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On February 6, my husband and I won a tour from the BAUER company through the Travel Club company
On February 6, my husband and I won a tour from the company BAUER through the company "Travel Club" a trip to the island of Crete. Who went to share information, another divorce or reality.
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аватар alex45
People went through NEKKERMAN, I know and they offered me, but I didn’t want to. I don’t know the BAUER company. Contact the TRAVEL CLUB, what papers, contract
they will show, I don’t think that this is all done in words.
аватар volodimir07
thanks for the answer. We were offered the Malia Beah hotel. who went even from NEKKERMAN even from the Travel Club, respond. we were told that the company pays for the hotel and food ALL and we pay 670y.e for the flight, visa and transfer. from a person. How much does it cost separately for a flight, separately for a transfer, they don’t say separately for a visa. How much can it cost? And they will be fed with leftovers :)) There are no problems with English, but who will need us there7 What should I pay attention to in the contract? What is the minimum amount we should be insured for? then they are not responsible for anything? What powers do they have?
аватар alex45
There are 2 concepts - a tour operator and a travel agency. A travel agency works, as a rule, through
tour operator for a certain percentage. As for the "said", this is not in the market, there must be some kind of proposal to start on paper, where
everything must be agreed in writing. Ask the Travel Club for their documents that give them the right to engage in tourism activities.
this is Greece (Schengen area), you need to apply for visas
going to do or have help from the Travel Club. Flight to Crete-direct communication with Ukraine
no, with transfers means. Transfer in Crete is your concern. My advice is to find a trip to Crete from any
tour operator on their websites and compare prices.
that they offer you a last-minute ticket, this is without a doubt, even without knowing the date of dispatch, I can say, because. not a season. Therefore, if a travel agency takes the hassle for a flight, a transfer around Crete, the preparation of documents for Schengen, this is
maybe an option, but still go to the Turtessa website
аватар alex45
So I went to the site for ordering air tickets www.anywayanyday.com - a flight to Athens and back from Kyiv for two people, approximately the beginning of March, costs 5756 UAH, another flight or even to Crete, all transfers. I don’t know if this is some kind of charter with you or the so-called low-cost flights (budget flights). Find out all this from
travel agent. Read everything you can find about Crete, about this
hotel in Turpravda and think.
аватар alex45
By the way, the reviews on the hotel are not bad, both in terms of food and service. Type "hotels" here, calmly
read about Malia Beach. It took me 5 minutes.
аватар volodimir07
thank you very much for the advice :) They promised to open a visa themselves for the same 670 USD (flight, visa transfer) per person. Regarding the food, I also got a good impression, but the opinions differed by room. When my husband saw pictures of the hotel rooms , he shuddered. Their appearance alerted us. The area around the hotel is certainly not bad. There is still little to compare with: we were only in Egypt (5 *) Sharm el-Sheikh and the United Arab Emirates (4 *) Sharjah and Prague (3 *) (but the hotel is for all 4 *) it’s just super and everything was arranged through Royal Voyage, everything was there and went as promised.
аватар alex45
My advice again. Find out through the tour operator, anyone who works with Crete (this is also
can be found here on Turpravda), how much will it cost
They have Crete now, what hotels they will offer and will be
to see your benefit or not. In principle, the visa for the Greeks is inexpensive, especially since you have Prague, and this is also Schengen, there should be no questions.
аватар volodimir07
THANK YOU
аватар alex45
Glad to be of some help! Write a review if you go
in more detail.
аватар Elena1990
Our trip to Italy from BAUER with Travel Club was scheduled for 3.05.2011.
A group from Kharkov, 5 people, began to prepare for the trip back in November 2010.
The manager of the company, Oleg Tkachuk, spent hours describing the trip to each of us on the phone.
We made an advance payment in December 2010. All Schengen documents were sent
in early March, by courier mail. Then, Tkachuk said that it was necessary to fully pay for the vouchers, on the same day we made the payment. And after that, a completely different attitude began, we
they could not always get through to Oleg, he stopped calling us back. When someone
of us managed to get through, and it was already April, then our questions regarding
submitting documents to the embassy, ​​O. Tkachuk answered "do not worry, everything is in order!"
On April 28, Oleg managed to get through only at 20-00, and to hear that the embassy
we were denied. Well, after that, quite interesting things began to happen. Phone
the manager stopped answering at all, I had to call the hotlines, demand
return of documents and money. Representatives of the Travel Club reported that Tkachuk was fired
and it is not yet known who is dealing with our documents. And here we are, 5 people, from 10-00 to 19-00, from April 29 to 5-6 times called the Travel Club, at this
аватар Elena1990
in this company, no one introduced himself to us, did not give their names and positions, the phone number of the director of the company Polishchuk A.G. and the accountant to us
They categorically refused to give us the documents. The documents were sent to us after May 3, and we could make sure that they did not reach the embassy.
Our further calls to return the money did not bring any results, and only
after we announced that we would contact the law enforcement agencies, we were finally returned the money on May 17th.
We are outraged by this attitude of the Travel Club company. Not only are we half a year
fooled their heads, spoiled the holidays that we were going to spend in Italy. Since March 28
none of us got a call, not a single representative of the company apologized, did not offer
no moral or material compensation.
I don't know if anyone else would want to do business with such an unreliable firm, we definitely don't.
With outrage:
Verbovskaya E.V.
Bvrzman E.M.
Verbovskaya D.E.
Roslyakova I.V.
Lapteva E.E.
аватар alex45
As far as I know, in order to obtain Schengen visas, specifically for Italy, you need a personal presence at the visa center, so the divorce apparently began already at the stage of issuing visas and pre-payment. The money during this time was scrolled repeatedly.
аватар volodimir07
thank you very much gentlemen Verbovskaya E.V., Berzman E.M., Verbovskaya D.E., Roslyakova I.V., Lapteva E.E. for your answer. Everyone should know about such firms and their "gifts". In order not to fall for the bait of such dealers. We gave our ticket to one big "law enforcement" rachalnik, but have not yet asked how it all ended there. I think he will quickly "pull" them, well, rightly so.
аватар laberint
I have a ticket for two. I want to take my 10-year-old daughter instead of my husband, and the agency said that we need to go two adults + a child, then it’s profitable. What is the difference, instead of a husband, a daughter will go? And excursions will be the place of the daughter ...
аватар Nura11
At the presentation, Bauer was bred mainly by pensioners, offering installments, loans, appealing that they neglect the health of loved ones, etc. There is a lot of pressure on them during breaks, they are directly forced to purchase products, citing the fact that they have come here and are already obliged to shop! The documents are generally fawn, I asked to show the contract, there is no smell of Germany there! Sharaga is registered in the name of an individual and it is registered in Gorlovka, Donetsk region! Moreover, on the letterhead, the legal address is Kyiv, but on the Gorlavka signet, this is not possible! They have neither the conclusions of the examinations of the Ministry of Health, nor the hygienic periods of operation documented! Only in words! About the ticket in general a divorce! in any normal travel agency, a ticket costs the same as the surcharge, if not cheaper! I write my impressions everywhere! People, be careful where your parents and grandmothers go, they are very vulnerable to all sorts of swindlers!
аватар steblyanskaya
So after all, someone already went on tour packages from Bauer ??? We won a trip for two to Turkey in the spring of 2013. Is it a scam or not?
аватар osk.rubizhne
They write a lot of rubbish. I have been using Bauer cookware for over 10 years. Gradually acquired a lot of other things - wool, mattresses, even a sauna. Everyone is very satisfied. Buying is expensive, but when you start using it, you forget about the price. Six years ago I went on their tour to Turkey, and in October of this year I visited Italy. And no divorce! My husband refused to go with me, I took my girlfriend (doubting) with me, so she thanked me every evening for this. The program is great, the guides are smart, accommodation and food according to the stars (Turkey 5 *, Italy 4 *). For the money we paid, we would never have seen so much if we were driving on our own! Of course, if you just lie on the shore and see nothing but, it will be cheaper. But you can also lie on the shore in Ukraine. My advice: do not be afraid, no one will deceive you. By the way, the other day I was at the presentation again and bought their new juicer. Now I'm wondering where to go with them. I will collect money.
аватар mishkevich
I purchased BAUER products 5 years ago (a wool bed, bed linen, a sauna, dishes, and recently a juicer. I am very pleased with all this. For all this, I was given vouchers to Italy, Turkey, Cyprus, but have not yet used it. I read reviews. For some reason, it seems to me that it will be cheaper to take a ticket on your own.
And in response to ALEX 45 I will say that if a travel agency opens a visa, then our presence is not needed, but this visa will only be for a specific trip
аватар sveta_svetlaya
And we also "won" a voucher from Bauer in February 2013 ... For the win, they really took a deposit from us to purchase their goods, it's good that we only had 250 UAH with us. It was. In general, the price that they set for a flight is much higher than the average market price and amounts to 4900 UAH. per person + you will have to pay for food (and this is in the low season!). So the advance payment for the ticket for September 2013 must be made in May !!!! - and this is an early booking ... Taking into account the imposed goods, we even get an overpayment than if we had bought a ticket. In general, in 2 weeks of negotiations and letters, I returned the deposit left ... So consider it !!!
аватар sandra-art
osk.rubizhne - and where are your reviews about trips with photos???
stop lying here. you did not go anywhere because you are a representative of this company.
it is very strange when a person without reviews about trips on a tour site begins to respond to you, especially commercial ones. you probably "accidentally" found this thread
аватар alex45
I just can not understand that there are people who believe that TA open visas. Only embassies and consulates open visas. TA and even Visa Application Centers are intermediaries.
аватар Galina50
I was at a similar presentation of the company "Bauer" in Kyiv.
I looked at the products offered, but the price is insane. And of course, they are not made in Germany, because. except for a neutral insert somewhere on the inside of the product, there is nothing. I have been to Germany many times, bought different things there and I know the German label very well.
I liked the pillow, but the price was somewhere around $480. Then my son looked in Germany, he studies there) similar in appearance and quality of the pillow, their price is from 19 to 60 euros.
аватар miss.ismoilova
My husband and I have been traveling on a Bauer ticket since 10/16/2013. until October 23, 2013, they bought pillows at the company for $ 237, through the Travel Club they paid for the move for $ 470 per person. We paid $120 on the spot for dinners without drinks, for three excursions (the 1st package with lunches) we got a free visit to the Turkish bath. Both flights had seats in the last rows. The excursions are very interesting, the guide speaks good Russian, his name is Ismail, he was practically not silent on the excursions, he was very attentive to tourists, he offered water - so that it was always in the bus fridge, they took as much as you want even to the hotel for $ 5 (very convenient service). We lived three days in Side at the Grand Pearl Hotel 5 *, one day in Pamukkale, and three days in Kemer at the Medern 5 * hotel. Wishes - if possible, include in the ticket and dinners at least with tea. Everything else is great.
аватар miss.ismoilova
My husband and I have been traveling on a Bauer ticket since 10/16/2013. until October 23, 2013, they bought pillows at the company for $ 237, through the Travel Club they paid for the move for $ 470 per person. We paid $120 on the spot for dinners without drinks, for three excursions (the 1st package with lunches) we got a free visit to the Turkish bath. Both flights had seats in the last rows. The excursions are very interesting, the guide speaks good Russian, his name is Ismail, he was practically not silent on the excursions, he was very attentive to tourists, he offered water - so that it was always in the bus fridge, they took as much as you want even to the hotel for $ 5 (very convenient service). We lived three days in Side at the Grand Pearl Hotel 5 *, one day in Pamukkale, and three days in Kemer at the Medern 5 * hotel. Wishes - if possible, include in the ticket and dinners at least with tea. Everything else is great.
аватар miss.ismoilova
My husband and I have been traveling on a Bauer ticket since 10/16/2013. until October 23, 2013, they bought pillows at the company for $ 237, through the Travel Club they paid for the move for $ 470 per person. We paid $120 on the spot for dinners without drinks, for three excursions (the 1st package with lunches) we got a free visit to the Turkish bath. Both flights had seats in the last rows. The excursions are very interesting, the guide speaks good Russian, his name is Ismail, he was practically not silent on the excursions, he was very attentive to tourists, he offered water - so that it was always in the bus fridge, they took as much as you want even to the hotel for $ 5 (very convenient service). We lived three days in Side at the Grand Pearl Hotel 5 *, one day in Pamukkale, and three days in Kemer at the Medern 5 * hotel. Wishes - if possible, include in the ticket and dinners at least with tea. Everything else is great.
аватар miss.ismoilova
My husband and I have been traveling on a Bauer ticket since 10/16/2013. until October 23, 2013, they bought pillows at the company for $ 237, through the Travel Club they paid for the move for $ 470 per person. We paid $120 on the spot for dinners without drinks, for three excursions (the 1st package with lunches) we got a free visit to the Turkish bath. Both flights had seats in the last rows. The excursions are very interesting, the guide speaks good Russian, his name is Ismail, he was practically not silent on the excursions, he was very attentive to tourists, he offered water - so that it was always in the bus fridge, they took as much as you want even to the hotel for $ 5 (very convenient service). We lived three days in Side at the Grand Pearl Hotel 5 *, one day in Pamukkale, and three days in Kemer at the Medern 5 * hotel. Wishes - if possible, include in the ticket and dinners at least with tea. Everything else is great.
аватар rrss6
The divorce is complete, all prices for goods are inflated several times, people do not get fooled by the scam of this company. There is no such firm in Germany, there are Bauer firms, but only of a different profile.
аватар vershinina1975
I attended Bauer's presentation, no one suppressed me, did not put pressure on me and did not force me to buy anything. I wasn't forced to sit there and listen, I could have left the event if I wasn't interested. By the way, a woman was sitting not far from me, she spent half of her time and calmly left, no one grabbed her by the hands and did not demand to explain why she was leaving. This is about pressure, etc. Regarding the divorce of pensioners, again, no one forces them to buy, no one takes away their wallet, nobody takes away their passport, etc. Okay, now on topic.
I didn’t go on a ticket, I didn’t win it. A colleague with his daughter flew to Kemer, they were given a ticket at the presentation. We rested normally, a colleague arrived tanned and satisfied, I don’t know the details. But the fact of the donated voucher and the fact of the trip is there.
аватар levlu
I traveled with my sister from the Bauer company through the Travel Club to Turkey. I think that the prices are too high, although we were repeatedly told that the company pays extra !! He competently organized everything, very interestingly told. We fell in love with Turnia Tour in May 2014 from 10.05 there was a trip Levenets Love (there is a phone in the Bvuer company)
аватар T_Svetlana_A
I attended the presentation twice.
The first time I didn’t finish the first part, I had to leave on business, they snorted at me when leaving, “how am I leaving?”
The second time was to the end. I offer a product of slightly above average quality, with an unrealistically high price.
There is an open pressure on the buyer during a personal conversation. "Why can't you buy this kit for 24,000 rubles (8000 UAH), are you really not interested in your health, you need to sleep only on good, and in installments it's CHEAP!!!"
My indignation simply did not have a side chapel. They put you in an uncomfortable position, pushing you and forcing you to overpay. I bought underwear of the same quality (in terms of density and material) for 1.5 rubles (500 UAH), I definitely understand this sulfur! DIFFERENCE IN 16 TIMES!!!
A scam with free vouchers, but on the Internet, find how much a voucher costs and it will immediately be clear that the extra charge that is required from you is the cost of all vouchers!
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