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A trip from Ukraine to Russia to a girl
Hello. 19 years. Citizen of Ukraine.
I want to go to Russia to meet a girl. I was rummaging through this site in search of information, I came across, for example, this topic.
https://www.turpravda.ua/ua/kiev/question-7023
Concerned about the advice that it is better not to go.
Why worry? Is there really anything to worry about, or is it paranoia?
The political situation between countries has been very sad lately, given that I have a good attitude towards both fellow citizens and Russians. Does the situation somehow affect individual trips of people? How many people drive, including people around my age?
A little confused about everything. Some say that there is nothing to worry about, others warn. I will be glad if you help me figure it out.
Thank you in advance.
I want to go to Russia to meet a girl. I was rummaging through this site in search of information, I came across, for example, this topic.
https://www.turpravda.ua/ua/kiev/question-7023
Concerned about the advice that it is better not to go.
Why worry? Is there really anything to worry about, or is it paranoia?
The political situation between countries has been very sad lately, given that I have a good attitude towards both fellow citizens and Russians. Does the situation somehow affect individual trips of people? How many people drive, including people around my age?
A little confused about everything. Some say that there is nothing to worry about, others warn. I will be glad if you help me figure it out.
Thank you in advance.
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Yes, the political situation is far from clear. However, there are no battles of crests in Russian villages yet, unlike in your country.
The general answer is "who will you run into." Almost every Russian girl has her own environment, among which there may be her admirer. And there are a lot of different situations...
But it is interesting for me to look at a Russian girl who wants to contact a Ukrainian. This is something. Maybe she'll respond?
The general answer is "who will you run into." Almost every Russian girl has her own environment, among which there may be her admirer. And there are a lot of different situations...
But it is interesting for me to look at a Russian girl who wants to contact a Ukrainian. This is something. Maybe she'll respond?
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answered 7 years ago
I think the guy decided to work in Russia, at the same time get away from the ATO, but about a Russian girl - this is just a beautiful legend for the SBU.
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answered 7 years ago
Minister Klimkin recently spoke about 3 million. Ukrainians in Russia. So, they drive somehow.
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answered 7 years ago
Also how they drive.
They go to work in a country that is tediously and depressingly constantly called the aggressor on all world sites.
It's as if in the forty-third citizens of the USSR would go to work in Nazi Germany)))
They go to work in a country that is tediously and depressingly constantly called the aggressor on all world sites.
It's as if in the forty-third citizens of the USSR would go to work in Nazi Germany)))
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answered 7 years ago
https://www.turpravda.com/ru/moskva/blog-158647.html
Here's a story for you about how a Ukrainian from Berdichev went to a Russian from the Moscow region.
And here is a photo for you from the village where she went.
https://www.turpravda.com/acc/Kolia_oro.egor/gallery/123358/434581.html
Here's a story for you about how a Ukrainian from Berdichev went to a Russian from the Moscow region.
And here is a photo for you from the village where she went.
https://www.turpravda.com/acc/Kolia_oro.egor/gallery/123358/434581.html
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answered 7 years ago
If it were my will, I would drive all crests out of our country to hell. Not only do they scold at home, they also travel in herds, but they try to get closer to the center, but they demand sanatorium housing conditions and unimaginable money for visitors.
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answered 7 years ago
AlexWizard, well, you don’t need to go to extremes either. Objectively, there is a lack of qualified labor force in Russia. And if a qualified worker comes from Ukraine, then we will accept a Ukrainian. They don't require anything special, in my experience. They travel all over Central and Southern Russia (the climate and mentality are closer to Ukraine), beyond the Urals, of course, they are rarely seen.
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answered 7 years ago
I don’t know how beyond the Urals, but the sanatoriums near Moscow MOAN from strangers.
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Whom? Employees or clients? It is original, of course, to moan from customers, only sanatoriums near Moscow are capable of this.)))
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answered 7 years ago
Yes, no, the sanatoriums are closed, they accommodate those who come in large numbers.
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Theoretically, travel is still possible. Yes, and practically the same. The attitude towards citizens of Ukraine traveling to the Russian Federation is different. For young men a special approach. Of course, age (19 years) is annoying. Guy, draft age, there may be problems with leaving. The border guards will not believe this "legend" about the girl, they will find fault under any pretext ..
If you have a passport, there are more options to "flee". Go, for example, to Turkey for the purpose of tourism (more plausible), .... and then further.
If you have a passport, there are more options to "flee". Go, for example, to Turkey for the purpose of tourism (more plausible), .... and then further.
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answered 7 years ago
Were there specific cases when Ukrainian border guards did not let them out of the country on the basis of age?
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lazy_person totally agree.
I have been meeting with my friends in Turkey for several years now.
Yes - and cheaper - it works.
I have been meeting with my friends in Turkey for several years now.
Yes - and cheaper - it works.
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answered 7 years ago
sigur62, maybe there really is love))) and you immediately "do not believe")))
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Olenka, when love - they don’t ask on Turpravda whether to go to her or not)))
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answered 7 years ago
Good afternoon young man! There is absolutely no reason to worry about getting to Russia. We are hospitable. Everyone is welcome!!!!
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answered 7 years ago
ollennka specific cases of "not allowed out of the country on the basis of age" were not mostly rumors.
But there were definitely specific cases when men of military age or retired conscripts were taken away after a vacation in Turkey, Egypt, etc. directly descended from the gangway of the plane at the Boryspil airport, it is very convenient to immediately take things with you. Last October, in nightclubs in Kyiv, young people of military age were taken directly from the disco.
But there were definitely specific cases when men of military age or retired conscripts were taken away after a vacation in Turkey, Egypt, etc. directly descended from the gangway of the plane at the Boryspil airport, it is very convenient to immediately take things with you. Last October, in nightclubs in Kyiv, young people of military age were taken directly from the disco.
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answered 7 years ago
Mpkizobilie, 19-year-old Pavel Grib, who was kidnapped by the Russian FSB in Belarus, has been in the Rostov pre-trial detention center since last year, he also went to the girl.
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There is no doubt about the sincerity of your words, otherwise there would be no flow of Ukrainians traveling to the Russian Federation (back and forth). The guy who asked the question has doubts, apparently he is afraid to "shine" ... then he has a draft age. He is worried (as he himself writes about) "advice about the fact that it is better not to go." In my opinion, the advice is very correct, and not because they will "steal" (they won't steal anyone), but because you yourself will show up ..
By the way, for the citizens of the Russian Federation it is better to wait a little with this ("love for a Ukrainian woman").
There is no doubt about the sincerity of your words, otherwise there would be no flow of Ukrainians traveling to the Russian Federation (back and forth). The guy who asked the question has doubts, apparently he is afraid to "shine" ... then he has a draft age. He is worried (as he himself writes about) "advice about the fact that it is better not to go." In my opinion, the advice is very correct, and not because they will "steal" (they won't steal anyone), but because you yourself will show up ..
By the way, for the citizens of the Russian Federation it is better to wait a little with this ("love for a Ukrainian woman").
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answered 7 years ago
Well, that's it, now sit Dreadnought368 in your native country until you leave the military age. The sweetheart will not wait ... she will marry another. There is no sadder story in the world...
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answered 7 years ago
He will live if he does not die.
In short, the question is about nothing. The mentioned three million are driving.
In short, the question is about nothing. The mentioned three million are driving.
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AlexWizard - I just can't understand: how come in large numbers interfere Personally with your life?
sigur62- what about the forty-third citizens of the USSR- had the same number of relatives and friends in Germany? And all this - the politicians tried to destroy?
Are you sure that they stopped communicating?
Yes, from history, I don’t remember something that Hitler had a business in the USSR, or Stalin in Germany?
sigur62- what about the forty-third citizens of the USSR- had the same number of relatives and friends in Germany? And all this - the politicians tried to destroy?
Are you sure that they stopped communicating?
Yes, from history, I don’t remember something that Hitler had a business in the USSR, or Stalin in Germany?
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answered 7 years ago
Helena_fortuna,
let's start with the last one. Before the war (1937-1939), as is known from history, the USSR supplied Hitler with various minerals in significant volumes. The valiant warriors of the Reich underwent training in the troops of the USSR, scientists - at the factories of the USSR, and the latter received technologies from the Reich according to the list and machine tools. If that's not "business", then what is?
This is first.
Secondly, what does it matter to you personally how those who come in large numbers interfere with me personally? In such conversations, it is somehow not customary to go over to the personalities of the arguing, it is considered bad form. Although, as a hint, I can refer to one of the Strugatsky gizmos, namely, the "Inhabited Island" (in some versions, "Uninhabited"), in which local scientists investigated the so-called "social pressure". If you were the same seventh decade as I am, I would not have to point out your elementary omissions.
By the way, "sure" is spelled with one. "n". March to the school, dry up!
let's start with the last one. Before the war (1937-1939), as is known from history, the USSR supplied Hitler with various minerals in significant volumes. The valiant warriors of the Reich underwent training in the troops of the USSR, scientists - at the factories of the USSR, and the latter received technologies from the Reich according to the list and machine tools. If that's not "business", then what is?
This is first.
Secondly, what does it matter to you personally how those who come in large numbers interfere with me personally? In such conversations, it is somehow not customary to go over to the personalities of the arguing, it is considered bad form. Although, as a hint, I can refer to one of the Strugatsky gizmos, namely, the "Inhabited Island" (in some versions, "Uninhabited"), in which local scientists investigated the so-called "social pressure". If you were the same seventh decade as I am, I would not have to point out your elementary omissions.
By the way, "sure" is spelled with one. "n". March to the school, dry up!
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answered 7 years ago
AlexWizard I didn't ask you "FOR ALL ODESSA".
Is someone bothering you - or just talking like that?
Is someone bothering you - or just talking like that?
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AlexWizard "..USSR supplied..". Well, if about this, then this is not a business at all. And he didn’t “supply”, but paid off - he paid, including for those tractor factories, technologies, machine tools, which later (in the 40s) began to produce tanks (by the way, grain was confiscated in the villages for these purposes). This is not a business, but a forced survival tactic, if you will. Germany was more ready for war and it was necessary to catch up with her. They caught up only by 1943, thanks to these machines and factories, for which they paid off. They did not keep up with the Germans to prepare for a future war. Why distort history? Hence, all sorts of diplomatic agreements with Hitler, delayed the war by any means ...
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AlexWizard And in general it is not necessary to apply this term to Stalin and the USSR - "Business" (now the "wise men" will pile on and peck, they will begin to make "clarifications" of what "business" is). Business is what brings dividends to the capitalist in his pocket. In the USSR (under Stalin) everything went to the development of the country. After his death, Stalin was left with boots, an overcoat and a pipe. What kind of "business" is this for Stalin personally. The people and the country have left - the whole country with plants and factories.
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Lazy_person, I answered in the language in which the question was asked. And there is no need to explain - they say, the country survived ... Did they exchange resources for machine tools? Changed. Why is a completely different question. In such transactions, especially international ones, ethical considerations are inappropriate. Well, it's not worth glorifying this ghoul either. For him, the main thing is not to leave gold behind, but to be a leader. It is not necessary to judge the then time from the standpoint of today's goals. There were many generals at the age of 20, how was his drunkard son?
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And further. What exactly was in Stalin's head - no one has the right to clairvoyance. You are close to the truth in the Soviet perception and interpretation, I am closer to the point of view of Suvorov-Rezun that Stalin himself would have attacked on July 6, but Hitler was 2 weeks ahead of him.
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By the way, about Suvorov. Personally, I am grateful to Kiev for the fact that being in the Crimea (until the 14th year I traveled every year for 6 years), I bought his books, which are very scarce in our country. In particular, "The Shadow of Victory", in which he tore Zhukov to shreds. Unfortunately, our country is not so free as to publish Suvorov in full.
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