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Trip to Kyiv, is it safe?
Is it safe now for a Russian person (Finnish citizenship, I live in the Czech Republic) to go to Kyiv?
It is very necessary, but relatives are categorically against it.
What arguments do they give?
Please help, it's very important
It is very necessary, but relatives are categorically against it.
What arguments do they give?
Please help, it's very important
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What kind of Russian are you - now you are a Finn. Come, no problem. I wonder what your relatives are afraid of?
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answered 7 years ago
Welcome to Kyiv!)) Well, what nonsense? Don't listen to anyone. Watch TV less)) Just come and see everything with your own eyes. No one in Kyiv will offend you. A beautiful city!
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answered 7 years ago
Probably, the next crucified boys, bullfinches, etc. ))) By the way, in Finland, children are taken away from Russian parents for every little thing, for example, if you spank on the pope. So it's dangerous to go there with children)))
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answered 7 years ago
Well, I look at least like Russian, and the name Andrey, not really Finnish))
Relatives argue that Ukraine is waging war against Russia, and "like me."
There is an experience when an acquaintance (although he is from the Crimea, but with a Ukrainian passport) was taken away by the SBU, and then it was very problematic to get a person.
I myself perfectly understand that the situation in the UA is not rosy now, but there should not be any problems, especially with euro documents.
But I need some arguments that could change the opinion of my relatives ... So far, no arguments have been accepted by them
Relatives argue that Ukraine is waging war against Russia, and "like me."
There is an experience when an acquaintance (although he is from the Crimea, but with a Ukrainian passport) was taken away by the SBU, and then it was very problematic to get a person.
I myself perfectly understand that the situation in the UA is not rosy now, but there should not be any problems, especially with euro documents.
But I need some arguments that could change the opinion of my relatives ... So far, no arguments have been accepted by them
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answered 7 years ago
"The relatives argue that Ukraine is waging war against Russia" - sorry, but your relatives are stupid ... e. We did not annex Crimea and did not invade someone else's territory
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answered 7 years ago
Turprada is not a political forum, it is better to ask your question elsewhere.
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answered 7 years ago
Let's please without insults and deepening into politics.
The only question is how to convince my family that I will be safe and that nothing will happen to me.
The only question is how to convince my family that I will be safe and that nothing will happen to me.
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answered 7 years ago
Do you think outwardly Russians are very different from Belarusians, Ukrainians or Baltic people living in other countries?
Let's start with the fact that officially, I repeat OFFICIALLY, there is no war ... this is the first argument.
The situation now in Russia is not rosy ... and in many other European countries. In the states, they also shoot and explode bombs, not to mention Paris and others. This is the second argument, if you are so dependent on TV and your relatives, then of course stay at home
Let's start with the fact that officially, I repeat OFFICIALLY, there is no war ... this is the first argument.
The situation now in Russia is not rosy ... and in many other European countries. In the states, they also shoot and explode bombs, not to mention Paris and others. This is the second argument, if you are so dependent on TV and your relatives, then of course stay at home
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answered 7 years ago
Sorry, but no one can give 100% security guarantees anywhere and to anyone. After all, assassination attempts are also made on presidents.
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answered 7 years ago
In the "terrible" for Russians "Bandera" Lvov, only on New Year's Eve there were 50 thousand tourists. No less for Christmas. Everyone is alive, healthy, drunk, fed :)
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answered 7 years ago
Guys, please don't get me wrong. I have more than good attitude towards adequate Ukrainians and adequate Russians. And I have a Ukrainian girl ..AllOverTheWorld, thank you, good argument
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answered 7 years ago
not long ago they showed on TV how Russians and other citizens underwent biometrics in Boryspil, everything is quiet, calm, and even no one was indignant ....
no one is safe from force majeure situations ... even in Monaco (many will remember that it was there a couple of years ago).
And you, Finn Andrei, who came to visit his girlfriend, in the capital of the country that is waging the ATO or whatever it is now ORDLO, 700 km from Kyiv .....
Let's even think like your relatives ... they kind of think that we are supposedly waging war with them .... then it’s dangerous for you and Russia to go to Russia ... and it’s dangerous in the Czech Republic too, otherwise it’s suddenly on We will attack the Czech Republic .... what is that Czech Republic ....;)
no one is safe from force majeure situations ... even in Monaco (many will remember that it was there a couple of years ago).
And you, Finn Andrei, who came to visit his girlfriend, in the capital of the country that is waging the ATO or whatever it is now ORDLO, 700 km from Kyiv .....
Let's even think like your relatives ... they kind of think that we are supposedly waging war with them .... then it’s dangerous for you and Russia to go to Russia ... and it’s dangerous in the Czech Republic too, otherwise it’s suddenly on We will attack the Czech Republic .... what is that Czech Republic ....;)
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answered 7 years ago
The fear of relatives is understandable and impresses. that the person asked a public question.
So I will try to answer.
1. Regarding the security guarantee. There are no additional threats to people of other nationalities, citizenship, appearance, name language does not exist and did not exist. My nephew with Russian citizenship lives quietly and works here. His mother, my sister, came to New Year's Eve. Haven't been here for five years. She was very tense, although she constantly communicates via Skype with us. As soon as I got out at the station, I immediately calmed down - everything was as usual. Although the zombie is still the same.
2. Threats are standard, as everywhere.
3. If there was something not standard, then visa-free travel would not be given and would be closed at the first symptoms of threats. Europe is very sensitive to this.
4. Offices of all European companies and representative offices operate as usual.
So I will try to answer.
1. Regarding the security guarantee. There are no additional threats to people of other nationalities, citizenship, appearance, name language does not exist and did not exist. My nephew with Russian citizenship lives quietly and works here. His mother, my sister, came to New Year's Eve. Haven't been here for five years. She was very tense, although she constantly communicates via Skype with us. As soon as I got out at the station, I immediately calmed down - everything was as usual. Although the zombie is still the same.
2. Threats are standard, as everywhere.
3. If there was something not standard, then visa-free travel would not be given and would be closed at the first symptoms of threats. Europe is very sensitive to this.
4. Offices of all European companies and representative offices operate as usual.
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answered 7 years ago
I understand this very well)) But it has not yet been possible to convey to relatives
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answered 7 years ago
Are you a minor?) Or do you depend financially on your relatives?) Or, God forbid, have you already been chained to a battery?))
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answered 7 years ago
or maybe they just don’t like your girlfriend? ..... so they decided to threaten you with a “war” .... by the way, one more argument))))) they specially scare you with a war so as not to let you go to your beloved)
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answered 7 years ago
From the question, especially its design, I really yelled.
It is perfectly safe for a Russian Person with Finnish Citizenship Living in the Czech Republic to travel to Ukraine.
I would be careful, only, to wear T-shirts with the inscriptions "We are Russians, where we are, there is Russia", with images of Putin and hashtags Crimeanash.
In short, behave like a Man, not like a Russian - and everything will be fine and safe.
Kindly please!
It is perfectly safe for a Russian Person with Finnish Citizenship Living in the Czech Republic to travel to Ukraine.
I would be careful, only, to wear T-shirts with the inscriptions "We are Russians, where we are, there is Russia", with images of Putin and hashtags Crimeanash.
In short, behave like a Man, not like a Russian - and everything will be fine and safe.
Kindly please!
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answered 7 years ago
You know, I read the author's answers about Ukraine's war against Russia and the atrocities of the SBU, and changed my mind.
In no case do not go to Ukraine.
No need.
Let's be happy!
In no case do not go to Ukraine.
No need.
Let's be happy!
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answered 7 years ago
Yes, it's still a year until adulthood.
We are no longer financially dependent.
I live alone, study at the university, work.
There is experience in traveling, there is nothing to worry about :)
With languages, too, everything is in order .. English, Finn, Rus, German and Swedish are poorly known, and I’m still starting to learn Czech .. Unfortunately, I only know a few words in Ukrainian)
We are no longer financially dependent.
I live alone, study at the university, work.
There is experience in traveling, there is nothing to worry about :)
With languages, too, everything is in order .. English, Finn, Rus, German and Swedish are poorly known, and I’m still starting to learn Czech .. Unfortunately, I only know a few words in Ukrainian)
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answered 7 years ago
Dear Lena, I ask you to read in full what I wrote.
These are the words of my family, not mine.
"I have more than good attitude towards adequate Ukrainians and adequate Russians. And I have a Ukrainian girl .."
All I'm trying to do is reassure them that nothing out of the ordinary is going to happen.
These are the words of my family, not mine.
"I have more than good attitude towards adequate Ukrainians and adequate Russians. And I have a Ukrainian girl .."
All I'm trying to do is reassure them that nothing out of the ordinary is going to happen.
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answered 7 years ago
Then behave like a young man-maximalist .....
so tell your relatives ... "you interfere with our love, specifically talk about the war, so that I don't go";)
By the way, my niece graduated from a university in Poland and lives safely there, and when she was in her third year ... (just at the height of the conflict) she decided to bring her MCH to meet her family ... how he was afraid and scared of everything) we often joked about him about this) but after the trip, his opinion about Ukraine changed dramatically....
so tell your relatives ... "you interfere with our love, specifically talk about the war, so that I don't go";)
By the way, my niece graduated from a university in Poland and lives safely there, and when she was in her third year ... (just at the height of the conflict) she decided to bring her MCH to meet her family ... how he was afraid and scared of everything) we often joked about him about this) but after the trip, his opinion about Ukraine changed dramatically....
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answered 7 years ago
If relatives think like 100% cotton wool (sorry), then you can’t convince them, because. this is at the level of emotions of attitude, logic is powerless here.
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answered 7 years ago
Even if they really want it.. xs
Of course, I would take them there, but you yourself understand))
Of course, I would take them there, but you yourself understand))
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answered 7 years ago
Invited to a restaurant..
I'll try to talk to them again in a few hours.
I'll try to talk to them again in a few hours.
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answered 7 years ago
The only question is how to convince my family that I will be safe.
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Those bitten by the TV can only be cured by a change in internal politics .. well, or a psychotherapist. Your arguments, and even more so our arguments, are completely useless and will only increase discontent. The only indisputable fact will be a successful trip to Kyiv, but only for you. Relatives will still be sure that the Jews of Bandera have processed you. Such is the selyavi for the nearest foreseeable undeniable rule
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Those bitten by the TV can only be cured by a change in internal politics .. well, or a psychotherapist. Your arguments, and even more so our arguments, are completely useless and will only increase discontent. The only indisputable fact will be a successful trip to Kyiv, but only for you. Relatives will still be sure that the Jews of Bandera have processed you. Such is the selyavi for the nearest foreseeable undeniable rule
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answered 7 years ago
There is only one argument for relatives - turn off the zomboyaschik. In general, you do not need to come to Kyiv. Go to Crimea. They definitely won't offend you there.
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