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I wonder what parents are guided by when they take a baby to Turkey, Egypt, etc.? Is this a necessity? I feel sorry for these kids...
I wonder what parents are guided by when they take a baby to Turkey, Egypt, etc.? Is this a necessity? I feel sorry for these kids...
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I'm sorry too. Already 2-3 years, until the child grows up, it is quite possible to spend a vacation in less hot places.
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answered 9 years ago
But I don’t understand why I feel sorry for them! Is it really not so hot in the Crimea, in the Caucasus, you can find less hot places. In Egypt, I saw a lot of babies in the winter, lying in strollers, and you look at the fish in the sea. My grandchildren constantly go where their parents go, from the age of six months and I don’t feel sorry for them. We visited Egypt, Turkey, Montenegro, Italy, and Spain, were on a cruise around Europe and did not become sick and bad. Here photo of my granddaughter in Sharm (first visit)
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answered 9 years ago
I answer the second part. There was no need for these trips for children, my wife and I are always ready to be with our grandchildren, but the children say that we travel together everywhere and always. I don’t think that their vacation is worse than when children are taken to a remote village for beds for a couple of months.
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answered 9 years ago
I, too, feel sorry for the traveler babies, and I also feel sorry for the tourists who finally waited for their vacation, paid for their vacation and were forced to endure such proximity in transport and hotel rooms.
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answered 9 years ago
In this matter, we have to be in solidarity with the female part of the forum.
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Yes, poor unfortunate tourists, both with and without babies! I'm much more annoyed by boys from 5 years old and on, screaming and screaming, running around the pools for adults and jumping on the heads of those who "paid for the rest". But in general, this topic about babies arises every summer, these children interfere with one, others who have children answer that they also want to relax. My advice is to choose the right hotels, read hotel reviews and you will have a wonderful vacation.
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It is necessary to analyze each specific case. Parents also want to relax, and if they are ready to sacrifice the usefulness of the rest, then why not. For example, my daughter calmly endures the road, the plane and behaves quite adequately in restaurants. Of course, I have to run after her, but this is quite normal. By the way, the whole of Europe rests with children, regardless of age. For them, this is the norm. But if the child does not tolerate a change of scenery and transport, then it is better not to risk it. Parents themselves know their child better and must honestly answer the question - Will they cope?
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answered 9 years ago
There is not always someone to leave the child with. For example, our parents live far away and are old, you can’t leave a child with them. Hiring a nanny for 8-10 days - you won’t find anyone, give everyone a permanent job, and if anyone agrees, it comes out to a tidy sum. Wait until the child grows up, and not go anywhere until 2-3 years old? Ok, and if the second is planned? Another 3-4 years without going anywhere? And so cross out 6-7 years from life, spending the summer in a stuffy apartment ... Believe me, parents and themselves for the happiness of getting rid of small things for a few days and being newlyweds by the beach, but not everyone has such an opportunity.
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answered 9 years ago
And yes, for example, small children do not interfere with me at all. But 4-5-6 year old tomboys are a nightmare. Especially those of Arab origin, who behave like wild forest baboons who have seized upon the fruit market.
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answered 9 years ago
I love five-year-olds screaming) And in general I love different children. But it is still undesirable for a baby to change the climate so drastically. It would be nice to stay in the South for a month or two. One week is a terrible stress even for an adult organism. Children's immune system is imperfect, there is an imbalance, which then backfires.
For those who are disturbed by children, did you know that there are hotels only for adults?
For those who are disturbed by children, did you know that there are hotels only for adults?
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answered 9 years ago
If you like to feel sorry for other people's children so much, do charity work. Our daughter first visited Turkey at 11 months old. Everything went fine, although before the trip I heard enough from such "regretful" ones. The main thing is to choose the right hotel where a small child will be comfortable. And about the imbalance and other nonsense, it's all a fairy tale. Not once have I seen on the news that a small child has been harmed in Turkey due to an imbalance. In the summer in Moscow +25, in Kemer +35. What a deadly imbalance, you see. But fresh air, sea water and in general a million impressions for the baby.
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As a father who took a 6-month-old baby to Egypt in August, they say: “Yes, this is a necessity. The need to take the baby to fresh air and a warm healing sea. And the air temperature on the seashore under the shade of an umbrella does not matter at all. No burns, suffocation from the heat or other heat strokes were noticed. But the absence of colds for a whole year is proven. "
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answered 9 years ago
And it’s only a pity for tourists who initially choose a family hotel, knowing that there will be only children around them, and then complain about anyone, but not about themselves.
In Turkey, as elsewhere, there are enough hotels without children or those where the children's area is separated from the rest of the adult.
In Turkey, as elsewhere, there are enough hotels without children or those where the children's area is separated from the rest of the adult.
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answered 9 years ago
Regarding "do not go anywhere until 3 years old" - the doctors have nothing against "driving", but they strongly do not recommend changing the weather and climate conditions for the baby.
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answered 9 years ago
I somehow stopped believing domestic doctors a long time ago, who have long since hardened in their knowledge. I just found out that in Europe they no longer give injections to children in a soft spot (they think it’s dangerous), but ours continue this procedure. -something from Siberia to the Caucasus or the Crimea is not dangerous and climatic conditions do not change dramatically.
I repeat, my grandchildren have been traveling around Europe and Asia for half a year and it’s already time to go to school, and there are no negative effects on immunity from these trips, intelligence is quite high, development is both physical and mentally normal, resting with the family brings them together and, as it were, makes them related -special.
I repeat, my grandchildren have been traveling around Europe and Asia for half a year and it’s already time to go to school, and there are no negative effects on immunity from these trips, intelligence is quite high, development is both physical and mentally normal, resting with the family brings them together and, as it were, makes them related -special.
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answered 9 years ago
Friends, let's not fight. "Children on vacation" is one of the new and now eternal questions.
We are all with different upbringings, from different regions, with different opportunities, and each of us will always have our own personal opinion on this issue.
Some do not have grandparents, some have a clear understanding that the sea and sea air are very useful for a baby, some believe that temperature changes are harmful, etc.
In my opinion, the main thing is that those who travel with children at all bring them up normally and they do not interfere with other vacationers either on the plane, or in the restaurant, or in the pool ... ..
And medical indications are already a matter for each individual parent and doctor, this is their responsibility, outsiders will not help here.
As for those who interfere with rest, it is often not only children who interfere with rest, but also quite adult people who seize upon beer and alcoholic cocktails and do not see anyone around them.
Let's just respect each other both on vacation and in life and choose the right hotels, almost all of them are quite clearly divided into categories of vacationers. And we will all be happy.
We are all with different upbringings, from different regions, with different opportunities, and each of us will always have our own personal opinion on this issue.
Some do not have grandparents, some have a clear understanding that the sea and sea air are very useful for a baby, some believe that temperature changes are harmful, etc.
In my opinion, the main thing is that those who travel with children at all bring them up normally and they do not interfere with other vacationers either on the plane, or in the restaurant, or in the pool ... ..
And medical indications are already a matter for each individual parent and doctor, this is their responsibility, outsiders will not help here.
As for those who interfere with rest, it is often not only children who interfere with rest, but also quite adult people who seize upon beer and alcoholic cocktails and do not see anyone around them.
Let's just respect each other both on vacation and in life and choose the right hotels, almost all of them are quite clearly divided into categories of vacationers. And we will all be happy.
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answered 9 years ago
Happiness can not be all at once, unfortunately. You can choose an adults-only hotel, but there are no adults-only planes. Double-decker Boeings with about 500 passengers fly from Moscow to mass destinations, not just a lot of children, but a lot. To whom the whole flight was kicked in the back of the chair, and the parents did nothing, they will understand me. We must respect each other, but not everyone adheres to this. There are many who live according to the principle THIS FOOL.
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answered 9 years ago
And I'll put in my 5 cents! Large family - currently 18.9 and 2 years old. Children rest only with us, and if the eldest flew with us for the first time at the age of 5, then the average one at 4 months (Montenegro), and the youngest from 2.5 months Greece. I always choose a hotel focused on a comfortable family vacation. Children are always good. Why didn’t they leave them with a nanny (they were older and have a younger one), because until the age of 2 I fed everyone and I didn’t want to stress the child, and the principle of our family is everywhere and always together !! The main rule is to choose short flights (up to 3 hours). Children tolerate them perfectly. Always in the hotel I see the same (with babies) Europeans who have 5-6 children and they all rest together. But ours, who gave birth to one, sometimes two children, are trying to tell me that I’m like a bad mother and now I’m dragging children, etc.. Here in May we flew once again to Egypt and my daughter was tired of sitting (she was 2.2 years old at that time), she just stood at the window (her place was near the window), but since the aunt in front threw the seat back, the child stood in a half-bent position and sometimes trying to straighten out, she would cling to this chair with her shoulder or head. . . . very sharply-negative reaction happened in this aunt.
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answered 9 years ago
I continue. Auntie started yelling at me that I was a bad mother, that my child was bothering her, and so on, and with all this, my daughter was silent .... At her husband’s attempts to calm her down, it’s just no way, so on the plane several people got up and quickly said that she's wrong, and the flight attendants offered her a sedative. These are the situations that are very stressful.
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answered 9 years ago
moy_contakt you want to say that the aunt was wrong. You really hurt her. The fact that she flared up does not paint her either, and yet the reason was, after all, in your child. If my daughter would only try to run around the plane or knock on the front seat with her feet, she would instantly get hit on the ears. Perhaps I was lucky and from early childhood she calmly endures both takeoff and landing and sleeps calmly on an airplane, she is now 3.8a and she has already flown on an airplane at least a dozen times to different places.
And she herself looks with square eyes at the screaming and rushing children, whom their parents cannot calm down. Although in life she is very active and athletic, but in transport, at a party, in the theater, etc., you need to behave decently, she knows this.
A rough comparison, but if a lady with a small dog were flying nearby and the dog would pee on your chair or on you, would you like it? And the dog was simply impatient, it wasn’t on purpose ....
People are flying in an airplane, someone is sleeping, someone is reading, someone is even working, and this does not mean that they need to be disturbed, referring to the fact that the child is small. He will play a little and calm down and so on.
And she herself looks with square eyes at the screaming and rushing children, whom their parents cannot calm down. Although in life she is very active and athletic, but in transport, at a party, in the theater, etc., you need to behave decently, she knows this.
A rough comparison, but if a lady with a small dog were flying nearby and the dog would pee on your chair or on you, would you like it? And the dog was simply impatient, it wasn’t on purpose ....
People are flying in an airplane, someone is sleeping, someone is reading, someone is even working, and this does not mean that they need to be disturbed, referring to the fact that the child is small. He will play a little and calm down and so on.
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answered 9 years ago
Of course, at the legislative level it is not forbidden to take a 6-month-old to Egypt in August, so parents are free to do this. But the amazing thing is that usually “I don’t believe doctors” are said by those who don’t even understand the difference between climatic zones and air temperature. This is not about temperature, but about climate change, which whips up immunity. Up to 1 year, immunity is only being formed, changing the child's climate zone, you run the risk of triggering mechanisms that you will then disentangle all your life. And "mine feels great in August in Egypt" (Oh, Gods, yes, adults do not feel well in August in Egypt) is not an argument at all. Do you want to play roulette? Play. But at least ask the question. In order not just to hide your head in the sand - "well, these doctors all lie", but understanding the risks, choose the minimum ones. You can also go to Europe in August.
And, yes, from Siberia to the Crimea, this is a change in climatic zones, and this is no more useful than from Moscow to Turkey.
And, yes, from Siberia to the Crimea, this is a change in climatic zones, and this is no more useful than from Moscow to Turkey.
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answered 9 years ago
This is generally a branch of Turkey. The author of the question did not write anything about Egypt in August. Why invent? And you can safely fly to Turkey with kids. I’m not talking about two-month-olds, I wouldn’t risk it here (although there are plenty of them, mostly among foreigners). But when the children are already about a year old, +, - a couple of months, the trip will not harm them in any way. Stop scaring people with empty talk. There will be no harm to the health of a small tourist from a couple of weeks in Turkey in the summer. Do not carry the flag yourself. Let your children under 5 years old (or until how many taboos you have there) do not see the sea and do not know what clean air and real sun are. Do not lure others only into your sect "who are afraid of everything".
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As a father who took a 6-month-old baby to Egypt in August, they say: “Yes, this is a necessity. The need to take the baby to fresh air and a warm healing sea. And the air temperature on the seashore under the shade of an umbrella does not matter at all. No burns, suffocation from the heat or other heat strokes were noticed. But the absence of colds for a whole year is proven. "
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I'm not inventing anything and I'm not luring anyone, if you mean me)
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I'm not inventing anything and I'm not luring anyone, if you mean me)
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answered 9 years ago
The questioner is talking about Turkey and Egypt, read the question carefully
Your opinion is also interesting: "And about imbalance and other nonsense, these are all fairy tales. I have never seen in the news that a small child was injured in Turkey due to imbalance."
How could you see on the news about children affected by an imbalance?) Do you even understand what an imbalance of the immune system means?) Start reading about immunity, how it is formed, what affects it and why imbalance is dangerous. And then you have now taken the position: "Everyone is lying" is absolutely thoughtless. You are just defending your opinion.
Your opinion is also interesting: "And about imbalance and other nonsense, these are all fairy tales. I have never seen in the news that a small child was injured in Turkey due to imbalance."
How could you see on the news about children affected by an imbalance?) Do you even understand what an imbalance of the immune system means?) Start reading about immunity, how it is formed, what affects it and why imbalance is dangerous. And then you have now taken the position: "Everyone is lying" is absolutely thoughtless. You are just defending your opinion.
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answered 9 years ago
They just lumped it all together. In Egypt in August, this is for an adult too. But here some say that in Turkey it is impossible to rest with kids. And them, where the imbalance is disturbed ... People will come up with horror stories for themselves. Well, it’s probably better for a baby to breathe carbon dioxide in Moscow than clean air in Kemer ... yeah ...
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answered 9 years ago
I'm not defending my opinion, but the opinion of adequate people. For the position "It is dangerous to carry small children to the sea, as their immune system will suffer" is not a position, but prejudice. Which, fortunately, are a thing of the past. No immune system can be harmed by sea and clean air. Of course, you should choose the right hotel so that the baby is comfortable and take basic precautions from the sun. Of course, you can throw the child in the sun itself, like "play", and by yourself in a bar for a beer. Then, when the child becomes ill, it will be very convenient to blame everything on a violation in the immune system and on bad Turkey. There is no bad Turkey, there are bad parents.
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answered 9 years ago
Prejudice is the fear of black cats
You don't have to talk about the immune system like that. You are a doctor?
Here I have two doctors sitting here now - an adult immunologist and a children's allergist.
They say the following:
Adult immunologist - up to three years, you should not drastically change climatic zones.
A children's allergist - up to 1 year I categorically do not recommend changing climatic zones.
Let everyone make their own conclusion.
But you need to be interested in the issue, and not just dismiss it.
You don't have to talk about the immune system like that. You are a doctor?
Here I have two doctors sitting here now - an adult immunologist and a children's allergist.
They say the following:
Adult immunologist - up to three years, you should not drastically change climatic zones.
A children's allergist - up to 1 year I categorically do not recommend changing climatic zones.
Let everyone make their own conclusion.
But you need to be interested in the issue, and not just dismiss it.
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