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Should I take an accompanying guide to buy a fur coat?
On the Internet, I found offers of services from guides living in Greece, who offer a transfer to the factories of Kastoria and help in choosing a fur coat. They write that they allegedly make a big discount. Has anyone used their services, what do you think - can they really help bring down the price? In general, who has already taken fur coats in Greece, tell me - I don’t understand such a moment - there are already price tags on the products, why do people buy the same models of fur coats for different prices (judging by the reviews)?
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8 subscribers  • asked 2013-01-0212 years ago
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аватар Pachok
The lowest price will be if you come to the factory yourself. But, of course, you need to know exactly where to go and navigate the prices. The price tags contain numbers from the ceiling, they have nothing to do with the real price. Guides offering transfers and "assistance" have their own commission from your purchase and a very decent one. Of course, the price will be lower than on the price tag, this is supposedly their "discount". But, as you understand, they are interested in you buying more expensive, the size of the commission depends on this. It is optimal to take into the company the same tourist who has already been, bought and, in general, understands fur.
аватар orbittours.ru
the price of a fur coat depends on how someone knows how to bargain. and the true guide will have a percentage of your purchase. my friend bought a mink coat with an initial price of 3000 for 400, so .......... haggle!
аватар NatashaS
orbittours, if this: "my friend bought a mink coat with an initial price of 3000 for 400" - it was in Greece, then I don’t believe it, it’s not possible there, unless, of course, we are talking about a mink fur coat.
аватар sigur62
You can take a guide if you want to overpay.
A little about our fur-shopping here:
http://www.turpravda.com/gr/halkidiki/Aegean_Blue_Hotel-h27212-r41399.html
orbittours, and I laughed when I read about the price of 400)))
New Year's joke?
аватар spichak
I looked at the prices for fur coats from Mouzenidis on the site - a one-piece blackglam mink coat from 3500 euros, brown from 2700 euros. Prices from the guide's website for a long one-piece blackglam fur coat up to 7000 euros, for a brown one up to 5000 euros.
Connoisseurs (experienced buyers), furriers and other people who know the business - where is the truth ?! What price to count on, because if I bargain, then I must at least approximately know the true price of the product and strive to buy for this money. Moreover, it was said here that the cost on the price tags is indicated from the ceiling.
I am interested in a long solid mink dark color of the classic model.
аватар sigur62
Do not read Mouzenidis sites)))
In fur salons, sellers themselves often quietly name the maximum price of a fur coat, to which you can go down in the auction, the main thing is that the owner of the salon is not nearby. It is also important that the Greeks trade, and in no case Russians, it has been noticed that Russian-speaking sellers have more expensive fur coats, smaller portions in cafes, and worse food. The Greeks do not like to haggle, they are not Turks or Arabs, so they usually immediately name the maximum sale price, which is twice as low as indicated on the price tag.
Do not be afraid of anything, everything will work out for you)))
аватар Pachok
The price of a fur coat depends on the quality of the fur, it cannot be said that such and such costs exactly so much.
You are in Russia, I don’t know what your prices are, in Ukraine it’s like this - from the price of our market the normal price is 30% lower, from the salon price - twice. Those. if in Petrovka we have a fur coat of 3000 dollars, then the normal price for the same in Greece is 1500-2000. This is retail and without "acquaintance". There are other options to buy even cheaper, but I personally do not know them.
And I completely agree with sigur62 - as soon as a Russian seller / owner of a store, cafe, agency looms on the horizon - prices are immediately higher, and not only in Greece.
аватар sigur62
Pack, Happy New Year!
It was within this framework that we met when we bought a fur coat in Kalikratia: autolady, blacklam - 1700 or 1800 euros, I don’t remember. Still like 1800.
аватар Pachok
And Happy New Year to you!
аватар sigur62
Thanks)))
I'll add more for TS.
In Greece, you will always meet experienced shoppers who carry these fur coats 10 - 12 at a time, and even at the airport they wear them for transportation through customs for those who fly empty.
Get to know us and we will help you make the right choice.
Happy shopping!
аватар spichak
Thanks everyone for the replies and advice :)
I want to ask sigur62: do you recommend Kallikratia, because you yourself were the only ones there, or is there accurate information that Kastoria is more expensive and the quality is worse? I just read in one of the reviews that the Greeks don’t even go to Kallikratia for the weekend, the atmosphere of a human anthill and nature are not very good. I am going for the first time - I want to combine relaxation and shopping, it is important for me that the place of rest is pleasant, calm. At first I planned to stop in Kastoria for a few days, take my time looking for a fur coat, and then relax on the coast for a week. Is it a normal option or is it still better for the first time to stay in Kallikratia or Paralia Katerinis to kill two birds with one stone, rest and make a purchase?
аватар sigur62
Good afternoon.
Kalikratia didn’t seem like an anthill to us at all)))
Which is definitely cheaper, I will not argue. We liked buying there for a different reason, I wrote about it in my review: when there is an opportunity to wander several evenings from salon to salon, calmly choose and ask the price, then there is less chance of making a mistake in choosing. Our hotel neighbors traveled from Kalikratia to Kastoria (they hired a minibus for several families), and of all only one couple bought a fur coat in Kastoria, the rest bought in the same place as we did - in Nea Kalikratia. Returnees complained about the rush, the control and pressure of the guide, and the high prices. That's how it was with us, and you decide and choose. Good luck!
аватар aleg_80
Good evening. Should I take an accompanying guide? Let me tell you - it's worth it! But only if this guide really understands furs, will be able to determine the quality of the fur, its density, dyed fur or not, how old this fur is, well, he should know approximately how much this or that fur coat costs, including all costs! There aren't many guides like this! As for where it is more profitable to buy a fur coat - In Kastoria or in Kalikratia, then I can answer with accuracy that it is cheaper in Kastoria like nowhere else! After all, in Kastoria, all the factories (not dealers) It's just that there are small nuances here. . . Greeks like all nations want to earn! So. .. When tour operators bring fur coats, tour operators have their own high rate for each fur product, and people take fur coats! The manufacturers decided that if people take fur coats for such crazy money with a tour operator, then they will take it without him! Therefore, do not reduce prices when people travel on their own! It is precisely at this moment that a good, qualified guide is needed to evaluate the purchase! If anyone has any questions, please get in touch! I have been in the fur business for many years! Happy New Year everyone and Merry Christmas!
аватар Pachok
"It is at this moment that a good, qualified guide is needed to evaluate the purchase!"
And so that he himself receives an operator margin :)))
аватар aleg_80
I don't see anything funny! The factories do not give an extra charge to guides as they give a tour to operators!
аватар sigur62
Bugaga, but I see)))
Probably because I'm not a fur coat guide)))
Pachok, not in the eyebrow, but in the nose)))
аватар aleg_80
Well, yes ... as they say - the law is not written for fools! You write to people what and how, and they are here bugagakakatsya in 50 years!
аватар Pachok
Fools - who believe the "guides". I repeat once again - any "guide" is interested in the buyer buying more expensive.
аватар An-28
I went for a fur coat in Kastoria with a guide and was very pleased. They gave me a good price and a cool blaklam fur coat. He knew about which factory what prices and what quality. I myself would not dare to go one of Halkidiki to Kastoria.
аватар Pachok
Yes? And what kind of animal "blaklama"?
аватар An-28
it's an american mink
аватар professional78
With a Russian-speaking guide, you need to go to Kastoria so that you are not fooled! All the same, people are professionals, they know their business, and they can tell you where, what and how.
аватар Pachok
An-28 (aka professional78), don't be stupid. The American mink is blackglama, not "blaklama". Guides are very good at suggesting a store or "factory" with which they have the maximum percentage. This is their main function.
Z.Y. Funny. The next newly registered guide should ask "can you tell me the coordinates of such a wonderful professional?" And the An-28 should answer "yes, of course, here they are ...."
аватар professional78
Pachok, you have nothing to do? Go for a walk, maybe you take your percentage for each comment, since you have no business and sit from morning to evening on the forum!
аватар Pachok
What are you doing here at the beginning of the first night? Drink some water, calm down and read a book about proper marketing. So that in the next one it’s so stupid not to screw up advertising on a respected resource.
аватар sigur62
Pachok, good morning!
You, too, understand these professionals in blaklam, the guys also want to earn money, since there is nowhere else ...
аватар Serega12061
I'm amazed by people from Russia who buy fur coats in Greece for big money. There are a huge number of fur factories in Russia, in the same Pyatigorsk there are about 60 of them, and the prices are very pleasant and the choice is huge. I bought a marten for my wife in Pyatigorsk, they were very satisfied. Guide found on this portal

http://xn----7sbhj1aie2e.xn--p1ai/
, its cost was 500 rubles
аватар alexmanru
Of course it is worth going to the factory accompanied.
There are a number of reasons:
Why is it so? Why do tourists buy more expensive fur coats when they come to Kastoria themselves?
This is due to the fact that the fur coat is purchased at retail prices,
After all, you ended up at the factory by chance, due to the fact that:
Passed by, seeing a presentable facade - a showcase,
Read the advert on the internet.
Walk on your own, but arrived with a fur coat tour. After the purchase, the organizers call the factory and ask to invest in the costs of organizing the tour, so this amount is also taken into account in the cost, even if you assure the manufacturer of your complete independence from any obligations. All manufacturers had enough such punctures, so they would not want to sell you a fur coat at a price for which they would then have to pay extra out of their own pocket. A priori, your possible participation in the fur coat tour is taken into account.
There are factories that do not have exhibition pavilions and do not pay additional costs for the maintenance of sellers, space, and goods.
аватар alexmanru
Therefore, when you enter the exhibition pavilion at the factory, by default it is considered that you come to the store at the factory. And this is already reflected in the pricing policy. Do not be offended, because the manufacturers who decided to arrange retail sales in their production have invested quite well in this enterprise. One of the latest new such pavilions spent about 1 million euros to organize retail sales in a new, prominent location and partially relocate production. This is evidenced by a plate with information about the budget and the amount of subsidies that this company received from the European Union.
аватар alexmanru
And when accompanied, you visit the factory and purchase what we, as regular customers, buy from a particular manufacturer not for the first time, and therefore, we are considered regular customers, which has a beneficial effect on the final price - it has been checked many times!
Sales of fur coats at each factory are always mentioned, if there are such. You can easily ascertain the difference in prices for fur coats that is favorable for you by comparing the price for which you buy your fur coat with the price for which your friend bought it, possibly at the same factory. In addition, you can resolve any issues after the purchase through us and this is perhaps no less important than the price.
Another very important nuance to go with someone who is "local" is the fact that the quality may be good, but you can’t immediately determine how long this fur has lain in the sun or in dampness (if it doesn’t smell, it’s does not mean that everything was ok). They will not sell low-grade fur to "their own". Since this will affect the future amusement of the escort.
On the other hand, there are guides of different levels, there are those who don’t really care about your well-being, they just do the wrong job, taking a day off from the main one.
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