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Dear forum users, I need your advice. The question is, I wanted to fly to Greece for a fur coat, they offer 2 options, with and without obligation. What to choose or can anyone have advice on how to get a fur coat with less spending?
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аватар tatgr2004
Do not be fooled by this "ball". Three skins will be torn off you. Buy the cheapest tour for 4 nights. From Donetsk a week ago they were 268 euros. And buy whatever you want, not what they will impose on you. You should also know that in Thessaloniki and Kastoria they sell fur from China
аватар sigur62
We bought without any obligations, and at the same time had a good rest.
The story about it is here:
http://www.turpravda.com/gr/kassandra/Aegean_Blue_Hotel-h27212-r41399.html
аватар Alex66
Here is my detailed story about the shop tour. Read it and the comments and everything will become clear to you.
http://blogs.turpravda.com/Alex66/81945.html
аватар travelsita
Without obligations! It will be necessary to buy a fur coat, and also in a particular store. The price of the tour will be included in the fur coat.
аватар masha2006-89
I went with the obligation to buy a fur coat! The choice was great, we visited several factories, they didn’t impose anything on me, I bought myself a wonderful fur coat, I’m very satisfied. Of course, you need to understand that the cost of the flight is already included in the fur coat, but the accommodation is free and the prices for fur coats are quite adequate, cheaper than in my city.
аватар travelsita
Everything "free (flight and accommodation)" is paid by the fur factories, which include it in the price of the fur coat.
аватар masha2006-89
Did you yourself buy a fur coat with an obligation? I see you know this topic so well
аватар travelsita
The TC must understand that free cheese is only in a mousetrap. For this "free" still someone pays. In this case, fur factories.
Regarding the fact that they did not impose - there is a condition in the contract - if the fur coat is not bought, then the tourist compensates the travel agency for the costs of the trip.
Why don't you write about it? If this condition were not there, then everyone would have come down in shoals to rest in Greece for 1 euro.
аватар Alex66
Don't talk nonsense. Nobody pays for anything. You're just repeating a marketing tale for tourists. But in fact, the seller or the owner of the salon simply calls the price 25-30% higher than that which he would offer to a simple tourist without a tour. And you will negotiate at best 100-200 euros. Then a kickback is simply paid to the travel agency, guide, driver, and so on. Therefore, such complex manipulations with two checks, their registration with the guide when buying, and so on. No one is going to pay anything to anyone and will not pay without guarantees that something will be sold, and no one will give such guarantees. Myths about some kind of furriers' union are a myth and nothing more. It's every man for himself.
аватар travelsita
"the owner of the salon simply names the price 25-30% higher than that which he would offer to a simple tourist without a tour .... Then a kickback is simply paid to the travel agency" - you fully confirmed what I wrote, but in other words. In any case, the tourist pays for everything by buying a fur coat, the price of which includes a kickback for the travel agency. Therefore, there is a condition of mandatory purchase.
аватар masha2006-89
Double checks are given to everyone, not only to those who came with an obligation, when buying any fur product. I don’t know how you bargained, but I was thrown off 500 euros and I didn’t see a big difference in the cost of fur coats of those who I had an obligation and without obligations. If the tour operator offers a good tour for 1 euro, why should you immediately look for a catch? There are also ridiculous prices for last-minute tours, you are probably also afraid to ride in them, because the entire cost will be included, for example, in excursions
аватар travelsita
And here last-minute tours, especially to Greece? It is good to travel to Greece by early booking. And those who burn are good who have a cartoon in their passport (the discount is very good). Last year it was possible to fly to Halkidiki for 340 in the all-inclusive four.
masha2006-89, and where are the excursions to last-minute tours (the operator needs to beat off the price of the tour at least to zero, so as not to burn out.)
аватар Alex66
masha2006-89, Yes, double checks are given to everyone, but they do not need to be recorded anywhere, only one at customs. And in the shop tour you will be read the rules before the trip that each check must also be registered with the guides. Indeed, in prices there is no difference with the obligation you have come or not. There is a big difference only if you come to the salon yourself, without any accompanying persons. Naturally, you need to tell the sellers or owners about this.
аватар masha2006-89
When buying a fur coat tour, we sign an obligation that if we don’t buy a fur coat, we pay extra for the cost of an air ticket and a visa of 450 euros, it’s not difficult to calculate how much the cost of a fur coat increases. Here, too, there is an interest of factories, it is very expensive to bring fur coats to Russia, so tours with an obligation are also beneficial for them, it is more profitable for them to pay such tourists for a hotel than to give 100% of the cost of a fur coat at customs. Before going, I read a lot of forums and reviews and concluded that it’s not scary to go with the obligation if you count on buying a good fur coat worth at least 2500 euros and I was not mistaken, the fur coat was bought at a very reasonable price and at the same time I had a good rest
аватар Alex66
Again, you do not understand, no one pays for any hotels. Not any Greek furriers paying for your flight and so on. Everything is much easier. Each salon owner simply names prices based on what they will have to pay for each fur coat sold, approximately 25% of the cost plus 150 euros just for the bus ride. I am not writing assumptions))))) For example, a fur coat costs 4,000 euros in the cabin for an ordinary tourist, a shop-tourist will be called 5,200, then 200 will be thrown off. 1000 euros receives an escort. Approximately such a layout for clarity. And everything else is tales for suckers.
аватар Alex66
By the way, Where does the information about the fact that at customs you need to give 100% of the cost of a fur coat? In a dream, I dreamed or the guides also told, as well as about the hospitable Greek furriers who chipped in to bring you to Greece))))))))))))))))))
аватар Alex66
Damn, I can't help but comment on the phrase - If the tour operator offers a good tour for 1 euro, why should you immediately look for a catch?
Good question)))))) The answer suggests itself. Well, where is the catch? Everything is as it should be))) And if I win every day on the Internet on the iPad, and recently I received several SMS about the fact that I won a BMW)))) And they also offer timeshares in Hawaii for free)))) and very a lot more. Well, where is the catch. Soon I will open a store with iPads)) Yes! Russia is big! The suckers will never move.
аватар masha2006-89
And where do you get such knowledge about shop tours? Do you all work together in factories??
аватар Alex66
masha2006-89, there is a link to my story above in the discussion. I'll give you the link again. There is also a video. http://blogs.turpravda.com/Alex66/81945.html#
I don’t work in factories, but in recent years I have eaten a dog on fur coats and shop tours)))))
аватар masha2006-89
Well, since you eat dogs ... and even on fur coats ... I still remain unconvinced, you went without obligations, and I with an obligation, so I would not be so categorical if I were you. I seem to be more lucky with a fur coat
аватар sigur62
Alex is right, even though he eats dogs.
Tours for Eureka are for suckers.
It is for such suckers who are lucky with fur coats)))
аватар masha2006-89
Please, no offense! I just said my opinion, and you pounced on me, thanks for not biting me! No need to impose your opinion when others have their own head on their shoulders. If you have been deceived, then I sympathize with you!
аватар Olesya2201
We have just returned from Greece. Very pleased. They took it with a promise. As advised by a friend. She bought herself 2 fur coats in Greece. We actually paid 1 euro for two! We were told how to choose fur coats. We also visited factories and visited Edik. This is the center where all fur coats from different factories are brought. I bought myself a fur coat for 1700, although they asked for 2100, a friend bargained for 500 euros. We even had an excursion on the first day in Thessaloniki.
аватар Olesya2201
We were told that it was more profitable for them to bring tourists for fur coats than to pay taxes and open shops in Russia. I don’t know whether it led us or not, but we bought ourselves cool fur coats. Prior to this, the whole of Engels and Saratov went around, they could not choose anything.
аватар victorias
Fur factories include a surcharge in fur coats, but in my experience less than the cost of the tour, if it were paid separately ...
аватар Alex66
Yeah, for fur coats up to 1500-2000 euros, yes, but everything that is more expensive ...... is already unprofitable. And what kind of experience can you get? Did they tell you at the salon? Or guides? Or do you just think so? But in fact, the approximate mark-up for a fur coat is about 25%, plus each salon pays 150 euros just for the arrival of the bus, regardless of the purchase. If you buy one or two fur coats, add this money to the price. If the coat is inexpensive, then it doesn’t matter, but if it’s 3000-4000 euros more expensive, then it already hurts.
аватар yuliya.semenova
What is there to argue, there is an extra charge, of course. But not 25% at all. If there had been such an extra charge, then I would not have bought a whole mink that year for 2500 euros.
аватар gidvgreece
everyone chooses for himself what is profitable for him and what is not. If you buy a tour for 1 euro, in this case your fur product will cost .... euro + expenses for your trip.
аватар yana1011
Good afternoon MBA TOUR! Thanks to MBA TOUR company and manager Yana for help, patience, detailed consultations, attention, detailed instructions for fur coat tour to Greece, donated catalogs, CDs with Greek music and a guide to the country! Shubtour to Greece - Everything is organized at the highest level.
Were from 03.01 to 05.01.2014! Perfectly organized fur coat tour! I want to go back to Greece and relax at sea!
аватар Alex66
Julia, mink mink strife. I assure you that you would buy a whole mink for both 1500 euros and 1000, especially since you do not specify what you bought. By the way, what is meant by a whole mink? Sewn from plates? So from "non-solid", sewn in the dissolution of mink, products are considered more interesting, more complex and more expensive. Tailoring from solid rectangular plates has no advantages in terms of beauty and wear.
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