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What documents are needed when entering through the border Russia Ukraine at customs for a child aged 11 years old, if he is traveling with one of the parents in a car. And also for adults, what documents are needed?
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аватар Viltis
Adult passport, child birth certificate. Everything.
аватар Gedeon
read http://blogs.turpravda.ua/rossiane/69122.html
аватар V_STR
For a child, consent to leave from the second parent, even if they are divorced (if he is not deprived of parental rights).
аватар IaroslaviSHna
Original notarized consent.
аватар Viltis
According to Russian laws, no permission from the second parent is required if the child is traveling with one of the parents.
Well, if someone does not know the laws, he can of course pay a notary :-)
аватар IaroslaviSHna
Or getting thrown off the train.
аватар Viltis
IaroslaviSHna, on what basis? Please show me the law you refer to?
аватар Viltis
Rules for crossing the state border by minor citizens of the Russian Federation
When crossing the state border, a minor citizen of the Russian Federation, traveling together with at least one of the parents, can leave the Russian Federation using his foreign passport or being entered in the parent's foreign passport, while for children over the age of 7 years, a photo card of the child is required.
When a minor citizen of Russia travels across the state border of the Russian Federation together with one of the parents, the consent of the second parent is not required if he has not submitted a statement to the border authorities about his disagreement with the departure of his children from the Russian Federation. The presence of any additional documents confirming the degree of kinship is not provided.
аватар IaroslaviSHna
Our family is no longer interested in crossing borders with any powers of attorney. Therefore, no one climbs into such a jungle of legislation. When crossing the border in Kharkov (about a month ago) there was an incident in a neighboring compartment. I don't know what country they are from. A woman was traveling with a girl who looked about 10 years old. They demanded a notarized power of attorney from this woman. There were many screams. She was taken to the vestibule. We do not know the ending of this story.
аватар Viltis
Those. Do you want to say that you don’t even know WHAT the violation was and the citizens of which country participated in the incident? And on this "fact" do you advise the citizens of Russia to make a notarized permit?
You may ask WHY are you doing this?
And so persistent? Why do you force people to pay money, waste time on a completely unnecessary document?
аватар Viltis
If the story is not invented by you, then the first thing that comes to my mind is that the woman and girl you mentioned were citizens of Russia, but were not mother and daughter. It could be either an aunt, or even a neighbor or acquaintance. In this case, it is necessary to have a power of attorney from one (ONE) of the parents not to take the child abroad.
Well, this question does not concern you, you are not interested in laws, you are completely unaware of the cause of the problem that arose in the car a month ago. But you still give good advice. Meaning?:-)
аватар IaroslaviSHna
Somehow I got fed up with delays on the way and unnecessary tantrums from the fact that people, out of ignorance or, perhaps, on some incomprehensible advice, create unpleasant situations when crossing borders. Yes, and it is not difficult for people to find on the Internet and the regulatory documents themselves. And, you, Viltis, if you are so aware, write a link to the regulations.
аватар Viltis
Yes, there is a link here, above. If you had been more attentive, you would have noticed.
I am aware as I have been taking my daughter and niece abroad since 1989. Moreover, they are citizens of different states. And I'm interested in the law.
I don’t want to upset you, but the fact that you give advice on topics that you don’t understand will not reduce delays along the way.
аватар Gedeon
An honest person lives cheaper.
Example: a mother and daughter have everything according to the law. to leave the Russian Federation, she has a passport and a birth certificate indicating the child's citizenship. as we all know, the indication can be in 7 (seven) options (according to the Decrees of the President of Russia). Or everything is in order according to the law - my grandmother has a notar certified (or equated to it) statement of consent to leave the Russian Federation in .,.,.,. for ... a period (as we all know, according to the law - the period can be "until the age of majority"). Consent to leave the Russian Federation. Departure is where they leave. Who checks the exit from the Russian Federation? what border guard? Russian. and Ukrainian from Ukraine. what law of the Russian Federation says about leaving? correct in the law "on the order of exit - entry into the Russian Federation", and from Ukraine? Correctly "on the order of entry and exit from Uzbekistan." They are both "put down" and "fined". Note that no one leaves the train, at the same time. Neither honest - who is nothing to anyone and dishonest - giving a "bribe" to an official. But it turns out it's not a bribe. This is extortion. A bribe is a violation of the law by a mother-grandmother, and when was it not violated? deception, fraud. This is a scam!
Why so rude? It is thought by the fact that an honest person is cheaper. I took the trouble to put the answer 2. And you keep rubbing
аватар Viltis
I give a link to the normative document
Rules for crossing the state border of Russia by minor citizens of the Russian Federation
http://ozd.rzd.ru/static/public/ozd?STRUCTURE_ID=334&
аватар IaroslaviSHna
There will be fewer delays. The person will have power of attorney. The notary certified her. And so, if such a negligent border guard clings to a person, and what will he refer to? Yes, so, they wrote on Turpravda ... Viltis, so that I would be upset, something so extraordinary must happen. You clearly do not hold out for such a reason. Give people a fishing rod, not a fish, thank you so much. Let them read it themselves, maybe they will find something useful for themselves.
аватар Viltis
I don't want to upset you, but if a "negligent border guard", as you deigned to put it, "clings" to a person, then it (the person) will be saved not by a power of attorney, but by knowledge of the law. And this applies to all cases of extortion.
The rules for crossing the border by minors are available to any PC user, even if someone does not know how to turn on the computer, he can call the hotline of the PS of the Russian Federation. Which, in turn, is easy to find out by free help using the same phone. This is much easier and more useful than using the advice of random people who do not have the slightest idea about the legal regulation of the issue of interest.
аватар IaroslaviSHna
Viltis, I repeat once again, in order for me to be upset, something extraordinary must happen. Your comments are not such. :) Good luck in business and love in your personal life! :)
аватар anashkina-76
Thank you very much for answering my question, I just arrived and I needed my passport, and only a birth certificate for the child.
аватар IaroslaviSHna
anashkina-76, thank you very much. Wrote what documents are needed now.
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