Never again will I throw away money for a ski holiday in Turkey! And I do not advise you. Well, they do not have the appropriate culture there. It was very cold and there was little snow. He passed once before our arrival and that's it. The slopes are bald, the lifts are disabled. The snow guns were not turned on, they were waiting for it to fall out on its own.
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Never again will I throw away money for a ski holiday in Turkey! And I do not advise you. Well, they do not have the appropriate culture there. It was very cold and there was little snow. He passed once before our arrival and that's it. The slopes are bald, the lifts are disabled. The snow guns were not turned on, they were waiting for it to fall out on its own. And he didn't fall out. We rode on one short descent, the best section of which was fenced off by the sports federation for training local teenagers. Everything is so arranged there that there is no interest in people being satisfied. Complaining and expressing dissatisfaction is useless. We have already paid for everything, regardless of whether there is snow or not. And without snow, there is absolutely nothing to do there. Excursions are all tightly connected with visits to bazaars, confectionery and jewelry shopping centers in the small unsightly town of Erzurum. It's hardly interesting. . .
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• traveled 14 years ago
Went for the second time this year. before that was last year was satisfied. the fact that with the snow did not really understand and took the risk consciously. But surprisingly, the problem was not in the snow. As tourists, everyone didn't care deeply and creatively. 1. Get drunk - tourists are not the main thing for them now! 2.
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Went for the second time this year. before that was last year was satisfied.
the fact that with the snow did not really understand and took the risk consciously.
But surprisingly, the problem was not in the snow.
As tourists, everyone didn't care deeply and creatively.
1. Get drunk - tourists are not the main thing for them now!
2. hotel and ski lifts are not connected. Let me explain, even if you were given a ski pass, you may not be allowed on the lift, citing the fact that they belong to the Turkish Sports Federation, and not to the hotel.
3. they can drive you off the only prepared track to teach local schoolchildren there.
In general, they fought all this disgrace as best they could. they called Moscow, complained to the travel agency, they opened the slopes for us, the next day they closed it again, we called again and so the whole week of our stay.
in general, it is better to go somewhere else !!!
Anna
the fact that with the snow did not really understand and took the risk consciously.
But surprisingly, the problem was not in the snow.
As tourists, everyone didn't care deeply and creatively.
1. Get drunk - tourists are not the main thing for them now!
2. hotel and ski lifts are not connected. Let me explain, even if you were given a ski pass, you may not be allowed on the lift, citing the fact that they belong to the Turkish Sports Federation, and not to the hotel.
3. they can drive you off the only prepared track to teach local schoolchildren there.
In general, they fought all this disgrace as best they could. they called Moscow, complained to the travel agency, they opened the slopes for us, the next day they closed it again, we called again and so the whole week of our stay.
in general, it is better to go somewhere else !!!
Anna
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For someone who knows how to ski and does not have time to apply for visas for skiing in the EU countries and now the EU - this place is ideal, but probably it all depends on the snow, we were lucky - we had a rest in March 2008. The hotel itself and the service meets Turkish 4 *, and the food and service are normal, the slopes are mostly spent in the morning, before the lifts start - it turns out a little hard, but after 1-2 hours the snow softens and it’s quite pleasant to ride.
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For someone who knows how to ski and does not have time to apply for visas for skiing in the EU countries and now the EU - this place is ideal, but probably it all depends on the snow, we were lucky - we had a rest in March 2008. The hotel itself and the service meets Turkish 4 *, and the food and service are normal, the slopes are mostly spent in the morning, before the lifts start - it turns out a little hard, but after 1-2 hours the snow softens and it’s quite pleasant to ride. The biggest advantage of the hotel is the location! In the reviews, people did not have enough tables in the restaurant -?? ? Full of empty seats in the restaurant, and most importantly - no queues for the lifts!! !
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The hotel is located at the top of the mountain, good for skiing, but we were not lucky. Most of the rest was a storm, we rode for 4 days, including the day of arrival. There was not enough snow, what was poured was immediately blown away by the wind. Due to bad weather, communication with the city was interrupted and food products with water were not brought up.
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The hotel is located at the top of the mountain, good for skiing, but we were not lucky. Most of the rest was a storm, we rode for 4 days, including the day of arrival. There was not enough snow, what was poured was immediately blown away by the wind. Due to bad weather, communication with the city was interrupted and food products with water were not brought up. In the mornings, not full bottles of water were served on the tables, they came across with lipstick on the neck and crumbs inside. With food, the situation is similar, there was no particular variety, it was not possible to eat. when the storm passed, it was already not particularly time for skiing, everyone started having problems with digestion. Judging by the constant smell in the corridors, we were not the only ones with stomach problems). The rooms were not cleaned very well, plus the cleaners did not miss the opportunity to use the toilet during cleaning.
The pool is small, there is a lot of bleach, the staff for massages and the pool is normal, with the exception of a woman of Kalmyk appearance. In Russian, the pool staff speak almost without an accent.
It is not possible to ride on the weekends, there is a large influx of local riders. The local public is rude and looked at the vacationers with contempt, and they behaved incorrectly on the lift....Due to the fact that there was not much snow, boards and skis were damaged by stones. The lifts are in poor condition, especially the chairlifts. Once I got up on a chair with a broken arc and everything that fastens the chair to the main stick (which weighs on a cable), I’ll tell you the sensations... I had to sit in the middle, because if you sit alone on the edge, the whole chair began to crack and roll. I remembered the number of the broken chair and went to inform the keeper of the lift about the breakdown, the reaction surprised me, I didn’t even mark it with a ribbon, waved my hand and started the lift.
The slopes are not very diverse, but if there was snow, it would not be boring even for the more or less experienced, there are quite a lot of places. The nature is not ordinary, there are practically no trees, but it is beautiful (when the weather is good). The slopes are fenced with wooden fences, in places with barbed wire! snow groomers worked little, not every day and not very well (although there was nothing special to waste)
One day we decided to ride into the city, to see what kind of city Erzurum is. The city is very old, but poor. Very dirty, beggars everywhere. There are clothing stores. some streets are like after the war, some ruins. Delicious shawarma with lamb cooked on an open fire. Few people understand English, but master cards are accepted almost everywhere. The city left a double impression, but it was still interesting. The driving culture is frightening, it was scary in a taxi, especially when going down the mountain (the broken-down taxis barely drove up the mountain).
Internet in the bar is free, but very slow, you can only get out in ICQ, you will check your mail for an hour.
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The pool is small, there is a lot of bleach, the staff for massages and the pool is normal, with the exception of a woman of Kalmyk appearance. In Russian, the pool staff speak almost without an accent.
It is not possible to ride on the weekends, there is a large influx of local riders. The local public is rude and looked at the vacationers with contempt, and they behaved incorrectly on the lift....Due to the fact that there was not much snow, boards and skis were damaged by stones. The lifts are in poor condition, especially the chairlifts. Once I got up on a chair with a broken arc and everything that fastens the chair to the main stick (which weighs on a cable), I’ll tell you the sensations... I had to sit in the middle, because if you sit alone on the edge, the whole chair began to crack and roll. I remembered the number of the broken chair and went to inform the keeper of the lift about the breakdown, the reaction surprised me, I didn’t even mark it with a ribbon, waved my hand and started the lift.
The slopes are not very diverse, but if there was snow, it would not be boring even for the more or less experienced, there are quite a lot of places. The nature is not ordinary, there are practically no trees, but it is beautiful (when the weather is good). The slopes are fenced with wooden fences, in places with barbed wire! snow groomers worked little, not every day and not very well (although there was nothing special to waste)
One day we decided to ride into the city, to see what kind of city Erzurum is. The city is very old, but poor. Very dirty, beggars everywhere. There are clothing stores. some streets are like after the war, some ruins. Delicious shawarma with lamb cooked on an open fire. Few people understand English, but master cards are accepted almost everywhere. The city left a double impression, but it was still interesting. The driving culture is frightening, it was scary in a taxi, especially when going down the mountain (the broken-down taxis barely drove up the mountain).
Internet in the bar is free, but very slow, you can only get out in ICQ, you will check your mail for an hour.
Okay, I signed something. There will be questions write
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I was apprehensive after reading previous reviews. So rest, departure from Msk was delayed for 2 hours, however, the departure from Erzurum was also delayed for the same time. Transfer is ok. By the way, in Erzurum, duty free is not a big stall, so if anyone expects to stock up on the way back, you will be disappointed.
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I was apprehensive after reading previous reviews.
So rest, departure from Msk was delayed for 2 hours, however, the departure from Erzurum was also delayed for the same time. Transfer is ok. By the way, in Erzurum, duty free is not a big stall, so if anyone expects to stock up on the way back, you will be disappointed.
The hotel (we rested in the ski resort that is at the top) the hotel works out its normal 4 stars. The staff is polite, almost everyone understands Russian, and 80% of the hotel guests are Russian tourists. Room cleaning daily. Conveniently located and well thought out. You can leave the room in slippers and get into the ski room, from the ski room directly to the ski lift, or go down the slope to other lifts. Not a convenience - they clean up after dinner. . . Meals for their stars, varied and tasty. Entertainment, animation and some kind of programs every evening, but I can’t judge. didn't go. Internet in the lobby and cafes, you can take backgammon and chess, smoke a hookah.
Sauna and Turkish bath, everything is perfectly clean and tidy, in the pool the water is really heavily chlorinated, it is better to visit after 21:00, because. at this time there is practically no one there, the largest influx is from 17 to 20 pm. They do massage well, but you shouldn’t take programs for every day, even if you are tempted with a discount) It’s just that every day it’s still broken to do it there, and it’s even better to take the cheapest massages (it’s not always what is cheaper is worse) Gym and exercise equipment in good working order. Excursions - you can go to the mineral spring. There is nothing to do in the city, if only to visit local restaurants and eat meat there, they cook very tasty. Taxi from hotel $20 one way. Hotel rates. A pack of parliament $9, a bottle of water 1.5 liters 4.5, mulled wine 7, a cocktail in a bar about 30, a can of cola 5, a hookah 15, a massage from 35 to 80. Well, stuff like that. A bottle of wine is about 80 - 90 dollars, champagne is about 100. have lunch in a cafe on the slope of 35 dollars. Sunblock $65. So if you want to save money - take everything with you) In general, if you compare with the prices in the city - the difference is 2 times
Ski rental for a week $150 per person. If there is a need to change - they change without problems.
Now as for the actual skiing, trails and skiing. Skis for hire - you can pick up a state of 4. If not a running size, then 5. Instructor services $ 70 per hour, but you can bargain, talked with one tourist, 10 days at $ 40 per hour. The question is - but you need it)) It's easier to learn using the advice of friends, and you can just get to know someone (as I said, Russians rest a lot there)
Lifts, almost all worked, except for one, but it is not really needed. The only thing is that the lifts that went to the very top started working later and finished earlier. And a couple of times they were turned off due to weather conditions, fog, strong wind.
The condition of the tracks - they spend every day twice at lunch and in the late afternoon, they monitor the condition. Snow cannons are present. But I have never seen him at work, because there was a lot of snow, though on the last day a bald spot with stones was found near the track, where it flew out safely... So, minimal caution should still be observed. There are a lot of people on the slopes only on weekends, many locals come and bring children, but there is no queue for the lifts. The maximum that threatens 2-4 minutes of waiting.
Difficulty of tracks. Here it is difficult for me to judge, because. I was the first to start skiing, it was enough for me))) But I saw VERY few people on the slopes marked as black) they mostly ride on blue and orange ones. There are places for off-piste skiing. There are also places for snowboarders. At least on the slopes marked in orange, the angle of inclination reaches approximately 65 degrees. We were pleased with the blue tracks with their length, the tracks are planned in such a way that, for example, from blue you can get to orange or black, or vice versa.
I think it's the perfect place to learn to ski.
That's all, if you have any questions - write t-2@rambler. ru
So rest, departure from Msk was delayed for 2 hours, however, the departure from Erzurum was also delayed for the same time. Transfer is ok. By the way, in Erzurum, duty free is not a big stall, so if anyone expects to stock up on the way back, you will be disappointed.
The hotel (we rested in the ski resort that is at the top) the hotel works out its normal 4 stars. The staff is polite, almost everyone understands Russian, and 80% of the hotel guests are Russian tourists. Room cleaning daily. Conveniently located and well thought out. You can leave the room in slippers and get into the ski room, from the ski room directly to the ski lift, or go down the slope to other lifts. Not a convenience - they clean up after dinner. . . Meals for their stars, varied and tasty. Entertainment, animation and some kind of programs every evening, but I can’t judge. didn't go. Internet in the lobby and cafes, you can take backgammon and chess, smoke a hookah.
Sauna and Turkish bath, everything is perfectly clean and tidy, in the pool the water is really heavily chlorinated, it is better to visit after 21:00, because. at this time there is practically no one there, the largest influx is from 17 to 20 pm. They do massage well, but you shouldn’t take programs for every day, even if you are tempted with a discount) It’s just that every day it’s still broken to do it there, and it’s even better to take the cheapest massages (it’s not always what is cheaper is worse) Gym and exercise equipment in good working order. Excursions - you can go to the mineral spring. There is nothing to do in the city, if only to visit local restaurants and eat meat there, they cook very tasty. Taxi from hotel $20 one way. Hotel rates. A pack of parliament $9, a bottle of water 1.5 liters 4.5, mulled wine 7, a cocktail in a bar about 30, a can of cola 5, a hookah 15, a massage from 35 to 80. Well, stuff like that. A bottle of wine is about 80 - 90 dollars, champagne is about 100. have lunch in a cafe on the slope of 35 dollars. Sunblock $65. So if you want to save money - take everything with you) In general, if you compare with the prices in the city - the difference is 2 times
Ski rental for a week $150 per person. If there is a need to change - they change without problems.
Now as for the actual skiing, trails and skiing. Skis for hire - you can pick up a state of 4. If not a running size, then 5. Instructor services $ 70 per hour, but you can bargain, talked with one tourist, 10 days at $ 40 per hour. The question is - but you need it)) It's easier to learn using the advice of friends, and you can just get to know someone (as I said, Russians rest a lot there)
Lifts, almost all worked, except for one, but it is not really needed. The only thing is that the lifts that went to the very top started working later and finished earlier. And a couple of times they were turned off due to weather conditions, fog, strong wind.
The condition of the tracks - they spend every day twice at lunch and in the late afternoon, they monitor the condition. Snow cannons are present. But I have never seen him at work, because there was a lot of snow, though on the last day a bald spot with stones was found near the track, where it flew out safely... So, minimal caution should still be observed. There are a lot of people on the slopes only on weekends, many locals come and bring children, but there is no queue for the lifts. The maximum that threatens 2-4 minutes of waiting.
Difficulty of tracks. Here it is difficult for me to judge, because. I was the first to start skiing, it was enough for me))) But I saw VERY few people on the slopes marked as black) they mostly ride on blue and orange ones. There are places for off-piste skiing. There are also places for snowboarders. At least on the slopes marked in orange, the angle of inclination reaches approximately 65 degrees. We were pleased with the blue tracks with their length, the tracks are planned in such a way that, for example, from blue you can get to orange or black, or vice versa.
I think it's the perfect place to learn to ski.
That's all, if you have any questions - write t-2@rambler. ru
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We were in Dedeman Sky Resort, everything is fine, but 7 nights is not enough, the weather was super all the time of our stay. The faces were tanned like they had been to Egypt. The service is basically so-so, but we didn’t go for that. even the ski lift in front of the hotel will be a bit much experience, since it has different degrees of difficulty from different sides of the slope.
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We were in Dedeman Sky Resort, everything is fine, but 7 nights is not enough, the weather was super all the time of our stay. The faces were tanned like they had been to Egypt. The service is basically so-so, but we didn’t go for that. even the ski lift in front of the hotel will be a bit much experience, since it has different degrees of difficulty from different sides of the slope. All slopes in the hotel area are free (when we received the keys to the room, we were given ski passes for all slopes). The only thing that was paid was the gundoll from the hotel Polan (Erzurum) to the highest point of the mountain (Edzher Peak). This point could be reached by a free chair with one transfer from the Dedeman Hotel.
If you like to drink, then I recommend it, it’s better to take care of it in advance, for example, go to the city to buy in a supermarket, beer $ 1.6, whiskey $ 60 per liter or duty free on departure, since beer costs $ 7 at the hotel , whiskey $ 12 for a portion outside lunch and dinner (wine and beer are included in lunch and dinner). The food was not bad in principle, the hotel operates on the FB system (breakfast, lunch, dinner). The staff is friendly, there were no conflicts.
So if you are not picky, you will love this hotel!!! !
If you like to drink, then I recommend it, it’s better to take care of it in advance, for example, go to the city to buy in a supermarket, beer $ 1.6, whiskey $ 60 per liter or duty free on departure, since beer costs $ 7 at the hotel , whiskey $ 12 for a portion outside lunch and dinner (wine and beer are included in lunch and dinner). The food was not bad in principle, the hotel operates on the FB system (breakfast, lunch, dinner). The staff is friendly, there were no conflicts.
So if you are not picky, you will love this hotel!!! !
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There is an intestinal infection in the hotel, all the kids get infected! Our child had vomiting, diarrhea and fever for 5 days, so far (2 weeks have passed) we are being treated for the consequences of the disease.
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There is an intestinal infection in the hotel, all the kids get infected! Our child had vomiting, diarrhea and fever for 5 days, so far (2 weeks have passed) we are being treated for the consequences of the disease.
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I had to celebrate the New Year away from home. There was a lot of snow, there were enough lifts. Great slopes, slopes of varying difficulty. For my first skiing on such slopes, it's just super. I learned to ski very easily. And after the mountains to the sauna and in the morning back to the mountains.
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I had to celebrate the New Year away from home. There was a lot of snow, there were enough lifts. Great slopes, slopes of varying difficulty.
For my first skiing on such slopes, it's just super. I learned to ski very easily. And after the mountains to the sauna and in the morning back to the mountains.
For my first skiing on such slopes, it's just super. I learned to ski very easily. And after the mountains to the sauna and in the morning back to the mountains.
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In general, the hotel made a good impression, although there were some incidents. For example, have you ever seen double-glazed windows glued??!! ! Yes, even with ordinary transparent tape ? ! During gusts of wind, a snowball swept into the room. but without opening the window we breathed in the fresh mountain air.
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In general, the hotel made a good impression, although there were some incidents. For example, have you ever seen double-glazed windows glued??!! ! Yes, even with ordinary transparent tape ? ! During gusts of wind, a snowball swept into the room. but without opening the window we breathed in the fresh mountain air. : )
We were a bit unlucky with the weather. The first two days there was sunshine and a light breeze, but then the weather deteriorated and the remaining five days the wind gusts reached 25-27 m/s. In general, going to palandoken you should be ready for anything. The weather there is a real lottery.
On the slopes and ski lifts.... There are practically no good words here. . . Let's start with the fact that not a single chair lift has a normal platform for boarding and disembarking (!!!!! ). To sit in a chair or leave it, you need to crouch so that your knees are higher than your head. Yes, and on the legs when landing a chair beats well.
Tracks....Well, there is one. Directly from the hotel. The Turks cherish and cherish this route. But there are such people in the suburbs and there is no need to go so far at all. And the rest are so-so.
Black with a good drop, but a little short and the Turks do not deal with them at all. People roll and roll them themselves. And there are more than enough stones on them !! ! Especially at the top. In short, there are conditions, but there is no desire and technology! So it turns out that the people are content with what they have and do not grumble, and the Turks are satisfied with this state of affairs. By the way, in the end, a phrase from the lips of a Turk - an instructor that characterizes everything: "The best mountain vacation in palandoken! YOU pay - WE (Turks) RELAX! "
We were a bit unlucky with the weather. The first two days there was sunshine and a light breeze, but then the weather deteriorated and the remaining five days the wind gusts reached 25-27 m/s. In general, going to palandoken you should be ready for anything. The weather there is a real lottery.
On the slopes and ski lifts.... There are practically no good words here. . . Let's start with the fact that not a single chair lift has a normal platform for boarding and disembarking (!!!!! ). To sit in a chair or leave it, you need to crouch so that your knees are higher than your head. Yes, and on the legs when landing a chair beats well.
Tracks....Well, there is one. Directly from the hotel. The Turks cherish and cherish this route. But there are such people in the suburbs and there is no need to go so far at all. And the rest are so-so.
Black with a good drop, but a little short and the Turks do not deal with them at all. People roll and roll them themselves. And there are more than enough stones on them !! ! Especially at the top. In short, there are conditions, but there is no desire and technology! So it turns out that the people are content with what they have and do not grumble, and the Turks are satisfied with this state of affairs. By the way, in the end, a phrase from the lips of a Turk - an instructor that characterizes everything: "The best mountain vacation in palandoken! YOU pay - WE (Turks) RELAX! "
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Everyone enthusiastically writes that Dedeman is right at the ski lift. But the lift is a ski lift, a slide with a height difference of 100 meters. There are only children and teapots. You still need to get to normal slopes on other ski lifts, which are not included in the price when staying in Dedeman. Civilized rest only in "Palan" and "Chamber".
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Everyone enthusiastically writes that Dedeman is right at the ski lift. But the lift is a ski lift, a slide with a height difference of 100 meters. There are only children and teapots. You still need to get to normal slopes on other ski lifts, which are not included in the price when staying in Dedeman.
Civilized rest only in "Palan" and "Chamber".
Civilized rest only in "Palan" and "Chamber".
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