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does the tour operator sell tours to individuals?
Tell me in the newspaper it is written that it is more profitable to buy a ticket from a tour operator. But is it possible?
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There are enough tour operators - you will find with whom it will be convenient and profitable for you to cooperate.
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answered 14 years ago
And I already noticed how many TAs puff up and call themselves tour operators, but they don’t have any tourist product, they work with large companies and that’s all,
don't fall for it.
don't fall for it.
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answered 14 years ago
And yet, travel agencies have their own percentages of discounts from TO, and vary them, so it’s not a fact that it’s profitable to buy a ticket from TO.
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answered 14 years ago
A vivid example of what alex45 wrote.
We were planning a skiing trip, I wanted to save money and called Orbita directly. I was told: "come, we will sell without any problems." But! Without the 10% discount they give TA. After long negotiations, I was told that maybe the director personally decides to give me a couple of percent, although my TA gives me 5% without any negotiations, and even more with negotiations. So, in any case, you need to calculate everything.
We were planning a skiing trip, I wanted to save money and called Orbita directly. I was told: "come, we will sell without any problems." But! Without the 10% discount they give TA. After long negotiations, I was told that maybe the director personally decides to give me a couple of percent, although my TA gives me 5% without any negotiations, and even more with negotiations. So, in any case, you need to calculate everything.
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answered 14 years ago
For the first time I hear this, if an agency calls itself a tour operator, this means that they have a license for tour operator activities, but they actually do not form an independent product. etc. Ordinary agencies just with such a license, but it sounds something like :)
although, this is only what I have encountered more than once.
although, this is only what I have encountered more than once.
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answered 14 years ago
Some operators work directly with tourists, others do not work. Some give a discount to their regular tourists, others do not.
Which carriers are you interested in?
Which carriers are you interested in?
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answered 14 years ago
Katyyy! I wrote what I saw at the tour exhibition. I know that this is a major travel agent, he doesn’t have his own tourist product, he takes it from TO, and he has a stupid operator in his advertising fiction. "Tooth
I give, the age of will not be seen! Do you believe?
I give, the age of will not be seen! Do you believe?
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answered 14 years ago
Travel agents necessarily receive discounts from tour operators in their agency contracts, how they dispose of them is another matter, they can, having 5-10%
give 25% if they need it for something.
give 25% if they need it for something.
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answered 14 years ago
Yes. I made a mistake .. read - a tour operator, not a stupid operator. Although there may be something in this.
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answered 14 years ago
I believe. If you remember, I asked here about one operator not so long ago, so that's all I saw was the stupid price of anex tour one to one minus 5% and the oncoming side, you guess who :), but we have options without such a discount . I explained where they got their name from.
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answered 14 years ago
I also came across the fact that there are companies that proudly call themselves a Tour Operator, but in fact, they do not have their own product, but only resell other well-known TOs.
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answered 14 years ago
Have you ever wondered why all these difficulties? It seemed you didn’t want to with Pegasus, well, you bought it directly from him or Tez Tour, it seems at first glance it’s simply not logical. But this is only at first glance, but in fact it is pure according to Raikin! "Who sewed the suit!". That is, it is not possible to find an extreme case in which case, everyone will shift the blame on the other, many will quickly get tired of all this, which is what all this is designed for.
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answered 14 years ago
No, you are not quite right here. This is the same (for example) as buying groceries in a supermarket. You don't buy them from the manufacturer, do you?
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answered 14 years ago
And what’s incomprehensible about the last one ??? The operator will be the last one, the agency’s obligations to you (that’s why they are intermediary agents) cease from the moment the contract is concluded and the money is transferred, that’s all, they did their job :) I declare to you as a lawyer.
And think about how much the distribution network would cost each operator and how it would affect the price.
And think about how much the distribution network would cost each operator and how it would affect the price.
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answered 14 years ago
This is just the point, a network of sellers or agency agreements. Slightly add the price of a ticket and give 5-10% to a travel agent to dig the earth, supplying tourists to
charters and, stipulate, a convenient contract.
charters and, stipulate, a convenient contract.
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answered 14 years ago
Whoever doesn’t dig will go bankrupt! Except when a rich pinocchio bought a toy for his malvina so that he doesn’t get bored and what profitability she has, daddy will pay for everything.
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answered 14 years ago
jabetta-supermarket is not the right example and they work with us on the principle that they wanted the best, but it turned out as always. Here you are, as a tourist, dear Katyyy, as a lawyer, explain who will be responsible in this situation. Let's say the company selling tour packages "Horns and Hooves" sold you a tour to Egypt to a 4 * hotel, and upon arrival you find out that the hotel officially has 3 * and what the seller promised you from the services does not correspond even by half. Here you spoiled the rest and who is to blame for this situation?
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answered 14 years ago
The one who sells expired yogurt to you in the supermarket and also answers your claim - Where did you look. More specifically, no one!
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answered 14 years ago
But you at least see in the supermarket that it’s yogurt, not kefir, but here if you don’t have the Internet or you don’t know how to use it, you are shamelessly bred to the fullest, because the existing system allows this without being punished.
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answered 14 years ago
Eee, no! In a supermarket, you also cannot trust the price tag, on which, for example, you read sour cream, but look at the label - vegetable fats. I am already silent about the fact that one thing is written on the label, but in reality it is another, in general, do not believe your eyes. Also in the tourist industry - trust, but verify how it really is. And then, you can run into deception. In general, we now need to be experts everywhere, both in TA and in the supermarket. Everyone is trying to cash in on us.
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answered 14 years ago
But I brought the comparison with the supermarket more to the fact that it was said that it is better to just buy tours directly from TO.
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answered 14 years ago
Yes, I don’t argue who has the best of us, just sour cream costs $ 1, and a trip for two is $ 1000. There is a difference? I just remember how they threw mine, who decided to make a gift and went to the company herself and asked for Sharm 5 * and the first line, so that it would be convenient to relax at sea. Yes, this is a wonderful hotel, a new 5 * and right by the sea. Well, I believed and bought it, when I was already told which hotel and I climbed the ship to the site, I found out there is no sea, as it were, but it is not there, because there is no pontoon. It’s good that experts were found and explained that there was still a wild beach then, and now there is a hotel (
Tiran Hotel Sharm El Sheikh 5 *) really stomp to him for about 20 minutes, but when I arrived, the vacationers did not know this and everyone cursed Egypt and the hotel, after I took people there, many changed their minds about the rest, but everyone unanimously claimed that they were deceived, because people asked for a vacation with the sea, and not by the sea.
Yes, for me it was not critical, but what was it like for people with small children to drag them on themselves, plus more drinks, etc.
Tiran Hotel Sharm El Sheikh 5 *) really stomp to him for about 20 minutes, but when I arrived, the vacationers did not know this and everyone cursed Egypt and the hotel, after I took people there, many changed their minds about the rest, but everyone unanimously claimed that they were deceived, because people asked for a vacation with the sea, and not by the sea.
Yes, for me it was not critical, but what was it like for people with small children to drag them on themselves, plus more drinks, etc.
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answered 14 years ago
miki08, don't you understand in what country we live?
They themselves have been deceived. In autumn we went to Crown Plaza in Marsa Alam. I knew that it was impossible to go to this hotel during corporate events. They took a ticket for a week and at my request, TA made a request (oral) to the TO about the presence of corporate parties there during this period (fool, it would be better to ask the hotel directly). The answer was joyful for me and, as a result, the vacation was successfully spoiled (everything is described in my review). The hotel told me that they knew about these corporate parties for 2 months!
When, upon arrival home, I made a claim, the TO answered me, but where is our written answer that there will be no corporate parties there? In the end, I received only an apology from TA.
We met the Germans there, who were also very outraged by that disgrace. So, at home they received compensation of 50% of the cost of the tour (recently received a letter), despite the fact that they did not make any request in advance, even verbally.
These are the realities. So, we can only learn from our mistakes and not rely on the decency of our TO and TA.
They themselves have been deceived. In autumn we went to Crown Plaza in Marsa Alam. I knew that it was impossible to go to this hotel during corporate events. They took a ticket for a week and at my request, TA made a request (oral) to the TO about the presence of corporate parties there during this period (fool, it would be better to ask the hotel directly). The answer was joyful for me and, as a result, the vacation was successfully spoiled (everything is described in my review). The hotel told me that they knew about these corporate parties for 2 months!
When, upon arrival home, I made a claim, the TO answered me, but where is our written answer that there will be no corporate parties there? In the end, I received only an apology from TA.
We met the Germans there, who were also very outraged by that disgrace. So, at home they received compensation of 50% of the cost of the tour (recently received a letter), despite the fact that they did not make any request in advance, even verbally.
These are the realities. So, we can only learn from our mistakes and not rely on the decency of our TO and TA.
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answered 14 years ago
So I'm against exactly what group irresponsibility. We pay money to one, tours are organized by others, and hotels say that they have nothing to do with it in general. But the Hans, if they had made a claim, they would have received exactly 100% compensation and a huge amount of apologies and offers for future trips big discounts. They fight for every client.
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answered 14 years ago
I want to raise another topic here! Why is it that only Russo tourists have constant problems when checking into a room, only they demand baksheesh from us for what seemed like an ordinary standard. This is what the German owner of the hotel explained to me. In most hotels, the standard has a different price, something like this; SV - sea view is the most expensive, PV - pool view is a little cheaper, GV - garden view is again cheaper and favorite rooms for CIS countries Back View - road view (construction and other unsightly places). If your TO ordered exactly Back View, then you can arrange anything at the reception, but you are only required to provide a room there or if there are other rooms available, but this, as you agree, is better. Why so, I would very much like to know, but I know that apart from noodles on the ears, they won’t explain anything to us.
The funny thing is that you can initially buy as a real European in our tour company not just SV, but even Front Sea View - the first line on the sea, as a rule, is almost on the beach, but upon arrival it turns out that your hotel is five kilometers away from this very sea and again at the reception they will laugh at you like an idiot, and what else can they do, because people don’t want to hear anything.
The funny thing is that you can initially buy as a real European in our tour company not just SV, but even Front Sea View - the first line on the sea, as a rule, is almost on the beach, but upon arrival it turns out that your hotel is five kilometers away from this very sea and again at the reception they will laugh at you like an idiot, and what else can they do, because people don’t want to hear anything.
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