleague received a negative test in Dili and received a message the next day
from Action -
- The term of self-isolation or observation has expired
аватар Kasja23
Who checks for self-insulation? Police.
When my Action didn't work properly, Support sent me a sheet with links
to the website of the National Police of Ukraine, where you need to choose your city, find a territorial one
police station and there report that you are undergoing self-isolation and
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the police must record information and monitor it through calls and visits.
Last year we self-isolated a large company of 6 people
and we had all sorts of adventures. In particular, when the Action failed,
and it was not possible to send a photo, three of our colleagues were called and the police came.
It was the first night. With flashers under the window.
So it is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post.
The action of the photo goes from 9 am to 9 pm, according to the new program, you can leave by informing the program,
for 2 hours a day for a distance of 1 km.
And the police prefer to report in the middle of the night, hello, and then you will not turn away from the fine.
аватар ser_____Witness77
and that you can simply delete the program on exiting the airport and there will be no consequences)?
аватар moy_contakt
I started reading different advice and was horrified. Delete, etc.... Everything I write is from personal experience gained in July, August 2020 upon arrival from the red zone. Arriving from the red zone, all passengers let me pass through another corridor, where the military slows down everyone before passport control and check the installation of "dii at home". Only by showing the phone with the installed program admission to passport control. Next, you are asked for data, including your isolation address, and all this is recorded and your phone is checked again. Those who said that there was no phone or that it was a push-button phone were taken aside, and judging by the fact that we met them after receiving the suitcases, the phones were found. It seems that they were told that they were being taken to paid isolation under escort and given docks to fill. Further, since our family is not from Kyiv, then 48 hours of freedom (until you reach your place of residence and stop there). During this period, you take an analysis in a laboratory that removes from diy! It is important! Not all laboratories do this.
аватар moy_contakt
I continue. The laboratory sends your result to the registry and after updating the program (every hour I think) the program removes you from the diy. You will receive a message in the application that your self-isolation is completed and you can delete the application. If the result is positive or you decide to stay in self-isolation, then the program usually sends a request to confirm your location with a photo from different angles 3 times a day. And here is my own instruction, since the program is buggy (la), if anyone needs it, I’ll tell you how I spent time in this self-isolation. Her husband was removed from her, because PCR was negative
аватар moy_contakt
On the account to remove at the exit from the airport without confirmation of a negative PCR. Upon arrival, a pleasant conversation will await you (friends have been fined) for non-compliance with the self-isolation regime. We had that the patrol came home. Although it is stated that you have the right to go to a store / pharmacy, but the program is tied to your home router as to the point of your stay, and as soon as your geolocation changes, the signal stops getting from the router and the phone switches, for example, to the mobile Internet, then immediately a signal is received about a violation of self-isolation and you and the nearest police station and the squad comes to visit you. Upon arrival, they take a picture of you, clarify what caused the violation and decide whether you should pay a fine or not (here you will run into someone). So don't underestimate the situation. Moreover, everything can be done normally without violating anything.
аватар moy_contakt
Now the tests are done quickly, so you have 48 hours to do the test and you will be removed from the diy. During these 48 hours, no one is monitoring your location (the program constantly signals you that you need to get out as soon as possible, but you don’t pay attention to it). The husband, upon arrival, freely decided his affairs at work until he got a negative PCR result. Therefore, having passed the analysis at the airport, you will not even feel this self-isolation if you do everything right.
аватар antonua
At the airport, now the address is not entered, only the full name, foreign number and phone number. The address is entered by you personally through geolocation when you arrive home (after 24 hours from activation)
аватар Kasja23
The address at the airport is entered. When installing Dia. without it, they will not be allowed to go to passport control
аватар antonua
"The address at the airport is entered. When installing Dia. Without this, they are not allowed to pass through passport control"
A week ago, and also the day before yesterday, nothing was entered, the address was needed in the old versions of Vdoma (when it was still called Persons of Vdoma), now there is no such thing.
аватар moy_contakt
What and how is being introduced/not being introduced is not important. The important thing is that upon arrival there is an opportunity to immediately take an analysis at the airport and you will be removed from the diabetic before the expiration of 48 hours, those before restrictions on movement, well, with a negative PCR.
аватар antonua
Only not 48, but 24 hours from the moment of activation at the airport.
аватар moy_contakt
48 hours are given to confirm the place of self-isolation, that's for sure. My relatives just arrived, they passed the tests upon arrival home, so I confirm the geolocation almost back to back after 48 hours, the test will only be ready today.
аватар antonua
It's strange, but the supplement and the standard speaks exactly about 24.
аватар Vika284
about 24 hours and 48 hours
Last weekend, a company of our close friends from Sharm was returning, all to Boryspil airport. One family of them lives in the Zhytomyr region, and another family from Kyiv.
Those who are from Kyiv have 24 hours to check-in at an address in Kyiv, and families from the Zhytomyr region have 48 hours to check-in at an address in the Zhytomyr region
Everyone passed the tests immediately at the airport, after 7 hours the tests were ready and they were free
аватар Vika284
If you permanently reside in Kharkiv, Lviv, Odessa, Dnipro and other beautiful cities of Ukraine, but your tour is where the airports of the city of Kiev, then give a check-in period of 48 hours
аватар moy_contakt
Relatives from Kharkov, flew through Borispol. And they have exactly 48 hours. 24 hours to get there may simply not be enough, and if you also take tests not in Borispol, but at home ....
аватар nataha33
Please tell me, if I pass a PCR test upon arrival in Boryspil at the airport, is it possible that the withdrawal from self-isolation will occur even before my confirmation of the geolocation at home (up to 24 hours)? Or do you have to check in at home first?
аватар ser_____Witness77
what is BRED? acquaintances when returning from Sharm passed the test)) - Sharm in particular and Egypt in general in the green zone for COVID ... what test did they allegedly pass))? for what ? or is it again the haters of our vyalikih business projects for picking people's noses (medical laboratories)? ... from the same got these and other parasites :(
аватар antonua
Since March 24, all countries are formally "red"
аватар moy_contakt
nataha33 now tests are done quickly, so yes, everything can happen that you will be removed from the diy even before check-in.
аватар ser_____Witness77
"Since March 24, all countries are formally "red"" - is there a proof of this assumption? ... and then here mostly parasites from medical laboratories and their six fakes are throwing fakes ... :(
аватар BlackDef
pruff there is this assumption? - Decree of the Cabinet of Ministers of March 23 (sort of)
аватар ser_____Witness77
THERE IS NOTHING in this decree about Ukraine's personal unilateral assessment of the red zones of the territories of other SOVEREIGN states)) The Red or Green zone is established ONLY by the state itself.
Egypt believes that they have a Green Zone ... and Shmygal (and other dumbass) at least settle down (c) they will NOT count in any other way;)
https://news.dtkt.ua/society/community/68585
аватар moy_contakt
Now the point is not which zone you are returning from, but in any case, either a test or self-isolation and no options.
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