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I am in Greece. Passport expired. We need to get to Italy. How to do it better? Where are documents not checked? What are the options?
Thanks, I'm looking forward to it.
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аватар ollennka
You definitely won’t travel by land and air without presenting a passport, ferries remain, if the distance is short, you may not need a passport to buy tickets.
аватар yanafrolkova4
Thank you. This option was considered in the first place, but when boarding the ferry, documents are checked. Is it possible to rent a pleasure boat and go on it? I will be with my family, they all have passports with valid visas.
аватар ollennka
)) the option with the boat is downright spy. Try it, I don’t know how many kilometers the boat’s gas tank lasts.
And with the passport everything is so bad? Maybe go to the consulate for a new one?
аватар wika_2009
I am very sorry that you are in this situation. Unfortunately, you will not be able to cross the border for sure. Or it will be luck. Rent a car? For a husband? Well, something like this....
аватар 3018886
The family travels separately - you are separate. Only pay and negotiate with the trucker. or a bus driver (they have a secret sleeping bag under the seats), cars don’t get scared at all, they carry 50 illegal immigrants, but for a woman this is a problem for obvious reasons.
аватар 3018886
By the way, you can ride a bike under an athlete, my friend traveled from Montenegro to Croatia several times without a visa and no one even asked for Schengen documents.
аватар L_ena
Make a raft and row home.
аватар kolyan_cat
And what, in Greece, when traveling by bus or train, do they check your passport? Because of the refugees?
аватар ollennka
In Greece they do not check, at the border, of course, they will.
аватар 19062005
Is there a border with border guards between Greece and Italy?
аватар ollennka
))) There are plenty of land borders with border guards, the only option is to break through by sea.
аватар AllOverTheWorld
how lovely)
our people can not be defeated ....
of all the answers, only one casually sounded a legitimate solution to the issue))
Of course, I understand everything ... but why did you bring it to such a situation ... how long have you been in Greece, because Schengen would not have been put in the passport with a validity period of less than six months. Then on what grounds were you there? What about your visa? It depends on what you do next.
аватар ollennka
))) If the passport is already expired, the visa, apparently, is also a problem. For some reason, before deportation, a person really needs to go to Italy, why not take part in the discussion of this spy story? yanafrolkova4, please write back how you swim across)).
аватар kolyan_cat
Usually the Schengen border is an invisible line that land transport (train, bus) passes unnoticed by passengers. The train tickets do not include the name. In bus tickets - often too. Passport is not required for boarding. Is the situation different in Greece?
аватар ollennka
Read the question again. She needs to get from Greece to Italy. Invisible line only by sea.
аватар ollennka
By the way, on the map that I attached, there is an error with Cyprus.
аватар yanafrolkova4
Thanks for the discussion, but still no answer. I understand that it is necessary through the sea, but how? Whatever the documents were checked .... did anyone swim from Greece to Italy? How is everything going?
аватар 19062005
what answer do you want? tourists here, not spies. go to the consulate to solve the problem. hang gliders and a balloon will not help you
аватар ollennka
I like the option with a boat or pleasure yacht. There are no other options. If the relative has the appropriate rights to manage the watercraft, of course.
аватар Turist_Rus
And I would choose the train. In them, passport control is selective; a woman of clearly European appearance and dressed NOT in the Muslim tradition (but without inflection and kitsch) is unlikely to become attached. It is an electric train, not a long-distance train.
Source: About 10 years ago I crossed the German-Swiss border on an electric train, I saw who they pass without looking, and whose passport is almost turned inside out.
аватар ollennka
Turist_Rus, surprise us, which trains can take you from Greece to Italy without a passport?)))
аватар sp_kushneruk
This is very Russian: to engage in adventures, and then complain and be offended. What is so impatient ... My advice to you: go back home, get a normal passport, and then - at least to Italy, at least to Spain ... If you get into the EU "black lists" - you will get yourself in trouble for the rest of your life
аватар ollennka
Yes, the author does not seem to complain and is not offended))). Deportation is just a matter of time.
аватар Turist_Rus
Yes, I was a bit hasty about the trains, I forgot that they do not have a common border.
аватар 3018886
why did you end up in that Greece outside the law and without documents and willingly acquired the status of an illegal immigrant?
and now you still yearn to move on to Italy...and not to the UK?
there is only one way out how to continue your life of crime - only with blacks on rafts ... if they don’t drown in Italy))))
аватар 3018886
The next question will be tell me how to get to France or Germany without documents from Italy and get a job there in a rich family on their life-long maintenance .... ah-ahahahahah
аватар sp_kushneruk
"Yes, the author does not seem to complain or take offense))). Deportation is just a matter of time." (ollennka)
Complaints and grievances in the same row - a matter of time. Until the fried cockerel pecked at a certain place...
аватар Apyatka
Do they check passports inside the Schengen zone? Is there a border and border guards? And passport control?
аватар ollennka
There are no borders, but there is a sea.
аватар sp_kushneruk
Yes, sometimes they check at land posts ... Rarely, but it happens. We got checked at the Spain-Andorra border...
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