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I'm going with my wife in June for a month in Botany Beach (Botany Beach)
Are there people going to this hotel at the same time? you can write off, together it will be more fun ...! We are 30 and 35 years old. There is a desire to travel to the sights of Thailand.
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аватар ljuda_a
The hotel is 80% of ours! from 10-19 at the reception, the hotel guide Irina, she has tours. It makes no sense to look for travel companions. Groups of tourists are selected according to their interests on the spot. Excursions are conducted by Russian guides. I had Sayama. You and the two of you will not be bored in Thailand there is something to see. Breakfast and overnight at the hotel and the rest of the tour ....
аватар Amir1
if you are going to Pattaya, then what is the point of paying big money for a hotel? You won't be in it anyway. It is better to save this money on excursions. And if you want to live on a good beach, then you are definitely not in Pattaya, but on the islands. Is it possible to combine it. But then the hotel is again not needed in Pattaya.
Now about excursions and hotel guides. If you want to pay 5200 instead of 2700 for Kwai, then you need to take a hotel guide.
And in general, it is better to buy a package tour, immediately with excursions, then it turns out much cheaper. For example, on my website, a tour of good workload with accommodation and insurance for 15 days for 2 costs 1170 dollars. Try to do this with a hotel guide even without accommodation.
Details on the site.
аватар logvinova
Hey, I totally agree with the first answer. The second one is just an advertisement. Botani is a miracle hotel and just right for travelers. It is very hot and humid in Thailand, so returning to a cozy and quiet country hotel is a miracle. Yes, the sea is better on the islands, but they cost twice as much and there is little real Thai flavor there. More tourist entertainment. By the way, we took a package of 3 excursions from Irina, including Kwai - we were satisfied. Good luck!!
аватар Alligatore
Lyudmila - of course it’s worth talking with Irina, but I will move around Thailand on my own, without resorting to the help of excursion sellers! meeting party - NO! (I don’t understand - why do we need this side !?)
Amir - I didn’t pay big money for a hotel, I bought it for 7 days through booking ... We really want to go to the islands ... leave, but then return to a quiet miracle hotel (Logvinovoy Respect) And in general it’s better NOT to take a package tour - this is " weaning robbery"... we are not going for 15 days and certainly not for 1170 dollars. it is very expensive for us!
Thanks anyway for the comments...
аватар logvinova
dear alligators!! If there is even the slightest possibility - increase the time of stay. Flying 10 hours for 7 days is a mockery of yourself. You won’t see or understand anything, and for that kind of money you won’t fly a second time soon. Forgive me if I interfere, but you will regret it later.
аватар Amir1
Alligatore and you look at the program of the tour, then you will say robbery or not. It's not just accommodation. And not just one. And to go to Tai and not take excursions, then tell me why go there at all ??? And the hotel you booked by train is 10% more expensive than any Thai company can do.
аватар xeops
Excellent, very comfortable hotel. We went there to visit our friends. Only far from the center of Pattaya.
аватар Pachok
"Yes, the sea is better on the islands, but they cost twice as much"
This is not true.
аватар anozer74
I want to express my opinion. We rested in Botany (we returned 3 weeks ago), the hotel is beautiful. We met a married couple (husband, wife and 2 children). So they went everywhere themselves. We agreed with the tuk-tuk driver and he brought, waited and took away They were.
аватар Alligatore
Logvinova - You didn’t understand ... we will be in Thailand for almost a month (from June 4 to June 26), I wrote in the title of the topic ...
We fly for more than 13 hours, since we have a carrier - an Arab company "ETIHAD" this is due to the fact that on the way back we want to visit Abu Dhabi and Dubai (this is another topic)
аватар Alligatore
Amiru - The program is what I plan and not a travel company (sorry for my disobedience) but about prices and other things - I wrote to you that I already bought tickets on the website of the "ETIHAD" company 4.06 - 26.06 - ~ 1200 $ for 2 tickets, the hotel booked for a month but paid so far for 7 days (minimum salary) $ 47 per day for DBL superior further excursions that will affect the number of nights in Botany Beach - I don’t know how they will turn out yet (I am collecting information ... ) this is the possible support for us from your side ...
Now I am collecting information on Cambodia and Laos ...
The main question - the question of my topic - is there anyone traveling on these dates to Tai...!?
аватар Alligatore
Anozer74 - thanks and I'll do it!
аватар Amir1
the day before I settled tourists (a young couple) in Botany Beach (despite my requests not to go there). Today I am relocating at their great request closer to civilization. Traveling from Botany to the city every day is a lot of money and a lot of wasted time. The hotel itself is good, but what to do there? There is no sea. The room costs 42 dollars, it is better to book a hotel room on Koh Chang for this money, there is really relaxation and the sea is super. On the tour they have an excursion every day: they are taken first, brought last, because. the hotel is sooo far away from everything, farther than ambassador city. Even tuk-tuks don't go there, only taxis. Then they go to the city, arrive at 3.00, and in the morning they go on an excursion again. Why do they need this hotel? I told them right away, but they did not listen, and now I only have problems with relocation, and so do they. This is not a prejudice against the hotel. That's life.
аватар anozer74
Amir1 - You are wrong!!!!! Tuk-tuks travel constantly and further than Botani (to the fishing village). The sea is excellent, they are the first to go on excursions and they are also the first to bring them back to the hotel. I personally rested there and went on excursions to the city. per person (round trip) to the city is expensive - then what do you think is cheap ??? Why mislead people???
аватар Amir1
anozer74 and you ask my tourists who now feel very good in a hotel on the beach of Jomtien, while saving 300 dollars.
аватар Amir1
anozer74 and yet... I spent 2 hours and rode a bike to Botany. I talked with the people who live there and when leaving the hotel, and 300 meters to the highway, I saw what I heard about. There is a man and 3 women on the highway and they are trying to stop at least something to get to the city. It turns out they've been standing like that for half an hour. Nobody stops. There are no tuk-tuks at all. They come after lunch, and call a taxi before lunch, which I then did to them, otherwise they would have missed the boat. Paid 500 baht. After lunch, tuk-tuks appear. They stand not far from the hotel, I really did not notice this parking before. But their price is not 30 baht, but 300 at least, though for the whole tuk-tuk. But if there are two of you, then these are your problems, anyway 300. And back 300, because. they go even before the Ambassador, but they don’t want to go further, only for extra money.
There is nowhere to eat. It started to rain and I decided to have a bite to eat while it was raining. And there is nothing. Only after the Ambassador, 300 meters from him, did I find a cafe. Normal, Thai, deaf. Ordered my favorite Tom Yum Kai and Cow Pad Kai. Another bottle of plain water. The first thing that struck me was that there were no mushrooms in the soup and it was on plain water, not coconut milk. The taste is certainly not the same.
аватар Amir1
... but Cow Pad was made normal and the water is like water. They brought the bill and I received my sight. 140 baht. In a remote Thai cafe on the edge of the earth, they also cooked the wrong way. Even on the second street in a trendy cafe, I would pay 130, and in a simple one in the city 90 and in the market 70. But this is not surprising, because there is nowhere else to eat, and the hotel is even more expensive and hardly fresh. And you won’t get to the city, only in the evening.
And I really began to think that my information was not correct and the tourists just froze. But now I personally checked everything and confirmed it.
But other:
"Big money can be made only on deceit, which gives rise to human stupidity. And in order to earn very big money, a person needs to believe that this stupidity is extremely necessary for him."
Come to us in expensive hotels, because we only earn more from this. And settle far away, the locals also need to earn something.
аватар logvinova
AMIR, SHAME YOU!!! Tuk-tuks drive all day, they also stand at the exit of the hotel (on the highway), waiting if they are empty. And from the hotel to the city carries a bus twice a day. And if you call almost any store, they will send a taxi for you and take you back, even if you don’t buy anything. There are few cafes, though. But the German restaurant "U UVE" opposite the hotel - a good dinner for two - 200 baht (without alcohol). AND HOW IS THERE NO SEA? Yes, there is a bay, I don’t like that either. But Botany Beach can hardly be compared with a narrow coastal strip in Pattaya hotels, 10 meters from which there is a busy street with traffic, mom, do not worry !!!!!!. And what is there in the city every day to do? Countless crowds of people, cinders from food being prepared on the street, gasoline breath from thousands of motorcycles, etc. By the way, for all excursions, AS EVERYWHERE, if they are taken first, they are brought last, and vice versa. You can, of course, advertise your own, but lie about something else !!!!!
аватар Amir1
logvinova I in my opinion did not advertise anything. By the way, I also sell Botany Beach to those who do not agree with my opinion. Everyone has their own. It’s only more profitable for me, because. the price is higher. But I do not like to sell just to sell. I want the tourist to be happy. Should I go and shoot a video, how do people get there, so that you would believe me? I'm ready to do it too. Let's get the address. I'll send tomorrow. Truth is more valuable than money!
As for the hotel, I said before that there are no complaints, on the contrary. And "there is no sea" is an expression that it is impossible to swim in such a sea. Even Thais rarely bathe in it. People go to Pattaya to hang out in the city and go on excursions, and not sit in a hotel, let alone swim in the sea, so if you go to Pattaya, then go to the city, not to the hotel. Want to relax in a hotel - to the islands for the same price. Why Pattaya??? Well, not for this it.
And also keep in mind that now is the low season and transport companies have halved the number of cars traveling on routes, including tuk-tuks. And some routes are not served at all. Including the route after the Ambassador, as I was just told in transport company. Not beneficial. And there is nothing to be ashamed of me for helping people and an adequate attitude to reality.
аватар Amir1
and they will take it to the store for free, it's true. That's just not in any, but in advertising. All tour operators make a free transfer there. And why? That's right - rollback. There are such prices that if you buy something there, then the one who brought you often receives 50% of this amount of remuneration. And the store still earns a lot. And this is 400% markup minimum. It is cheaper to take a taxi to an ordinary market for shopping.
By the way, restaurants in the off-season are also 80% closed. Even our B-52 on Walking Street closed.
аватар Alligatore
Amir1 - a question about exchange rates.
I'm interested in the dollar and the euro (are there any problems with exchanging euro cash for baht?) Does the situation in Bangkok affect the exchange rates?
аватар Amir1
all without problems. The situation in Bangkok does not affect anything at all, they don’t even remember about it here, and in most cases even the locals don’t know about it. The dollar is now near Walking Street in exchangers at 32.15 (at least yesterday it was like that), in others it is about 32 on average. I do not use, but there are no problems with the exchange. Exchangers at every turn. Tomorrow I will post the courses on the site.
аватар Alligatore
Amir1 - a question about the excursion to the river Kwai.
I hope in June this river is available for tourists?
I got acquainted with the price list on your website and I am going to use the service of your company, upon arrival in Pattaya I hope to find you ...
аватар Amir1
Kwai is always available, this is the most popular excursion, until tourists find out that there is an even better one - Pranburi.
It's very easy to find me - dial the number and that's it.
I can meet if needed. The cost of my services is the cost of my round-trip public bus fare. It's 400 baht. Personally, I don't have to pay anything. But if there is free time, I can not guarantee.
аватар logvinova
Dear alligators! As for the exchange, I'll tell you what I encountered myself. Bills of 10 and 20 dollars change at a lower rate, but this is not so significant. It’s just that we are trying to accumulate small bills in Turkey and Egypt, otherwise those horsemen always have no change. Here it turned out to be the opposite. One more thing. On the last day, we went to a stock market near Botany, where there are branded items at a normal price, not like in Bangkok. We skimped to the eyeballs, and in the evening we still need to have dinner, pack our suitcases at the airport, etc. We went to Lotus (this is like our METRO), there is a bank branch on the 3rd floor, asked to change 30 of hundreds of dollars, give change in dollars , because we fly away at night. So, they just kicked us out of the bank. It is not possible to understand what they are saying, the money was thrown, it was thrown, and the policeman drove him to the exit with a stick. By the way, they have, unlike Egypt, a Thai is always right, not a tourist, and it is not recommended to enter into disputes. Thank God, there was still a guide Irina in the hotel, and she changed the money for us, explaining that in Thailand a few years ago there were a lot of counterfeit dollars and these measures from a fright remained. By the way, opposite the hotel there is a travel agency Sashatur, we changed money there
аватар logvinova
And I highly recommend buying a salt dezik to everyone traveling to Thailand. I’ve been using it since November last year and it’s enough for a couple more years, in my opinion. Simply soak in water and anoint over the body. We bought it on the advice of the same travelers in a shop near radon springs on the way from an excursion to Kwai. It costs 100 baht. Maybe there is somewhere in the city, I did not see. The thing is amazing. And also a small flat box with toothpaste, I also still use it.
аватар Pachok
It's called crystal deodorant. It is sold in pharmacies, but not all of them are available (definitely in the MORYA network). The small one costs 85, the large one 140. In Hua Hin, they saw a small 50. This is really a very cool thing, and if what they write about it is true (that it does not contain carcinogenic compounds that are found in ordinary deodorants), it's generally great. I always bring these to all my relatives and friends, though my husband swears - they are heavy. I bought toothpaste (a flat blue box) only for the last time, I have not had time to evaluate it yet. We always buy a bunch of inhaler pencils for 18 baht.
аватар Alligatore
Here is Tai, we are already getting used to it, there are no problems with currencies (and they accept any denomination!).
IT IS NOT CLEAR WHERE Amir1... respond! your site is intermittent (filled up) I understand, but why does your number 0817225261 answer with an answering machine!? our number in Thailand is 0848725033
I don't think you've been away for 2 days already...
аватар Pattaya-Tours
You can download our price list with a full list of excursions and prices: http://minisiam.ru/index/ekskursii/0-39
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