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Good afternoon ! In June, I'm going to Crete with friends and children. Let's go for the first time. We would like to rent a car. Do I need to issue an international driver's license (I have an old laminated one). Thanks in advance for your help.
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аватар sigur62
A very frequently asked question. Read here:
http://www.turpravda.com/gr/malija/question-29960.html
There is a lot of talk about it. In general, make an IDP, you will not regret it. Have a nice rest!
аватар Viltis
I personally rented a car in Crete, Rethymnon, in September 2008. the rights are "Soviet", issued back in 1994, the husband has the rights of the 1992 model. There were no problems with getting the car. With DDP, there were no problems either, everything was sorted out in 10-15 minutes, I paid a franchise - 150 euros.
I will change my license this year, but not because I'm afraid that they won't give me a car, but because the Soviet-style license will soon go out of circulation.
My daughter has new, laminated driving licenses, the name is written in Latin there, she received them in 2006 in Kyiv, on Tupolev street. They don't need to be changed. I’ll tell you more, Tupolev doesn’t understand at all what an international driver’s license is :-) What companies offer is a form that must be shown along with your license.
I personally consider such forms to be a wiring and a completely unnecessary waste of money. But that's my personal opinion.
аватар hatinka
In Ukraine, you will get an IDP FIG. Yes, they are needed. Yes, even in Ukraine there are laws and the IDL form is approved (recently even changes were made to it), but they do not issue it. But you will not be able to issue them, also in Belarus. They are simply not issued. You can talk about this topic, but to no avail. Drive very carefully and you will be happy ;-)
And traffic cops, Viltis, do not know very many of their own laws, regulations, listings, etc.
Nowhere, except for the traffic police, you cannot get an IDL. This is a scammer. With the same success, you yourself can print your rights at home, translate them into any languages ​​and laminate them. Only for free)))
аватар sigur62
I sympathize with you, brothers - Slavs. We have no problems with obtaining an IDP.
аватар Viltis
hatinka, if you want to get this form, just contact any travel agency. And they will make them for you for a little hryvnia (up to 1000) and a little time. But you need to present this piece of paper to law enforcement agencies in Europe together with your rights, it is useless separately. This applies to all owners of so-called international rights, regardless of their residence, citizenship and religion :-)
GAI officers know the laws :-), it's just that this form does not apply to them in any way. They are not responsible for it and are not obliged to issue it. It is not regulated by any law. GAI officers issue national rights, of our country, dubbed into English, but national. And why should they be given rights .. for example, the Republic of the Congo?
аватар Viltis
sigur62, I don't want to upset you, but in Russia the situation is the same as in other countries of the former Soviet Union.
Currently, it is not issued on the territory of the Russian Federation, due to the fact that the Goznak factory has not yet issued a sample of this certificate. There are proposals from private companies to acquire allegedly an IDL in the form of a set of a book and a plastic card. In fact, this is just a translation of the national WU, which is not an official document, and, accordingly, has no legal force.
In Belarus, the same story.
аватар hatinka
Viltis, you don't understand me ;-) Everything that travel agencies, clubs, associations and others publish is pure linden. In Fig, it is who needs it.
And there are laws ;-)
Resolution of the Cabinet of Ministers, current, a bunch of changes and related documents. There you can find a sample form. But there is also this:
33. An international driver's license is issued at the request of an individual by a unit of the State Traffic Inspectorate on the basis of a national driver's license.
Not obligated, you say? It is obligatory, but at my request. And who demanded in writing? Everyone came, asked, no, and what do you want, I'll give you a TV show, and ours is so international ...
In general, your idea of ​​MVU is somewhat wrong)))
There would be more time to start correspondence with them. I started with a lot of people, I was always right and a little forced to turn on the brain. GAI officers in general are ridiculous to the horror, especially not road, and chair;
аватар hatinka
Link to Rada http://zakon3.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/340-93-%D0%BF
аватар hatinka
Link to the changes in the form in March 2012. The form is changing, money is being cut, and we are without an IDL
http://www.day.kiev.ua/3046593
аватар Viltis
It's you who don't understand me.
I'm better:
1. Now no one officially issues an IDL. Nobody and nowhere. Its form has not really been approved at all. They don't even list where they live.
2. Nobody needs it anywhere. It's just a translation of your ID into 12 languages. All. It (IDP) does not have legal force, which is why it is useless without a valid driver's license.
I confirm the second point from the personal use of vehicles in Europe throughout .. well, what has happened since 1994? :-) And I had more than one accident in Europe.
But again, I won't argue. To make this form for yourself or not is a personal matter for everyone. As for me, the paper is absolutely useless, but .. for shame, to brag to my friends - it’s the most :-)
so let everyone decide for himself.
аватар hatinka
In Ukraine, there is no choice to do or not to do. Fuck you do it, because)))
So this is not a revelation that the IDP is a book of the established form with translation into other languages. And it only works in conjunction with national laws. It's obvious. Only one thing - without an IDP in a number of countries, the national rights of a number of other countries are not valid.
This is Ukraine, here everything is through the train. But we got used to it and even rejoice. Well, we don’t have the necessary document, so we don’t need it. So it's useless ;-)
аватар Viltis
hatinka, if you are so worried about the translation of your rights, make it, notarize it and ride calmly :-) There is no difference.
We drove with Soviet rights for 20 years, in 1995 we drove two cars from Germany, there were no problems with our rights. And it will not, just like with Lithuanian rights in Ukraine, like my father. Since rights cannot be invalidated, this translation of rights is not valid without them, yes.
You now hate Ukraine .. but I'm wondering if citizens of other states transfer their rights to MOV? How do you think?:-))
It won't even occur to them.
But again, I repeat, you can transfer your rights, no one can forbid you to do this.
In general, I think that these "mvu" are another wiring to replenish the treasury .. it's not clear just whose :-)
аватар sigur62
My friends, I'm tired of chewing on the same topic. However. The truth is more important. So, especially for the hard-nosed, who consider the IDP a scam and a waste of money.
From the magazine "Autoreview" No. 14 (477) for 2011. The publication is very respected and authoritative by me.
“We contacted representatives of the international rental companies Hertz and Avis. So, Western distributors are sure that Russians must have an IDP in all European countries! True, they immediately stipulate that there are several countries where international rights are “well, absolutely mandatory.” For example, in Italy, even though it signed the convention, the Italian embassy told us that the fine for not having an IDP in the country is from 300 euros!”
аватар sigur62
Countries that have signed the UN Vienna Convention on Road Traffic of November 8, 1968
Austria
Bahamas
Bahrain
Belarus
Belgium
Bulgaria
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Brazil
United Kingdom
Hungary
Venezuela
Guyana
Ghana
Germany
Greece
Georgia
Denmark
Zaire
Zimbabwe
Israel
Indonesia
Iran
Spain
Italy
Kazakhstan
Costa Rica
Ivory Coast
Cuba
Kuwait
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Macedonia
Morocco
Mexico
Moldova
Monaco
Niger
Norway
Pakistan
Poland
Portugal
The Republic of Korea
Russia
Romania
San Marino
Seychelles
Senegal
Serbia
Slovakia
Slovenia
Tajikistan
Thailand
Turkmenistan
Uzbekistan
Ukraine
Uruguay
Philippines
Finland
France
Croatia
CAR
Montenegro
Czech Republic
Chile
Switzerland
Sweden
Ecuador
Estonia
South Africa
Formally, in these countries you can drive with any national rights
аватар Viltis
sigur62, you are rude but wrong. Maybe that's why you're being rude.
But something else amuses me here, both of my opponents do not have an IDP :-) And yet they drive abroad by car, and?
Argument for the sake of argument..
useless activity. especially when you are rude out of the blue, a person whom I do not know at all.
аватар Vadim32
Last year I had a rest in Rethymno aquila, rented a car, drove on Russian rights. The guy from the rental said "just don't drive drunk and faster than 100 km/h, if they stop call me and give them the phone" :) And when you take the car - bargain! I took a BMW five knocking down the price by 2 times.
аватар Viltis
There's also an important number of days at the box office. If more than 7, then the price almost doubles. By the way, it’s better not to take big cars :-) It’s better to have a small one, it’s more economical, because it’s expensive to refuel and wash more expensive, but you need to wash it every day .., and besides, Crete doesn’t always have gasoline. If there is a strike and the next ship does not come, then the fuel is on the island of yok. Felt it on day 10.
Ideally, take a convertible jeep .. suzuki jimmy is a great car. And it will pass through all the mountains, both economical and cool :-) Mountain roads are narrow and steep, it is also important to have power so that when the radio and air conditioning are on, the car can climb a steep hill. The road from Agios Nikolaos to Vai is so extreme that a special car is needed there. Small, powerful.
To the author, must-see places: Lake Kourna, Vai beach, Gramvousa, Heraklion with Knossos, Chania, Rethymnon with its fortress. Well, the water park, you are with the kids :-)
If you have specific questions about traveling around Crete by car, write in a personal, I will tell you everything in detail. I rode there for two weeks, got into an accident .. once :-) The markings there are not very good. Yes, and driving in cities is horror .. especially Chania.
аватар sigur62
Yes, even if you drive without a license, what are the problems? Just don't make it the norm that everyone should do exactly as you do, that's all. And in Russia and Ukraine you can drive without a license. For the time being. Have a nice rest!
аватар Viltis
sigur62, why are you so nervous? It's not worth a damn. Isn't it a question of rights? And in their translation. No one canceled the rights, even in the presence of an IDP. You behave like a child :-) Well, you drive with a license and without an IDP, and that's okay? Calm down, please, no one here is at war with you, we are not at the barricades.
аватар sigur62
Dear, where did you get the idea that I'm a slob, I, as a law-abiding citizen, have an IDP. They did it for me in less than an hour, without red tape and hassle. When I rented a car in Greece, the distributor was very happy to see the IDP, although he said that he would have given me a car anyway, but it is more correct to drive with the IDP and legally safer in case of emergency. Like this.
аватар Viltis
sigur62, I'm very happy for you!! Have a nice rest:-)
аватар sigur62
And have a good rest! In the Russian Federation, for some reason, obtaining an IDP is completely hassle-free. After I designed, all my friends did, God saves the safe.
A little later I will throw off here a list of countries that have not signed the Vienna Convention, and in which an IDP is mandatory.
аватар Viltis
Did you make an IDP through the traffic police? Strange, but all my friends say that this is practically impossible. Only through firms.
аватар sigur62
I am from Russia, a small border town of Vyborg.
1000 rubles of state duty, photo on matte paper, passport, Russian driver's license, the application is signed by the head of the traffic police (I don't know why). I handed over everything, and waited in the corridor for about 40 minutes. The girl invited me, signed, got it, fucked off. That's all there is to it. I myself did not understand why I did not unfasten anyone in excess of the duty. Maybe I'm lucky)))
аватар Viltis
Maybe you got lucky, or maybe you were given the wrong piece of paper. Is there a place of residence? The fact is that there is a lot of controversy about this IDP, its exact form is not yet in nature either in Russia or in other CIS countries. It is not approved by a single sample.
By the way, doesn't the law state that IDPs should be issued at the place of residence by local traffic police, well, as rights, only in the area of ​​registration?
I will not dispute your "legal translation of a driver's license", the main thing is that you like it :-) But to advise someone to go to another area and get documents from people you don't even know .. (I understand that this is not GAI, if you are surprised by the signature of the head of the traffic police) I would not. Although .. you can consider it as an adventure :-) The main thing is peace of mind .. I think so. If you need such a piece of paper, it does not matter who issues it and who signs it.
I wrote the same thing to the "khatynka" that if she needs an IDP, then there is no problem, let her go and do it. business something :-) I'll even throw a bunch of phones and places where it can be done.
But she wants officially, at home, in her native MREU. This is not yet possible, neither with you nor with us.
аватар sigur62
And here is where the IDP is mandatory. These countries have not signed the Vienna Convention.
Countries that have signed the UN Geneva Convention on Road Traffic of September 19, 1949
Australia
Albania
Algeria
Andorra
Argentina
Bangladesh
Belize
Benin
Botswana
Vatican
Haiti
Gambia
Guatemala
Gibraltar
Hong Kong
Grenada
Dominican Republic
Egypt
Western Samoa
India
Jordan
Ireland
Iceland
Cambodia
Canada
Cyprus
Kyrgyzstan
China
Congo
Laos
Lesotho
Lebanon
Mauritania
Madagascar
Malawi
Malaysia
Mali
Malta
Namibia
Netherlands
New Zealand
New Caledonia
Papua New Guinea
Paraguay
Peru
Rwanda
Swaziland
Singapore
Syria
Saint Vincent
and the Grenadines
san lucia
USA
Sierra Leone
Taiwan
Tanzania
Togo
Trinidad and Tobago
Tunisia
Turkey
Uganda
Fiji
French polynesia
Jamaica
Japan
In these countries, you can only drive if you have both national and international rights
аватар sigur62
Nascher "native" MREO. I received an IDP at my place in Vyborg.
аватар Viltis
You never answered, did you receive it in MREO or not? And is there a place of residence, the column is filled?
аватар sigur62
In MREO. In the same window where national rights are also issued, only they don’t take pictures at the IDP, but you come with your photo. Not a place of residence, but a place of issue, a category, a national driver's license number, a photo, everything seems to be.
аватар Viltis
The dispute is just about the form of an IDP, in some there is no place of residence, and in some forms there is. There are several forms of IDP. Do you have a book and a plastic card? Or a laminated ID? And the number of languages ​​is different - 8 and 12 ..
That's exactly why I say that so far there is a mess in all countries with this IDL.
That's when the form will be clearly accepted, the same for all. When the IDP will have legal force and is really mandatory for presentation, and not (it’s more correct with it :-)) And without an IDP it will be ILLEGAL to drive a car like without a driver’s license. And the person will be forced to make them as a passport or the same driver's license. That's when I'll arrange it.
And I won’t replenish someone’s wallet ..
Moreover, the Author asked a specific question: is it possible to use national rights in Crete. and you answered positively (twice), Thank you. And have a good rest!
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