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For 2015 there are two refusals in the Greek visa. Can I go to Greece on a Lithuanian visa and marry a Greek there on the same visa?
For 2015 there are two refusals in the Greek visa. Can I go to Greece on a Lithuanian visa and marry a Greek there on the same visa?
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аватар Pachok
You can go. How to "get married on a visa" I do not quite understand.
аватар Igor_m
They get married either for love or for convenience, for a visa - I have never met.
аватар andreyvip
If you have a multiple-entry Lithuanian visa and have already been rolled back by a trip to Lithuania, then it will also be valid when entering Greece. Both countries are members of the Schengen area.
But the reasons for the refusal by the Greek side are unknown, it cannot be ruled out that you are on their STOP list for some reason, and then you will not be able to enter, the border guards will be deployed.
Since you are already going to get married, then I hope you already know the list of documents that you specifically need to provide for registering a marriage.
If not, then get ready, otherwise you will have an ordinary tourist trip, one desire is not enough to register a marriage.
аватар andreyvip
By the way, the collection of certificates for the last year in Greece itself has become quite dreary and costly, all pieces of paper have become paid, the period for their issuance is quite extended. If you have a mutual desire, then in terms of both guarantees and simplification of registration in Greece, sign at the beginning with the Greek at home. With a certificate from home, all procedures in Greece will go much faster and easier.
аватар viplady86
Were at the consulate together with the Greek for the first time Pulidis said that he refused because he doubted a hundred I work in Ukraine said in 3 months he would give a visa 100% applied for the second promised for a couple Pulidis and Lapas that they would give a visa only plane tickets, you need to buy all bought refused I went to the consulate again La Paz says the Greek doesn’t have money to invite me and he has 1700 € every month for a tax. When they raised the papers and I showed them to them, La Paz says don’t come again even if you apply for a visa every day I will put a refusal .. They said that we want to sign ... They still don’t give them a visa, I think they can call in Lithuanian, but the question is whether they write me in Greece, since the visa will not be Greek (we have already collected everything about the documents for a long time) and at home it’s also dumb to sign, suddenly this Lapas, together with Pulidis, won’t let you go back, they are some kind of frostbitten there, by God, last year they issued non-stop multi visas, and here since February of this year two refusals
аватар andreyvip
Unfortunately, over the past year, all Schengen countries have greatly tightened entry requirements and greatly increased the rejection rate for Ukrainians.
Then the Greek of your very low income is declared (1700), this is not enough even for 2 pensioners, they have pensions from 800. Accordingly, you get a level less than the pension for two.
As I understand it, you do not have a Lithuanian visa, otherwise the situation with obtaining a second Schengen visa with the first one not closed is generally incomprehensible.
If there is a fresh stamp on the refusal of the passport, there is a high probability of refusal from Lithuania.
But even if you receive a Lithuanian Schengen visa with an unrolled visa through Lithuania, 90% that you will not be allowed into Greece
I don’t know how in Ukraine, but in Russia if there was a refusal, then quarantine is usually for 1 year, during this period you can not try to apply for a Schengen visa
In any case, I recommend formally submitting documents for the "Appeal" if you really and for your part have collected all the necessary documents and the Greek has done everything right. If everything is fine with you and the Greek has enough money to support himself, at home and you, according to the norms, then you can be given a visa or at least quarantine will be lifted and you will have the opportunity to apply for travel to other countries without any problems.
аватар andreyvip
to other countries. There will be a chance to go the long way.
In general, it seems to me that you should have initially taken a slightly longer, but reliable path.
- Collect all necessary documents from both sides.
- You buy a normal tour to a normal hotel and fly to rest without mentioning your Greek anywhere.
- During the rest, formalize your relationship
- without violating the visa regime to return home from a tourist trip
- and after that you could deal with a residence permit from both sides
аватар viplady86
Thank you very much )))
аватар Galina50
andreyvip, do you think that during the rest and in Greece 1-2 weeks you can urgently get married? I doubt it... It's not Las Vegas or even Denmark.
аватар andreyvip
Galina50 - What does it mean to get married in 1-2 weeks, during which time they simply register and play a wedding in Greece, at the time of the spouse's rest, this time, even taking into account the errors, is quite enough.
I wrote that at the beginning, both parties collect all the necessary documents for marriage registration. Further, these documents will need to be sent to Greece for the needy husband, and he will submit a complete set to the municipality for the needy registration. This does not mean that you need to immediately go to Greece, after submitting the documents, the date of registration will be known, and this is the time you need to take a tour.
Do I have to write step by step instructions.
I think the poor spouses themselves can make a little effort and study what is needed to register a marriage, what are the deadlines for consideration, and so on.
I just suggested an algorithm of actions, not instructions for action - feel the difference.
аватар 3018886
Maybe it's Pulidis that puts spokes in your wheels?
аватар viplady86
Maybe Pulidis really didn’t like us ... or maybe because of the situation in Ukraine, everything is sad with visas now ...
аватар 3018886
Obviously, the couple Pulidis and Lapas do not like you, but there are no problems with visas in Ukraine, I just got it for a year in the Netherlands without any problems.
аватар andreyvip
Anything is possible, but most likely the situation in Ukraine worries. Fear of mass immigration. In Europe, including Greece, there are already a lot of problems from friends from Africa. They don’t even think about visas at all, they just sail into the country and that’s all ....
аватар andreyvip
3018886 After all, you probably received a visa to the Netherlands as a tourist, and the author, in fact, plans to leave for Greece in the near future, and the Greek side understands this.
The tourist carries money and spends it in the country of arrival, and the migrant, on the contrary, turns out to require state expenses.
For this reason, I also recommended leaving as a tourist for registration, as it will be much easier and only then to deal with the registration of a residence permit.
аватар Pachok
I am also in favor of opening a tourist visa. : I haven't heard of any problems with them.
I thought for a long time who Lapas and Pulidis were, then I looked at my visa :) - "LAPPAS Attache"!
There were no problems with the opening of the tourist one, except for the queue for fingerprinting. But the package of documents was also normal - with all honest references.
And, by the way, why did you get an appointment with the consuls, and not through the EC?
аватар viplady86
We applied through the EC, but when we were refused, we decided to go and personally find out the reason, so we had the “happiness” to personally meet this couple La Paz, a terrible type of boor ... You were lucky that you issued a visa, I noticed with what pleasure he writes "όχι" on papers ...
аватар viplady86
You were just lucky with the girl’s visa at the EC, they told me that many people are denied families who go on vacation now
аватар viplady86
Yes, and on the table of Lapas, 70% of all the documents that I saw had the inscription "όχι"
аватар Pachok
I personally do not know anyone who would be denied by the Greeks this year.
But, I repeat - all my friends go there for tourism purposes and submit a good package of documents with all the certificates: from work, from the bank, etc.
Perhaps the situation is different with potential emigrants.
аватар viplady86
In Greece, there is no fiancee visa, I submit exactly the same package of documents as you, plus an invitation from the Greek and him and my bank statements, and I and he, we are not poor people, I have real estate and he pays a tax of 1700 € every month ( this is a tax on his income) but when Lapaz raised my documents and I showed him that everything is in order with us and asked what other documents to bring, perhaps something is missing, quite politely asked what he was rude to me yelled at and said "whatever documents you don't I wore it and at least every day I applied, I will put refusals "and how can we sign if everyone is traveling on a guest visa and sign already in Greece? (our documents are all normal, I belong to the category of citizens who comply with all the rules), but my strength is gone. . . I'm ready to buy a Lithuanian visa, which is extremely doubtful for me, and go to this Greece through Lithuania. . . Just do not know a hundred to do . . . My strength is no more and there is no limit to resentment and indignation. .. Imagine what it's like to ride back and forth and dream of getting married and living in peace since February, and your fate depends on the personal hostility of two consuls who have megalomania
аватар Pachok
I had in mind exactly the purpose of entry! Well, they don't like that someone will move in and stay :(
Have you tried filing an appeal? Or a complaint? Is there any guidance for them? Perhaps your fiancé should apply to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Greece?
аватар viplady86
Yes, he’s waiting for the lawyer to return from vacation and what he will advise ... Of course, it’s good to complain, but whether the complaint reaches the right place is not a fact, they have everything there exactly the same way as we all have everything seized from everyone everywhere everyone can complain hush up ... We think maybe they will sign in Ukraine, but again, I will have to ask for a visa again from the same Lapas and Pulidis, but only in the status of a wife, and after everything I’ve experienced, I’m afraid that they won’t even give such a visa ... In general, I’m just in a panic .. That's why the idea came to bypass them and go through another country...
аватар 3018886
... with pleasure he writes "όχι" on papers ... apparently he voted for Tsipras
аватар viplady86
One hundred percent communist is still the same))))))
аватар Igor_m
Love will conquer everything - both Lapas and Tsipras ... I wish you happiness!
аватар viplady86
Thanks )))
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