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I live in Turkey, I have citizenship, my Ukrainian passport has expired, I urgently need to go to my mother in Ukraine, is it possible to drive with a Turkish ID without any problems?
I live in Turkey, I have citizenship, my Ukrainian passport has expired, I urgently need to go to my mother in Ukraine, is it possible to drive with a Turkish ID without any problems?
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аватар Slav_na
so you have two citizenships?
аватар mindguru
citizens of Ukraine and citizens of the Republic of Turkey who use passports in the form of a card (ID) containing a contactless electronic medium will be able to enter, exit, transit and stay without visas in Turkey and Ukraine, respectively, for up to 90 days within 180 days
аватар Vika284
If you are a citizen of Ukraine and your Ukrainian passport has ended, then you can get a new one at any Consulate of Ukraine in Turkey and the Embassy of Ukraine in Turkey
Even if you have a second citizenship of Turkey - a Turkish citizen has the right to have more than one citizenship, then in Ukraine the second citizenship is illegal. Since you have not renounced the citizenship of Ukraine, you must enter Ukraine only with a passport of Ukraine
If a citizen of Ukraine has acquired the citizenship of another state or states, then in legal relations with Ukraine he is recognized only as a citizen of Ukraine
Make a new Ukrainian passport
аватар Vika284
Article 2. LAW OF UKRAINE "On Citizenship of Ukraine "
"Legislation of Ukraine on citizenship is based on the following principles:
1) single citizenship - citizenship of the state of Ukraine, which excludes the possibility of citizenship of administrative-territorial units of Ukraine. If a citizen of Ukraine has acquired the citizenship (citizenship) of another state or states, then in legal relations with Ukraine he is recognized only as a citizen of Ukraine. If a foreigner has acquired the citizenship of Ukraine, in legal relations with Ukraine he is recognized only as a citizen of Ukraine; "
аватар tschingiss
If the author of the question is a citizen of Ukraine, then he will be allowed into Ukraine even with an expired passport.
аватар Vika284
"If the author of the question is a citizen of Ukraine, then he will be allowed into Ukraine even with an expired passport." - then explain how to do it
To enter Ukraine, a citizen of Ukraine needs to register for a flight, for example, in Istanbul, presenting a passport of a citizen of Ukraine, but they will not be registered for a flight with an expired passport
There is an option when registering for a flight, you can present a Turkish ID card, they will register for the flight, but the Turkish border guard will definitely know that you have 2 citizenships and the rule in relations with Ukraine is that this person is a citizen of Ukraine, of course, the border guard will ask you to show a Ukrainian passport, the passport is expired and the passenger is having fun goes to the embassy or consulate of Ukraine in Turkey to make a new passport
Why intentionally violate laws and regulations when you can get a new passport in 3 days
аватар Vika284
RULES for crossing the state border by citizens of Ukraine
"If a citizen permanently residing in Ukraine,
having lost the specified documents (further - passport documents) outside
Ukraine or if the validity of such documents expired during
stay of a citizen outside Ukraine, or it is established that
they are invalid for other reasons, a document entitling to
entry into Ukraine, there is an identity card for return to Ukraine, which
issued by a diplomatic mission or consular post
Ukraine abroad. "
аватар tschingiss
Vika284, it is enough for a Turkish border guard to show Turkish documents confirming the legality of residence in Turkey. He no longer has the right to demand something, let alone conduct some kind of investigation. And Ukrainian border guards are obliged to let a citizen of Ukraine into Ukraine. Yes, they can pull the strap, hope to get some kind of bribe, threaten with fines, but in the end they are obliged to let them in.
аватар Vika284
tschingiss do you really think that a border guard officer "has no right to demand something "?
They have the right and may request additional documents if they deem it necessary.
"But they can pull the strings, hope to get some reward, threaten fines, " - read carefully the RULES of crossing the state border by citizens of Ukraine.
Once again, why deliberately violate the laws and regulations that lead to the loss of money from non-check-in to real fines, detentions and entry into the Border Services base as a violator, if it is solved easily.
аватар tschingiss
Vika284, there is the Law of Ukraine on the citizenship of Ukraine. It implies the priority of Ukrainian citizenship over citizenships of other countries. Those. a citizen of Ukraine remains a priority as a citizen of Ukraine, if he has not declared his withdrawal from the citizenship of Ukraine. In Turkey, there can be no claims against the author of the question. He is a Turkish citizen and has the right to go to his mother. In Ukraine, border guards may have claims, also referring to the Law on Citizenship. On that article of his where it is written, I will state in my own words: "if a citizen of Ukraine voluntarily acquired citizenship of another country, then he is automatically deprived of citizenship of Ukraine." Here is the stumbling block. But according to the same Law, he nevertheless remains a citizen of Ukraine until the Decree of the President of Ukraine on the termination of citizenship of Ukraine for this comrade is issued. Of course, if he is a Turkish citizen, it is better for him to enter with Turkish documents and proof of a good reason for coming. But he apparently thinks otherwise.
аватар Vika284
tschingiss read carefully:
In my first answers I mention
OF THE LAW OF UKRAINE "On Citizenship of Ukraine "
We read carefully below the RULES of crossing the state border by citizens of Ukraine - especially one of the first points is to explain what to do if a passport has expired from a citizen of Ukraine abroad.
In addition to this point, there are 2 more points that indicate that the passport must comply, otherwise "grounds for temporary detention
i seizure of a passport document "and then a fine
She first violates the Rules of Crossing the State Border
If you do not know how to do - act according to the law. The law says you need a valid passport or at least a certificate of identity from the Embassy / Consulate
аватар tschingiss
Can you imagine a picture that a citizen of Ukraine is not allowed into Ukraine? I am not a fan of arguing with a woman. Therefore, you are right, dear Vika284!
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