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What do you hear about the agreement between Turkey and Ukraine on entry with internal passports?
What do you hear about the agreement between Turkey and Ukraine on entry with internal passports?
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10 subscribers  • asked 2017-02-288 years ago
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аватар Igor_m
Groysman will soon go to Ankara, where they will sign the Agreement. In the summer it will be possible to travel with an internal (ID) passport.
аватар moy_contakt
Well, what’s the point ..... Many people have foreign passports and who went to Turkey, they don’t care if they are foreign or domestic (unless, of course, we are talking about new plastic passports that you still need to get, unlike foreign passports), and who didn’t go - they and even more so it's all up to the light bulb.
аватар musja7
The meaning of this is 0. Units have an internal passport ID. Due to problems with the equipment, chip documents were not issued until the last minute. It is the same with children under 14 who do not yet have an ID internal passport: they still need to get a foreign passport. According to Ai-di's parents' document, he cannot go. So it's more of a declaration, a statement that doesn't matter for this year's practice.
аватар musja7
By the way, it takes even longer to get an internal ID than to make even a new passport. So changing an internal ordinary passport to an internal ID is more of a problem. how to apply for a foreign
аватар kazkova
Who knows from travel agents, 1) is it possible to go to Turkey with a child of 14 years old, if he is entered in the parents' passport?
2) Will a 14-year-old child be allowed to travel with their own ID card (after signing the agreement)?
аватар moy_contakt
I’m not a travel agent, but I often travel with children (the youngest is just written in, because she just turned 4 years old, the average one is written in and glued in, the scary one was also written in and glued in and went with us until she was 18 years old (now she has her own passport). And when they received visas, then their visas were pasted into my passport for all the children ..... So, in May and June we have 2 trips to Georgia and Turkey, and I was not only interested in the travel agency, but also called the border service They said that if the child's photo was pasted no more than 5 years ago, then everything is OK, but if more ...... then no one guarantees anything. They made passports for the children and I don’t worry about anything now.It’s both easier and calmer ..... And they will not accept it there ..... and you can miss a vacation.
аватар kazkova
Well, I don’t plan to go anywhere except Turkey and Egypt, so I don’t want to waste time and money on a children’s passport (she’s already 14 and a half, and then at 18 she’ll have to redo it again). As my travel agent told me, it would work for Turkey and Egypt. But I would like to hear another opinion in order to be 100% sure (ideally, if someone has already taken a child after 14 years in 2017 to Turkey or Egypt according to the parent's passport).
аватар moy_contakt
Yes, you can. Friends went to Egypt this year in January - their son is 15, daughter is 13 - both children are inscribed and pasted into their mother's passport. But the photo was pasted 2 or 3 years ago (just when they announced that no more children would be pasted, they are just that and did). Those photos are fresh. And if the photos are pasted over 5 years ago, then this is at the discretion of the host. Usually, both Egypt and Turkey are very loyal .... but this is such a thing. The eldest glued in was 8 years old and traveled with us until 17.5 years old - everything was always fine, but now everything can change so quickly. We had an Indian visa for 6 months my passport), but at the time of entry to India, changes had already passed and my son had to have his own passport ... but we didn’t know about this, and it was a visa. Passed all passport controls and having already arrived in India, clarifications began. The visa was issued at the Indian Embassy in Kyiv ... at the time of issuance, everything corresponded and it was opened for us. Everything ended well, but the nerves frayed.
аватар kazkova
Great, we have a photo pasted in 2015, so we’ll still train until 2020)
аватар alex45
Guys! Well, how to hope for words. What, the travel agent will answer for his words if problems arise? Of course not. Kazkova! And you take a certificate from the travel agent that everything will be as she said, I doubt that she will!
аватар moy_contakt
I agree with alex45. The words of the agency cannot be sewn into the case and there is always a clause in the contract that they are not responsible if the vacationers have problems with the documents, that at the time of the tour all documents must be brought into line. Now everything can change at any moment, and unfortunately we don’t have the opportunity to find out about everything quickly. And I would not like to find out about this at the passport control desk. Once faced with this, now I am reinsured, because all this costs a lot of money.
аватар Igor_m
Yes, there are questions. For example, I always go to Turkey by car, customs stamps are put in the passport and on the car registrar. Everything is clear to everyone during the stay and when leaving. What if the"hellish " machine breaks down and does not read the information from the chip, what will happen then? No, I'll take a foreign passport, which is also biometric.
аватар kolyan_cat
A passport for a child costs about 600 UAH. He will use it for 3.5 years (from 14.5 to 18).
Compared to the cost of the trip itself - a penny. It seems strange to me this"savings ".
аватар kazkova
In fact, it's not so much a matter of savings as of red tape. You need the presence of the pope or a notarized power of attorney - this is very difficult to organize. So while I'm making an ID card
аватар moy_contakt
I made passports this year for the children and the presence of the pope was not needed, only a marriage certificate. We also have (we have in Kharkov and Kyiv, I won’t say for other cities) a service passport - without a queue, quickly - brought the children - after half an hour I already left. You can do it quickly (7 working days is a little expensive), but you can also according to the standard -month. It costs 900s something hryvnia, but it suited me. already got the passports.
аватар alex45
This office is called"Done" we have in Zaporozhye. But there are also in Kyiv and other cities. Type in "Search"
аватар musja7
Great, we have a photo pasted in 2015, so we’ll still train until 2020)
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Don't ride. For children with a photo in their passports, their parents have transitional provisions until 2018. From next year, children still need to make a separate one. Parents can use theirs until after rock
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I made passports this year for the children and the presence of the pope was not necessary, only a marriage certificate
If the parents are registered at different addresses or with different surnames, they require the presence of both or the notarized consent of the second. There must also be a certificate from the ZhEKa about the registration of the child and the documents for the child are then submitted by the parent with whom the child is registered
аватар kazkova
"If the parents are registered at different addresses OR at different surnames "... And if they are registered at different addresses, and the surnames are the same?
аватар kazkova
that is, until 2018 you can still ride. And then with ID cards, is it still unclear? Will it be possible for a child to travel to Turkey with an ID card without a passport?
аватар moy_contakt
My husband and I are registered at different addresses, but with the same last name. In a telephone consultation, they did not ask questions about either the surname or the registration, but simply said that a marriage certificate was needed. I applied myself with the children. I can give a link to the organization where I received it, everything is written there as well.
аватар musja7
kazkova, if the parents are registered at different addresses, a certificate from Zheka is needed and the documents are submitted by the parent with whom the child is registered.
As for the ID card for trips to Turkey, no one has traveled with them yet. So who can tell you exactly how it will be. Everything is at the level of declarations at this moment. When there are already precedents, then we can talk about something.
If you don’t have fresh photos of children in your passport (that is, pasted literally before the introduction of separate passports for children), there may be problems. You understand that the faces of teenagers are significantly different from those that they had a few years ago. Give your kids separate passports and you'll have peace of mind. Now it can be done without queues and dust. From the age of 14, a child must have a separate passport. After 14 years and earlier, the photo insert did not give the right to go to the parent, because. from the age of 14 a separate document is issued for a child
аватар musja7
Here is a list of passport service documents in our city:
аватар moy_contakt
Here is a link to our passport service and below are the required documents. And here the certificate of residence is required only if the parents are divorced .... confirms the authority of the legal representative (except in cases where the legal representative is one of the parents). Application from one of the parents (formed on the spot). Mandatory presence of originals of the passport of the citizen of Ukraine. Marriage certificate to confirm the fact that the parents are married. If the parents are not married - the application is submitted by the parent with whom the child lives (the presence of a certificate of registration of the child). And here I submitted in February and except for certificates of marriage and witnesses of the birth of children I did not present any other certificates.
аватар musja7
moy_contakt we are required not only from those who are divorced.
аватар 19062005
We are now issuing a passport for a child of 11 years old. It was entered and pasted into the passport, but we were told that at present the photo of the child should be pasted once every THREE years. Here, in order to avoid misunderstandings at the border, you have to make a passport. We drove through the OVIRs, but the requirements, as it turned out, are different. In the OVIR at the place of residence they demanded the TIN of the child! The presence of the father is optional. The prices are fantastic. The cost of OVIR is 557 UAH, in the passport service - 990
аватар kazkova
It's a madhouse in our OVIR, where you have to queue up almost from the night, and it's not a fact that you will get in. In addition, they said that from the age of 16, a child can independently make an adult passport, without the presence of parents. So given that she is already 14 and a half, we will do it at 16, but for now we’ll go one or two more times according to the inscribed in mine.
аватар info625142
We are going to Turkey with a child of 4 years. He is in my foreign country, and my wife’s is only SIGNED (first name, surname, date of birth), without photos (they entered for the Schengen in 2013, when he was not even a year old, but he was also photographed on the Schengen visa). Will he ride now WITHOUT his photo in our foreign countries? Or do I need to make a separate passport for it? Thank you.
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