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Montenegro, Croatia or Turkey?
Please advise which visa-free country should be chosen for a 2-week summer vacation for a young couple? We are looking for beautiful nature, clear sea and mountains, interesting sights (which you can visit on your own), good service, but at the same time a more or less budget option (it will suit a tour to a villa without meals).
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Ideally, the presence of the "old town" for evening walks. I would be grateful if you can immediately advise the city/villa/hotel/operator.
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answered 13 years ago
All three countries suit your requirements. Of all three, Turkey will be cheaper and more satisfying, the sea is warmer, you will meet more outcasts and cattle. Croatia is the most expensive, the most beautiful and the most civilized. Montenegro is a little simpler than Croatia, but more expensive than Turkey.
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answered 13 years ago
Yes, and more. The sea in Croatia and Montenegro is cold. Beautiful, very unusual, but cold.
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answered 13 years ago
Well, how cold is it? don't make it up! you are probably out of luck - after the storm, deep waters mixed with surface waters and it was cold for three days. But this is an exception. Last year, for example, when not a drop of rain fell on the coast during the summer, the sea was "terribly" warm. We didn't know what to do to cool off a bit. They went further away to the mountains and "cooled" in mountain lakes. I recommend Montenegro. Nice "like at home" atmosphere. Choose any city for living, because you can go / go for a walk in the old cities at any end of the coast.
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answered 13 years ago
My dear, if you want an economical vacation - choose Turkey. If you like chic and expensive transportation - Croatia. If you want to see really beautiful virgin nature, feel the flavor of seaside life, see a bunch of sights and interesting buildings, spend a romantic vacation in a fairly calm atmosphere, try a sea of delicious dishes and enjoy hospitality - I advise Montenegro, Budva, Villa Nikolic, where he is immensely complacent and sympathetic the owner Mio, who loves married young couples very much, loves to treat good people with delicious home-made brandy and home-made wine, is happy to show them the country and suggest beautiful and clean beaches. Unfortunately, you can only buy rooms through R-tours. Well, or drive in on vacation - there she is in our agencies. But I highly recommend. We made friends with Mio, we are going this year for the third time. He was our witness at the wedding - he already considers his family. His villa is very "homey", however, without food, but Mio will be happy to recommend the best restaurants and even book a table and take him there :) a great place for a young couple. Themselves like this :)
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answered 13 years ago
I can’t compare these 3 countries and say which one is better, because. I was only in Montenegro, but I want to say that the country is wonderful, I rested there for 3 years, and I plan to do it again. True, they always lived in different villas (obala luxury, harmony, wine, azzuro), but I liked obala luxury more, but the wine villa was the most terrible memory for us (no more foot there). and so, nature, sea, people, nightlife - everything is super!
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answered 13 years ago
having visited these three countries, I am for Montenegro
Croatia is more beautiful but also more expensive
Turkey....
an immense number of "light brown-tourist" lately
it is more and more reminiscent of the Crimea with all the consequences ((
(especially Antalya coast)
so if it’s beautiful and budget then Montenegro
if beautiful and more expensive then Croatia
IMHO
Croatia is more beautiful but also more expensive
Turkey....
an immense number of "light brown-tourist" lately
it is more and more reminiscent of the Crimea with all the consequences ((
(especially Antalya coast)
so if it’s beautiful and budget then Montenegro
if beautiful and more expensive then Croatia
IMHO
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answered 13 years ago
I am for!" Montenegro with all hands and feet. :) We went twice. The first time we lived in Budva at Villa Svetlana. Second time in Radovici. Right here:
http://radovichi.com/index.html
Both times arrived in euphoria. Tried to go to Italy - not that. Not our choice.
Budva is more for lovers of nightlife. The beach is so-so. With impudent faces, we went to a private beach in Rafailovici, pretending that we were guests. :) But there is an old city (small).
I liked Rafailovichi more.
Minuses. The beach is far away, but I look at it philosophically - it is useful for the figure.
There is nowhere to walk in the evening, i.e. nowhere at all (village without lanterns). But again, we were not upset, because during the day we got so tired that in the evening we sat in the room with pleasure and played cards, and at 22-23 we went to bed.
Pros. Huge, comfortable apartments with large comfortable beds (this is a word about young couples). :)
Shower, toilet, kitchen, refrigerator, air conditioning, TV.
Nature. No, it's not like that... NATURE!!! Breathtaking.
You can rent a car and drive around Montenegro or arrange a transfer with the hotel owners.
Minibuses, taxis and buses go to Kotor (with a delightful big old town!) 15 minutes drive. To Tivat airport too.
http://radovichi.com/index.html
Both times arrived in euphoria. Tried to go to Italy - not that. Not our choice.
Budva is more for lovers of nightlife. The beach is so-so. With impudent faces, we went to a private beach in Rafailovici, pretending that we were guests. :) But there is an old city (small).
I liked Rafailovichi more.
Minuses. The beach is far away, but I look at it philosophically - it is useful for the figure.
There is nowhere to walk in the evening, i.e. nowhere at all (village without lanterns). But again, we were not upset, because during the day we got so tired that in the evening we sat in the room with pleasure and played cards, and at 22-23 we went to bed.
Pros. Huge, comfortable apartments with large comfortable beds (this is a word about young couples). :)
Shower, toilet, kitchen, refrigerator, air conditioning, TV.
Nature. No, it's not like that... NATURE!!! Breathtaking.
You can rent a car and drive around Montenegro or arrange a transfer with the hotel owners.
Minibuses, taxis and buses go to Kotor (with a delightful big old town!) 15 minutes drive. To Tivat airport too.
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answered 13 years ago
There was not enough space in the previous post :)
Ask for a room with a mountain view if you are planning to. Chapels are scattered on them and sometimes a quiet ringing is heard over the mountains.
If you crave nightlife, go to Kotor.
And there is also a restaurant at the hotel, where we (two young couples) overeat every day so that we could hardly crawl to the rooms. Very tasty and inexpensive. On the site that I sent you, there is a menu with prices.
It looks like I'm promoting a hotel, but I'm not, it's just a flood of memories.
By the way, we were in Giljaca ***, but Galina is also a good option. Galina has a Russian mistress, "Giljaca" *** has a local owner Yova. But they are friends, so you can contact Galina, if anything.
Ask for a room with a mountain view if you are planning to. Chapels are scattered on them and sometimes a quiet ringing is heard over the mountains.
If you crave nightlife, go to Kotor.
And there is also a restaurant at the hotel, where we (two young couples) overeat every day so that we could hardly crawl to the rooms. Very tasty and inexpensive. On the site that I sent you, there is a menu with prices.
It looks like I'm promoting a hotel, but I'm not, it's just a flood of memories.
By the way, we were in Giljaca ***, but Galina is also a good option. Galina has a Russian mistress, "Giljaca" *** has a local owner Yova. But they are friends, so you can contact Galina, if anything.
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answered 13 years ago
Bethany, thank you for such a detailed story.
Very interesting, but I would still like to walk in the evenings in the Old City (not in discos, but along the embankment and old streets).
How much does it cost to rent a car (approximately)? This option is the most optimal for us (this is how Crete and the coast of Bulgaria looked).
I read a lot of reviews about excursions to the Canyon. Is it possible to go on your own. by renting a car?
Because you can also go to the nearest towns by bus (if the schedule is convenient nearby), but it’s still better to go to the mountains by car ... What do you say?
Very interesting, but I would still like to walk in the evenings in the Old City (not in discos, but along the embankment and old streets).
How much does it cost to rent a car (approximately)? This option is the most optimal for us (this is how Crete and the coast of Bulgaria looked).
I read a lot of reviews about excursions to the Canyon. Is it possible to go on your own. by renting a car?
Because you can also go to the nearest towns by bus (if the schedule is convenient nearby), but it’s still better to go to the mountains by car ... What do you say?
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My dear, if the driving experience is not great - I don’t recommend going to the canyons myself - the road is not easy, and even narrow. And the canyons themselves are definitely worth seeing. And rafting
If you want to walk along the streets - Budva. There is a fairly large Old Town, where there is one chic place - a Mexican restaurant on the street, on the house (wall) they show an old silent movie to the accompaniment of a live guitar and saxophone.)))) chic. and discos are not so noisy, you can walk to the other side of the embankment - it's calm there
If you want to walk along the streets - Budva. There is a fairly large Old Town, where there is one chic place - a Mexican restaurant on the street, on the house (wall) they show an old silent movie to the accompaniment of a live guitar and saxophone.)))) chic. and discos are not so noisy, you can walk to the other side of the embankment - it's calm there
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answered 13 years ago
I was in Croatia and Turkey, about Montenegro I can say that it is a little cheaper than Croatia and the mountains are steeper. From Dubrovnik there is a bus with an excursion to Montenegro. In Croatia, she lived privately in a villa without food for 2 weeks. We ate on our own and in cafes. Rent a car for $500 a week plus gas. The villa was on the outskirts of the small town of Ston near Dubrovnik (1 hour drive) Bedroom, living room and European kitchen, but there are also large rooms. The owner himself makes brandy, wine, grows peaches, grapes (we were in August) He treats him to fish on a barbecue or mussels. The price is about $ 1000 plus food, plus tickets and entertainment. Watching in Croatia 2 weeks is not enough for everything.
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answered 13 years ago
I agree with Jerma. You need to be a very risky person to drive along Montenegrin roads on your own into the canyon.
Budva is a miracle in the evening, but the beaches, as I said, are not very good. Not even very much. But this, of course, who needs what from life. :) The cafes there are great. We ate at the Obala cafe from the hotel of the same name. Cheap, plentiful and delicious. I wanted frills - we went to more expensive restaurants. And hedgehogs live there, right in the city. I personally saw two in the evening in a neighboring yard. They say they catch local snakes. By the way, I also saw snakes.
In general, Montenegro is nature in the first place and air.
Be sure to visit Kotor (or just relax there) - I love it. :) Old Town, Boka Kotorska Bay, restaurants. Romance. Think. It just occurred to me that maybe this is what you are looking for. Although there are no hotels.
Budva is a miracle in the evening, but the beaches, as I said, are not very good. Not even very much. But this, of course, who needs what from life. :) The cafes there are great. We ate at the Obala cafe from the hotel of the same name. Cheap, plentiful and delicious. I wanted frills - we went to more expensive restaurants. And hedgehogs live there, right in the city. I personally saw two in the evening in a neighboring yard. They say they catch local snakes. By the way, I also saw snakes.
In general, Montenegro is nature in the first place and air.
Be sure to visit Kotor (or just relax there) - I love it. :) Old Town, Boka Kotorska Bay, restaurants. Romance. Think. It just occurred to me that maybe this is what you are looking for. Although there are no hotels.
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answered 13 years ago
Well, near Budva there are 2 gorgeous beaches - Trsteno and Ploche, which can be reached by taxi or bus
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This is, of course, the way out. Especially if Darling rents a car.
I don’t want to argue about the advantages and disadvantages of Budva. The taste and color, as they say...
Well, in general, Montenegro is all near something. In the sense that the country is small, compact. We traveled all over it by buses and hitchhiking. :) We rarely rode a taxi, as it is still quite an expensive pleasure JUST FOR US.
I don’t want to argue about the advantages and disadvantages of Budva. The taste and color, as they say...
Well, in general, Montenegro is all near something. In the sense that the country is small, compact. We traveled all over it by buses and hitchhiking. :) We rarely rode a taxi, as it is still quite an expensive pleasure JUST FOR US.
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answered 13 years ago
Thanks everyone for the replies.
While leaning towards Montenegro. It remains to choose a resort. Tell me please:
- Is the sea warm (+20-22C is cold for me, ideally at least 25C). What month is the most comfortable in terms of temperature (July, August, September)?
- You recommend rest in Budva, Kotor, St. Stefan also advised me. What to choose anyway? How much I see on the map in Kotor the bay, and not the open sea .. but there are fewer tourists and the beaches are cleaner. The beaches in Budva are not very good (as I understood from the reviews), but there are a lot of interesting things nearby. Maybe St. Stephen?
I'm completely confused.
P.S. My husband drives a car very well (we already drove in the mountains in Crete), I hope he can handle the Canyon :)
What sights would you recommend visiting? The country is quite small and there is a lot to see. Should you visit Dubrovnik? If yes, is it possible to do it yourself? If not, what is the approximate cost of the tour?
Thanks a lot for the answers!
While leaning towards Montenegro. It remains to choose a resort. Tell me please:
- Is the sea warm (+20-22C is cold for me, ideally at least 25C). What month is the most comfortable in terms of temperature (July, August, September)?
- You recommend rest in Budva, Kotor, St. Stefan also advised me. What to choose anyway? How much I see on the map in Kotor the bay, and not the open sea .. but there are fewer tourists and the beaches are cleaner. The beaches in Budva are not very good (as I understood from the reviews), but there are a lot of interesting things nearby. Maybe St. Stephen?
I'm completely confused.
P.S. My husband drives a car very well (we already drove in the mountains in Crete), I hope he can handle the Canyon :)
What sights would you recommend visiting? The country is quite small and there is a lot to see. Should you visit Dubrovnik? If yes, is it possible to do it yourself? If not, what is the approximate cost of the tour?
Thanks a lot for the answers!
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answered 13 years ago
My dear, I recommend the end of August - the beginning of September. Great time. Prices are already lower everywhere, discounts on clothes and all that.
I recommend relaxing in Budva - it is most convenient to travel from there, and the rest is varied - and nightlife, and a quiet old town, and a long embankment. The beach in Budva is dirty, but there are plenty of great beaches around, and since you take a car, you can go to some other one every day.
I don’t advise Kotor - there the bay and the sea are not so clean, and the beaches as such are not the same .. all sorts of mussels are grown in the bay and so on.
For SW. Stefan won't say anything, I don't know.
I advise you to see: Kotor (walk in it), generally drive a car along the entire coast of the Bay of Kotor, go to Skadar Lake to fish, visit Ostrog (a monastery in cities), Canyons (rafting), Cetinje-Lovcen is also excellent - a lot what can be seen. What else .. Ulcinj and after him to see how Ada Bojana flows into the sea .... yes, in general, sit down and go - there are a lot of signs with pointers to monasteries and old fortresses. There are many beautiful monasteries with olive groves on the way to Bar.
I recommend relaxing in Budva - it is most convenient to travel from there, and the rest is varied - and nightlife, and a quiet old town, and a long embankment. The beach in Budva is dirty, but there are plenty of great beaches around, and since you take a car, you can go to some other one every day.
I don’t advise Kotor - there the bay and the sea are not so clean, and the beaches as such are not the same .. all sorts of mussels are grown in the bay and so on.
For SW. Stefan won't say anything, I don't know.
I advise you to see: Kotor (walk in it), generally drive a car along the entire coast of the Bay of Kotor, go to Skadar Lake to fish, visit Ostrog (a monastery in cities), Canyons (rafting), Cetinje-Lovcen is also excellent - a lot what can be seen. What else .. Ulcinj and after him to see how Ada Bojana flows into the sea .... yes, in general, sit down and go - there are a lot of signs with pointers to monasteries and old fortresses. There are many beautiful monasteries with olive groves on the way to Bar.
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answered 13 years ago
If you are still in Budva, you can hire a boat and go sunbathing / swimming on the islands or fishing.
One of the best beaches in Montenegro is Horizont (the Montenegrins themselves rest there every weekend, pulling up there from all the surrounding cities :)
I don't know about St. Stephen either, unfortunately.
Think more about Becici and Rafailovici (see hotels, reviews). From them to Budva, 5 minutes on foot along an illuminated path lined with pebbles, passing over the sea, and the beaches there are more decent. In the evenings we walked along the road from Becici to Budva, watched the sunset.
About Kotor. Yes, mussels and oysters are grown there, in my opinion, but the water seemed clear to me and a little warmer than in the open sea. In addition, there is an ornithological reserve nearby. Carnivals are held in Kotor (try to get on it, a wonderful sight!). Not Brazil, of course, but still.
http://www.spectours.ru/event/carnival/carnival-description/Kotor.html
Budva responds with a fisherman's day. :)
I do not know the dates of both events. Search the Internet.
In terms of time, for my taste, the end of July-beginning of August is better, since I am not interested in clothes. The warmest sea and hot sun. If with shopping, then, of course, it is better closer to sales
One of the best beaches in Montenegro is Horizont (the Montenegrins themselves rest there every weekend, pulling up there from all the surrounding cities :)
I don't know about St. Stephen either, unfortunately.
Think more about Becici and Rafailovici (see hotels, reviews). From them to Budva, 5 minutes on foot along an illuminated path lined with pebbles, passing over the sea, and the beaches there are more decent. In the evenings we walked along the road from Becici to Budva, watched the sunset.
About Kotor. Yes, mussels and oysters are grown there, in my opinion, but the water seemed clear to me and a little warmer than in the open sea. In addition, there is an ornithological reserve nearby. Carnivals are held in Kotor (try to get on it, a wonderful sight!). Not Brazil, of course, but still.
http://www.spectours.ru/event/carnival/carnival-description/Kotor.html
Budva responds with a fisherman's day. :)
I do not know the dates of both events. Search the Internet.
In terms of time, for my taste, the end of July-beginning of August is better, since I am not interested in clothes. The warmest sea and hot sun. If with shopping, then, of course, it is better closer to sales
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answered 13 years ago
The horizon is not in Budva. I read it, I saw that it was somehow incomprehensibly written. :)
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answered 13 years ago
I have been to all these countries and seen a lot of things. From my experience, I can advise you to go on your own to Croatia, and then drive along the entire Adriatic coast to Albania (that is, visit Bosnia, Montenegro and Albania). In this case, there is no point in booking a villa, as you will be constantly moving. How to rent a hut for the night (or several days) in these countries, I described in detail in my story (search by nickname!). There are really a lot of mountains, the sea is clean and there are a lot of attractions.
But as for a beach holiday, not everything is much worse here. The water is really colder than in Turkey or Egypt and there are very few beaches and they themselves are small (not counting the great ones in Ulcinj). So if beaches and warm sea are more important for you, then it is better to go to Egypt, Turkey, Indonesia, India, etc. countries. And if mountains are more important and you want to see Europe, walk around medieval cities, etc., then it’s better to fly to Croatia. The flight will cost about 100 euros one way per person. And it will be possible to fly back from Montenegro, so as not to return back. This way you save money and time!
But as for a beach holiday, not everything is much worse here. The water is really colder than in Turkey or Egypt and there are very few beaches and they themselves are small (not counting the great ones in Ulcinj). So if beaches and warm sea are more important for you, then it is better to go to Egypt, Turkey, Indonesia, India, etc. countries. And if mountains are more important and you want to see Europe, walk around medieval cities, etc., then it’s better to fly to Croatia. The flight will cost about 100 euros one way per person. And it will be possible to fly back from Montenegro, so as not to return back. This way you save money and time!
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answered 13 years ago
Well, as for good service, I did not quite understand. If you are ready to take a villa without food, then what good service can there be?
And the warm sea does not quite fit in with good service, since really warm water can only be off the coast of Africa (Red Sea or Indian Ocean) or in Southeast Asia. The service there leaves a lot to be desired.
And the warm sea does not quite fit in with good service, since really warm water can only be off the coast of Africa (Red Sea or Indian Ocean) or in Southeast Asia. The service there leaves a lot to be desired.
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answered 13 years ago
Thanks for the reply and the new good idea. I will read your review.
By service, I meant polite owners of the villa, quality rooms and a well-maintained villa. I think you can find them :)
By service, I meant polite owners of the villa, quality rooms and a well-maintained villa. I think you can find them :)
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answered 13 years ago
Well, there are really many polite hosts in these countries, but you must first look at housing, and if you like it, move in, and then pay. Sometimes housing is not very comfortable or in not quite proper condition. If you stay in hotels, then always demand to show you the room first, and then think about whether it is worth checking in there.
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Another option for a cheap beach holiday and a relatively warm sea is Albania. Much has been written about this country, including my note. You can wander around the mountains for a week, see fortresses, etc., and then go to the Ionian Sea in Albania, the resorts of Vlora and Saranda. Ionica itself is warmer than the Adriatic, and there are fewer people there and prices are much lower. The border is crossed without problems anywhere, and the Albanians themselves are quite friendly.
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answered 13 years ago
I don't know about my dear, but you got me interested in Albania. :) But I just can't find tours with flights to Albania from Moscow. Can you tell me where they can be purchased?
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answered 13 years ago
There are such tours! But I have not seen direct flights from Russia. All flights only with transfers in Istanbul, Vienna or somewhere else. That is, such a flight will take a lot of time and it will be tiring. Most of our tourists travel to Albania through neighboring countries. If you have a Greek (Schengen) multivisa, then you can fly to the island of Kerkyra, and from there by ferry. There are also ferries from Italy. Some enter through Macedonia or Serbia, but then you will need to drive through the whole country through the mountains. Although such a trip also deserves attention, since there will be a lot of interesting things along the way (mountain lakes, caves, ancient cities, etc.). But if you go purely by the sea, then it is better to fly to Montenegro, and from there take a bus or taxi to Shkoder (Skadar). Well, there are already buses and taxis in all directions (from the central square). Entry to Albania from June 1 is visa-free, as well as to Montenegro, Bosnia and Croatia. So everyone is allowed in without any problems and with any passports!
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