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Please tell me, has anyone traveled to Greece by car?
We want to go with our family to Greece with our own car. We live in Ukraine near the border with Hungary. Has anyone had a similar experience. Where would you recommend to go at the end of October.
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I went to Greece by car. Passed through Hungary, then through Serbia, Macedonia to Greece. What questions are of interest?
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answered 13 years ago
we are going to Rhodes. Are there ferries there - what is the cost. What you need to know - if you go by car. And how is the road?
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answered 13 years ago
Nata_pim, You will not gain much from driving your car this far. It won't be cheap. You considered the option of air + car rental. It is in Greece that one of the cheapest rentals in Europe.
Especially not in season.
You also need a multivisa in any case:
1. If Hungary + Serbia + Macedonia + Greece, then you need a cartoon + Serbian visa.
Macedonian visas seem to have already been canceled, but just in case, the link:
http://www.mfa.gov.ua/data/upload/news/macedonia/ua/43341/visa_free.jpg
Official Official Gazette of Macedonia. Print it out and take it with you just in case the border guard has doubts about the abolition of visas for Ukrainians.
It seems that even before the Macedonians gave a multi-Schengen transit without a Macedonian visa.
But! Roads of Serbia Can you imagine? The country is mountainous, highways are not everywhere. Their highways are like ours. Do you feel sorry for the car?
2. There is an option to go through Romania + Bulgaria + Greece. I'm not sure that the roads will be better there, Romania is also a mountainous country. But enough multischengen. After all, both Romanians and Bulgarians provide visa-free transit with a Schengen visa.
It is possible through Turkey too.
But! It's so far away. And on Rhodes itself, there is nowhere to turn around by car.
Ferries are available http://www.ferries.gr/
Especially not in season.
You also need a multivisa in any case:
1. If Hungary + Serbia + Macedonia + Greece, then you need a cartoon + Serbian visa.
Macedonian visas seem to have already been canceled, but just in case, the link:
http://www.mfa.gov.ua/data/upload/news/macedonia/ua/43341/visa_free.jpg
Official Official Gazette of Macedonia. Print it out and take it with you just in case the border guard has doubts about the abolition of visas for Ukrainians.
It seems that even before the Macedonians gave a multi-Schengen transit without a Macedonian visa.
But! Roads of Serbia Can you imagine? The country is mountainous, highways are not everywhere. Their highways are like ours. Do you feel sorry for the car?
2. There is an option to go through Romania + Bulgaria + Greece. I'm not sure that the roads will be better there, Romania is also a mountainous country. But enough multischengen. After all, both Romanians and Bulgarians provide visa-free transit with a Schengen visa.
It is possible through Turkey too.
But! It's so far away. And on Rhodes itself, there is nowhere to turn around by car.
Ferries are available http://www.ferries.gr/
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answered 13 years ago
Pay attention to your insurance, which you will have to do. Check with insurers or ferry companies to see if insurance is valid on ferries. If you will be taking the ferry from Chalkidiki, which is far enough away, try to take out separate insurance. As a rule, the green card is not valid on ferries.
Tell me, this is Vashcha's first independent trip by car abroad. Because your question "What you need to know - if you go by car" suggests that you are not very experienced in such trips. But, the route you have chosen is quite difficult to organize even for experienced ones. First, it's far. Second, there are many countries with different visa requirements. Rhodes is an island, and this is a serious anchor under steam.
If the purpose of a trip on your own car (not on a rental car in Rhodes) is to save money, then, I'm afraid, it makes no sense. If the purpose of the trip is the trip itself by car, sightseeing other city-countries besides Rhodes, then you can try.
It is also worth clarifying the heights of your route, especially a trip back to the mountains in November, there is a high probability of snow, ice, etc. That is, winter tires, chains. But it all depends on your itinerary!
Tell me, this is Vashcha's first independent trip by car abroad. Because your question "What you need to know - if you go by car" suggests that you are not very experienced in such trips. But, the route you have chosen is quite difficult to organize even for experienced ones. First, it's far. Second, there are many countries with different visa requirements. Rhodes is an island, and this is a serious anchor under steam.
If the purpose of a trip on your own car (not on a rental car in Rhodes) is to save money, then, I'm afraid, it makes no sense. If the purpose of the trip is the trip itself by car, sightseeing other city-countries besides Rhodes, then you can try.
It is also worth clarifying the heights of your route, especially a trip back to the mountains in November, there is a high probability of snow, ice, etc. That is, winter tires, chains. But it all depends on your itinerary!
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answered 13 years ago
http://www.greecetoday.ru/home/articles/27/
there are also ferry companies, there are no small ones here.
See only cargo-passenger.
I managed to find only 1 company operating in October, but it is from Athens (Piraeus port). Auto - 100 euros, adults - 56 the cheapest class, children up to 10l - 50% - 28 euros. One way.
I didn't find anything from Thessaloniki.
But there are ferries from Turkey to Rhodes-Bodrum, Marmaris. Only now the prices for these ferries are comparable to the prices from Athens. And going to Marmaris is a dubious pleasure ;-)
Do not consider options with transfers from ferry to ferry at all.
Looks logical just through Athens - it's both faster and more real. The distance from Athens to Thessaloniki is about 600 km, it is passed quickly, 6-7 hours.
If you calculate Coastal Rhodes through Athens, then Google meps gives 32 hours of pure time on the road within the framework of traffic rules. No customs, no stops, no waiting to board the ferry. That is, it is at least three days on the road, although I would even call a minimum of 4 days. One way. In both - 7-8.
The air option to Crete + car rental in Rhodes seems to me a more interesting option. But this is my personal opinion, I can not impose on you ;-)
there are also ferry companies, there are no small ones here.
See only cargo-passenger.
I managed to find only 1 company operating in October, but it is from Athens (Piraeus port). Auto - 100 euros, adults - 56 the cheapest class, children up to 10l - 50% - 28 euros. One way.
I didn't find anything from Thessaloniki.
But there are ferries from Turkey to Rhodes-Bodrum, Marmaris. Only now the prices for these ferries are comparable to the prices from Athens. And going to Marmaris is a dubious pleasure ;-)
Do not consider options with transfers from ferry to ferry at all.
Looks logical just through Athens - it's both faster and more real. The distance from Athens to Thessaloniki is about 600 km, it is passed quickly, 6-7 hours.
If you calculate Coastal Rhodes through Athens, then Google meps gives 32 hours of pure time on the road within the framework of traffic rules. No customs, no stops, no waiting to board the ferry. That is, it is at least three days on the road, although I would even call a minimum of 4 days. One way. In both - 7-8.
The air option to Crete + car rental in Rhodes seems to me a more interesting option. But this is my personal opinion, I can not impose on you ;-)
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answered 13 years ago
And the last. Auto + ferry + insurance + road fees will turn out to be about 950 euros for 2 adults + 1 child up to 10 years old.
This is without visas, transit hotels, fines (not a fact, but why not?), parking and deviations from the route. If divided by 3, then 316 euros. If charters to Crete are lower, then driving a car is generally pointless. Loss of time.
This is without visas, transit hotels, fines (not a fact, but why not?), parking and deviations from the route. If divided by 3, then 316 euros. If charters to Crete are lower, then driving a car is generally pointless. Loss of time.
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answered 13 years ago
The road in Hungary is good, but in Serbia there are already problems - there were a lot of repairs (I went that autumn), in Macedonia the road there is good - unbearable back. Refuel at well-known gas stations, in Serbia Omv, for example, in Macedonia on the highways filled with lukoil.
there were not many people on the border between Hungary and Serbia, but we still had to stand. I did not make a separate visa for Serbia, because I have a residence permit in CZ. There were more people on the Serbia-Macedonia border, and more than an hour was spent on the Macedonia-Greece border.
there were not many people on the border between Hungary and Serbia, but we still had to stand. I did not make a separate visa for Serbia, because I have a residence permit in CZ. There were more people on the Serbia-Macedonia border, and more than an hour was spent on the Macedonia-Greece border.
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answered 13 years ago
I appeal to those who silently minus - write your point of view on a car trip to Rhodes and correct my mistakes ;-)
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answered 13 years ago
For the trip you need a Greencard, it is better to have travel insurance, but I have never been asked for it personally, the police ask for a car periodically at the borders, and so on.
In Serbia, you have to be careful on the roads, the local police are outrageous like in Russia in the 90s :) but otherwise everything is fine, the roads are certainly not a fountain, but I drove my Sedan back and forth and drove from Russia and everything is fine - an incredible experience - So much has happened, it's been an adventure!
In Greece, the roads are better, much better - though Athens is a passion, the Greeks and there are Greeks, the law is not written for them, With denouements, too, everything is not entirely clear at first, then you will get used to it and it will be fine. From Athens, I sailed to Crete with the company minos.gr. The ferry departs not from Athens, but from the City near Piraeus (as well as the name of the port itself) to sail for 6 hours, it was not specially insured, show off tickets with insurance. In Athens, the time difference is an hour, not 2 as in the nearest European countries. I almost missed the ferry because of this difference :) I didn’t keep track of the time.
In Serbia, you have to be careful on the roads, the local police are outrageous like in Russia in the 90s :) but otherwise everything is fine, the roads are certainly not a fountain, but I drove my Sedan back and forth and drove from Russia and everything is fine - an incredible experience - So much has happened, it's been an adventure!
In Greece, the roads are better, much better - though Athens is a passion, the Greeks and there are Greeks, the law is not written for them, With denouements, too, everything is not entirely clear at first, then you will get used to it and it will be fine. From Athens, I sailed to Crete with the company minos.gr. The ferry departs not from Athens, but from the City near Piraeus (as well as the name of the port itself) to sail for 6 hours, it was not specially insured, show off tickets with insurance. In Athens, the time difference is an hour, not 2 as in the nearest European countries. I almost missed the ferry because of this difference :) I didn’t keep track of the time.
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answered 13 years ago
Quote: With interchanges, too, everything is not entirely clear at first, then you will get used to it and it will be fine.
And I liked the roads in Greece, there are always enough signs, there are markings. What was not clear about it? True, we always travel with ZHPS and we rarely have misunderstandings. With ZHPS it is much easier.
And I liked the roads in Greece, there are always enough signs, there are markings. What was not clear about it? True, we always travel with ZHPS and we rarely have misunderstandings. With ZHPS it is much easier.
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And no one says that the roads in Greece are bad
But with interchanges, it’s not that, but somehow I got very confused at first, I don’t understand why, but each city has its own driving characteristics and you quickly get used to some, and some time you need to get used to - that’s exactly what happened in Athens.
But with interchanges, it’s not that, but somehow I got very confused at first, I don’t understand why, but each city has its own driving characteristics and you quickly get used to some, and some time you need to get used to - that’s exactly what happened in Athens.
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GPS is always there, but even if it is available, there are problems - as the traffic rules change periodically - where before it was possible to turn now it is impossible or repair work and the traffic pattern has been changed. So hope for gps, but don't make a mistake yourself :)
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And, you probably were without ZHPS? If not, then it is very difficult)))
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I think it's very far. I traveled to Bulgaria and Romania from Odessa and it took 12 hours. And to go to Greece, I think, three days.
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I appeal to those who silently minus - write your point of view on a car trip to Rhodes and correct my mistakes ;-)
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And why))) It's easier to click on the "minus" ;-)
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And why))) It's easier to click on the "minus" ;-)
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If I'm wrong about something and mislead the topcaster, then we can't keep silent about it! After all, if you didn’t like the answer, that’s one thing. But, if I gave the wrong link or calculation, then this may affect the person's trip.
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Khatinka, and for this answer you were minus))) Ah! By the way, me too!)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Dear children, shoo from the site, this is not a toy for you - to click recklessly on significant keys! =)))
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Khatinka and Biker Oksana, don't pay attention, your answers are exhaustive and will only benefit the topic starter. It's just that some "comrades" have weaknesses, they like to play dirty tricks, if they can't do otherwise, then they just minus, they are satisfied like that ...)))
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We went by ferry from Evpatoria to Zonguldak (Turkey), from there to Greece. They traveled all over the country.
A big plus is that there is no crap with the customs of transit countries, including Ukraine. Evpatoria customs passed in 10 minutes.
The only negative is the night on the ferry in the company of Turkish and Ukrainian truckers. The Turks are fine, but ours got drunk in zyuzyu, obscenity, hubbub, discussion of the problems of the universe behind the bulkhead in the next cabin deep after midnight.
A big plus is that there is no crap with the customs of transit countries, including Ukraine. Evpatoria customs passed in 10 minutes.
The only negative is the night on the ferry in the company of Turkish and Ukrainian truckers. The Turks are fine, but ours got drunk in zyuzyu, obscenity, hubbub, discussion of the problems of the universe behind the bulkhead in the next cabin deep after midnight.
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answered 11 years ago
This is how to scare away from traveling by car! There is a certain amount of adventure in this. We have traveled almost all of Europe. There were also in Serbia, where there were never any problems with the roads! And in Romania, excellent roads have been set up with the desire to join the Schengen. In general - I do not understand why it is dissuaded!
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answered 11 years ago
Details about the route from Kyiv to Halkidiki here http://www.turpravda.com/gr/sitonija/blog-260187.html
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The roads in Serbia are excellent in quality, but a little crooked))) we drove from Kyiv to Montenegro. At what they chose the most, as for me, the most difficult route through Hungary-Croatia (for a glimpse)-Bosnia. Back: Serbia-Romania-Moldova-Ukraine. It was stressful to drive through Bosnia: solid mountains, but Sarajevo left wonderful memories)))
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