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Tell me please. What are the prices for ex. to Israel from Kemer from street guides?
Tell me please. What are the prices for ex. to Israel from Kemer from street guides?
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5 subscribers  • asked 2012-08-2212 years ago
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аватар toxic
in 2011 there were 240 for one, now I don’t know
аватар sandra-art
somewhere around 230. there was such a question last week
аватар nadya_gorizont
When buying excursions from street guides, it should be borne in mind that many tour operators have insurance only if they purchase excursions from hotel guides (Anex-tour, for example)
аватар sandra-art
nonsense! divorce of suckers of the representative of the tour operator. so as not to buy cheap tours in street agencies. and it is a pity that many are being conducted. at the moment, I have just the contract between Anex and the insurance company Providna in front of me.
insurance is distributed throughout the country. BUT
1. if you are under the influence of alcohol (or drugs), it does not work. how long alcohol is excreted from the body can be read on the Internet.
insurance is the cheapest and does not cover sports. that is, even riding a water scooter, insurance does not work. and if you buy some kind of extreme excursion even from a tour operator, you must sign an additional insurance contract.
аватар RBK2012
sandra art +100
аватар abalakov
Bought on 08/09/2012. Pegasus if 2 people $ 329. (As we were told if three people are traveling, the rooms are designed for two, therefore with a surcharge of $ 339. We went with Ginza, it turned out, taking into account the purchase of three tours, $ 870 for three. But I warn you! A tour to Istanbul was bought, we stood in the morning (at 6 o'clock), waited an hour for a transfer to the airport, no one came for us!
аватар andreyf007
sandra-art,
you write nonsense :(
And the word "divorce " in this context sounds brutal.
Maybe, unfortunately, but nadya_gorizont is right. The fact is that neither the operator nor the insurance company can simply be held responsible for the actions of street companies.
In a situation where the tourist voluntarily agrees to the tours offered by any street companies, he agrees to the risk that awaits him during the tour. In what condition is the tour bus, for example?
If something happens, why should the insurance company compensate for the damage? Not that she is not guilty, she is not obliged. Since the tourist agreed to voluntarily sit in it.
Therefore, no one will compensate for the losses.
What you, sandra-art, read the Agreement, you do correctly, but ...
If you already move to a specific agreement ...
§ 4.4 - in which cases the costs are not paid:
§ 4.4.
1 the Insurer shall not reimburse the expenses related to the circumstances of which the Insured is aware, but has not taken all measures to prevent the occurrence of the insured event ... "
Excursion is a risk. The tourist voluntarily agrees to it, and knows about this risk. Therefore, the insurance does NOT work in this case. :(
аватар RBK2012
andreyf007
A walk through the city or hotel area, a taxi or public transport trip, etc. etc. it is also a risk. If a tourist is hit by a car or something like that "The Insured knew, but did not take all measures to prevent the occurrence of the insured event ... ")))))
аватар andreyf007
RBK2012, No, you're wrong...
the word "risk" has a definition in jurisprudence.
A walk around the hotel.... does not belong to the risk. :)
аватар sandra-art
Andrey, according to your logic, the tourist is insured only at the hotel.
and in the insurance contract it is written throughout Turkey.
and according to your own logic - why would an insurance company pay damages if I bought an excursion from Anex and the bus had an accident. I wasn't at the hotel. etc.
I'm going abroad for 2-3 months and I do the insurance myself. so my insurance contract in the same Providnaya is no different from the Aneks contract ...
and knowing how our fellow citizens know how to relax, I can assume that walking around the hotel in the evening is a greater risk than on excursions ...
аватар andreyf007
sandra art,
this is not according to my logic ... if you or a tourist buys an excursion from Anex or from another tour operator, he cannot predict events that fall under the jurisdiction associated with the word "risk" ..., and in this case clause 4.4 of the Agreement. 1, that "the tourist knew about the risk, but did not take appropriate actions to eliminate it ..." is not valid, and the insurance is paid.
Many really do not understand why this action is interpreted in this way. The answer to this question is the existence of a tour operator agreement with travel companies that receive tourists in a particular country. It's not specifically about Anex Tour.
The excursion is bought from the receiving party, with which the operator in Ukraine has an Agreement, is not a risk for the tourist!!! If the tour is bought from a company with which there is no contract, this is a risk.
Each operator in Ukraine has a receiving party, for example, in Turkey. Anex Tour, the host in Turkey - Anex Tour, Coral Travel - Odeon Tours, etc.
аватар sandra-art
you are now considering everything only from the point that the bus had an accident.
let's say another situation - I broke my leg on an excursion from a street company. returned to the hotel called an ambulance and said that she had fallen down the stairs. all. insurance will be paid.
an acquaintance with whom he was resting in Belek himself went to poop in the Rixos water park, where he unsuccessfully slid down the hill and injured his neck, they called an ambulance at the hotel, gave the policy - they called everywhere themselves. hotels for him, I don’t remember the name of the garbage for fixing the neck and that’s it. no one even asked how it happened and where.
friends in Alanya bought a yacht ride on the street, Pashka dived, his ear hurt wildly. Doctors came, looked, gave drops and that's it. Again, no one asked.
and there are a lot of stories in reverse order, when an insured event happened in a hotel and then there was a conflict of the parties and the money was not paid or paid after litigation.
and explain to me Andrey - if I’m driving, as I used to go myself, without a travel agency, renting apartments in some country and just walking around the city, and a drunk motorcyclist knocks me down on the sidewalk. who is guilty? and I won’t get money for insurance, because I didn’t live in a hotel and walked around the city?
аватар andreyf007
I hope that this will never happen to you, and you will not meet a drunk motorcyclist on the way, but in this particular case, if you are on the sidewalk, the insurance will pay out.
And what I wrote above applies not only to the bus. During the tour, there may be different situations ...
аватар RBK2012
Andrew, you are talking about different things. The host side of the tour operator, and companies that cooperate with insurance companies, are two different things.
Our discussion will lead nowhere. Go before a trip abroad to any insurance company and insure yourself, a one-on-one contract, as in the package.
I understand you, as an employee of the tourist industry, you care about the earnings of guides)))
аватар andreyf007
RBK2012,
You are wrong, I don’t care about the earnings of hotel guides. :)))
аватар sandra-art
I just called a friend at ERV insurance. so here. insurance, as I said, is valid throughout the country where you are going. for minor insured events like colds, ears, etc. no one will ask you anything and take tests too.
and the fact that insurance is valid only when buying excursions from a tour operator is nonsense. that's what the insurance company said
If you don't believe me, call and find out
аватар andreyf007
sandra art,
RBK2012 correctly wrote that, Our discussion will lead nowhere...
I warned you, it's up to you...
And nonsense or not nonsense, those who, contrary to warnings, do it in their own way will recognize it.
And in general, it is better not to get into situations when you have to contact insurance companies ...
аватар RBK2012
andreyf007 and sandra-art,
Personally, I always advise my tourists to buy excursions from the host (for me, first of all, it’s calmer). If, God forbid, something happens to tourists, I know who they were with and where. But I never say that in other cases the insurance does not work, because this is not true and it will be confirmed by any insurance company.
I propose to end our discussion on this)))
Have a good day and grateful tourists!
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