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booked a hotel through the official website of the hotel
We booked a room in the main building, it turned out cheaper than through a tour operator. Tell me, has anyone had such a rest, were there any difficulties during the settlement?
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answered 11 years ago
Did you buy plane tickets? If not, don't delay it, maintenance charters book entire boards, regular flights are more expensive, but there are not many of them.
Airfare + round-trip transfer + hotel should be more expensive than TO. Write, please, how you actually get it.
Airfare + round-trip transfer + hotel should be more expensive than TO. Write, please, how you actually get it.
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answered 11 years ago
There has already been some talk about what is cheaper ...
It would be better to calmly book through TO.
It would be better to calmly book through TO.
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answered 11 years ago
Saved on a hotel, you will lose on a flight and an individual transfer. Still, Turkey and Yegi are better through TO.
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answered 11 years ago
Many thanks for responding to my question, especially TombArtur, very informative and, most importantly, everything is clear. But I would like to know the opinion of those tourists who just have a rest, without maintenance, for us this is the first time. This year we decided to go by early booking, because. cheaper and he himself advised TO, the girls working there do just that. TO made us an offer (30 nights, 2 adults and 2 children aged 4 and 11) about 300 tr. at the villa. On the site we booked for 195 tr. in the main building + flight and transfer to the hotel and back about 5-6t.r. Plane tickets, of course, came out more expensive, but a regular flight. Yes, and even insurance, I looked at about 1.5-2 tr per person. According to my calculations, we save over 50 tr. Plus, one adult will leave us in 15 days, another will arrive in his place, this is an individual calculation for TO, I didn’t even ask how much it could cost, I think it’s even more expensive ...
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answered 11 years ago
And how much did tickets for the regular season cost if you save about 50 thousand?
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answered 11 years ago
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So why are you comparing the villa with the main building?
Booked through TO room in the building.
They tell you that everything has already been calculated. Through TO to Turkey it turns out no more expensive than booking it yourself. But you don't want to listen...
**Plus, we have one adult leaving in 15 days, another will come in his place**
It's not at all clear what it is. For the hotel, it will be a different person, which means a new payment. The booking then goes according to the passport. And this "other" of yours will also fly by plane and then by taxi to the hotel.
I don’t understand where your benefit is and in what way?
And you have a very strange THAT, in which the girls themselves fly ... Does THAT really not give a discount to its employees? )))
In a word, you have many contradictions. Most likely, the truth looks like this - they wanted to take a chance, go on their own, without maintenance, but in the end they made a mistake. But now you don’t want to admit it ... Nothing, you will be wiser in the future.
So why are you comparing the villa with the main building?
Booked through TO room in the building.
They tell you that everything has already been calculated. Through TO to Turkey it turns out no more expensive than booking it yourself. But you don't want to listen...
**Plus, we have one adult leaving in 15 days, another will come in his place**
It's not at all clear what it is. For the hotel, it will be a different person, which means a new payment. The booking then goes according to the passport. And this "other" of yours will also fly by plane and then by taxi to the hotel.
I don’t understand where your benefit is and in what way?
And you have a very strange THAT, in which the girls themselves fly ... Does THAT really not give a discount to its employees? )))
In a word, you have many contradictions. Most likely, the truth looks like this - they wanted to take a chance, go on their own, without maintenance, but in the end they made a mistake. But now you don’t want to admit it ... Nothing, you will be wiser in the future.
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answered 11 years ago
Bought through Aeroflot for 2 vz. and 2 children turned out 51 tr. + one more adult 14 tr. There were also Turkish air lines they had cheaper, but not by much. We haven’t flown anywhere yet and therefore I can’t say whether we made a mistake or not, but I was closely involved in this issue and maybe we were just lucky with this hotel, I don’t know, but so far it’s cheaper. and for a new person you don’t need to pay extra, and I called up and corresponded with the hotel managers, they only said that they would make changes about the guests and that’s it. That is why I asked to respond only to those people who rest in exactly the same way as I did now, and I don’t need advice that is based on what I read in the forums, I read everything myself and know .... Thank you)))
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answered 11 years ago
The author, you have a muddy TO, if he advises his clients to resolve issues without their participation, and the employees of this TO have to do the same. At Aeroflot, only charters fly to Antalya during the season. Sharp objections to the allowance "the fool himself" is not an argument, indicate the flight number, do not take it for work.
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answered 11 years ago
flight there SU 2142 back SU 2145, to be honest now I’m not sure that regular flights, I thought that Aeroflot didn’t have a charter, and I don’t know where to look, nothing is indicated on the ticket. THIS is not cloudy for me, I have been flying through it for a long time, just last year we were faced with the fact that when choosing a hotel two months in advance, many of the ones they liked ended up in a STOP, so they mentioned about early booking, and that they say they fly like that. Therefore, this year I approached the issue of rest in advance, turned to TO, they sent me prices, reading reviews about the hotel, I wandered onto the hotel website, there was a phone number, I called, then they wrote me off and sent me the price for my dates. And we decided to try to book ourselves, I hope everything will be fine and they are waiting for us there, the reservation was sent to us by mail ...
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answered 11 years ago
Four-digit flights are charters, regular flights are three-digit. But do not worry, Aeroflot is a good airline, the best in our country, and a charter is not bad, just look at the airport website to see if the departure time has changed and everything will be fine.
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answered 11 years ago
Yes, when we arrived in Utopia, I greeted the reception staff in Turkish "merhaba" and we had a wonderful room in a nice villa.
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answered 11 years ago
This is what we are talking about, that no benefit is obtained if you fly by yourself, without maintenance. At the end of your vacation, you will only go to the Aeroflot website and check if the time of departure from Antalya has changed for you so as not to be late for the plane ...
Not only is there practically no profit in terms of money, but there are more worries ...
Have a good rest, of course, but I assure you that this is your last experience of flying to Turkey on your own ...
Not only is there practically no profit in terms of money, but there are more worries ...
Have a good rest, of course, but I assure you that this is your last experience of flying to Turkey on your own ...
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answered 11 years ago
Absolutely nonsense. No one will meet, no one will remind, no one will send .... oh what a risk. I don’t know how they bought tickets for charters, they are bought by tour operators in bulk. Yes, and the girls from the travel agency meant RB tour operator, not hotels. The hotel is booked by the Turks themselves, and then not all, but those nearby. Who needs such a vacation with such nerves and problems, running around and collecting. Horror!
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answered 11 years ago
I bought a ticket on the Aeroflot website, there were no problems, and as it turned out I bought it for a charter. An individual transfer does not scare you. we already went to Vietnam like this, and he didn’t meet us right away, we even managed to worry a little, but then we found each other, and everything went fine, we paid the driver personally, and ordered an individual transfer through TO. Now we are planning to order a taxi through the hotel managers, their website says how much it will cost. I also meant RB through TO, maybe I didn’t put it correctly. I agree that this is a risk, but if we save a tidy sum on this, in my opinion, I’m ready to take a risk ... I gave all the calculations above, we fly in early July, if anyone is interested, ask your MOT and calculate the difference. We booked a room in the main building, it is more expensive. RB at the hotel until January 31, then prices will be higher. Good luck to everyone who is already planning their vacation...
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answered 11 years ago
what on the person attacked?! if there is real savings - why bother with MOT ?! the world did not converge on them like a wedge. half the world books hotels on their own and have a wonderful rest even without maintenance. and look at the time of departure on your own - not such a problem. Have a good rest and share your impressions later, OK?
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answered 11 years ago
Moreover, they attacked their own, tourists. Ah ah ah.
OK. Seriously. I, as an employee of the tourist industry, have always been interested in such questions. Does the TO-TA scheme have economic prerequisites.
I glanced at the prices. I can't calculate the topicaster tour - there is not enough data. I calculated the tour from June 1 for 4 weeks for 2 adults and 2 children 4 and 11 years old with a flight from Moscow, this hotel, Hotel Standard Room (by the way, villas are cheaper, so you don’t need to smile at the reception)
At Koral, a full package (flight, transfer, insurance, accommodation) costs 8842 dollars. Not sure if this is the best price. On such a tour, you can easily get a discount of up to 7%. Total - 8220.
Utopia, indeed, now has discounts of up to 45% on accommodation. Such accommodation costs 4860 dollars. Tickets from Aeroflot for such a train 2194. Transfers and insurance - 400 dollars. Total - 7460 dollars.
Savings - 760 dollars. It's about 10%. Everything is a little rounded.
But all this is possible under the condition that
- the hotel has such a big discount - 45%. Without this discount, only accommodation on the hotel website costs 8850 dollars.
- Aeroflot has an optimum tariff or budget. There is no budget for the flight 2142 indicated here for June 1, and only 4 seats remain for the optimum.
OK. Seriously. I, as an employee of the tourist industry, have always been interested in such questions. Does the TO-TA scheme have economic prerequisites.
I glanced at the prices. I can't calculate the topicaster tour - there is not enough data. I calculated the tour from June 1 for 4 weeks for 2 adults and 2 children 4 and 11 years old with a flight from Moscow, this hotel, Hotel Standard Room (by the way, villas are cheaper, so you don’t need to smile at the reception)
At Koral, a full package (flight, transfer, insurance, accommodation) costs 8842 dollars. Not sure if this is the best price. On such a tour, you can easily get a discount of up to 7%. Total - 8220.
Utopia, indeed, now has discounts of up to 45% on accommodation. Such accommodation costs 4860 dollars. Tickets from Aeroflot for such a train 2194. Transfers and insurance - 400 dollars. Total - 7460 dollars.
Savings - 760 dollars. It's about 10%. Everything is a little rounded.
But all this is possible under the condition that
- the hotel has such a big discount - 45%. Without this discount, only accommodation on the hotel website costs 8850 dollars.
- Aeroflot has an optimum tariff or budget. There is no budget for the flight 2142 indicated here for June 1, and only 4 seats remain for the optimum.
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answered 11 years ago
Sorry, staying for 4 weeks at the hotel is 200 dollars cheaper (I looked first for a month then switched to 4 weeks). Those. savings - 960 dollars.
Still - at the hotel, these discounts are valid until the end of January.
Coral until the end of February.
I have a question sveta123ivanova. Did you pay the hotel by card? Such an amount?
The Utopia website also says: *The percentage of the discount will be available on the screen after choosing the payment method. "What kind of discount did you get? I was too lazy to check - a kind of booking at the hotel. To put it mildly.
Still - at the hotel, these discounts are valid until the end of January.
Coral until the end of February.
I have a question sveta123ivanova. Did you pay the hotel by card? Such an amount?
The Utopia website also says: *The percentage of the discount will be available on the screen after choosing the payment method. "What kind of discount did you get? I was too lazy to check - a kind of booking at the hotel. To put it mildly.
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answered 11 years ago
I paid from the card, through online booking, I specially put only 200 tr on the card. wrote off 195 tr. so that they didn’t deceive about a 45% discount, somewhere it happened. Tickets for four cost me $1,510. Plus transfer and insurance, as you noticed 400 dollars. It turns out savings of 30-40 tr for me, this is also money. When I get back from vacation, I'll post how it went. Thanks to all those who supported me)))
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answered 11 years ago
If it were money for you, then you would not have taken a ticket for 30 days, but would have taken like many for 7-14 days. There is such a saying Greedy pays twice ... Moreover, going to Utopia for a month is a utopia .The hotel is isolated from civilization. My friends go to Turkey for 3-4 weeks, and take tours to 2 hotels for a change. And everything is somehow not smart with you ... sorry.
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answered 11 years ago
These are not arguments, these are emotions.
sveta123ivanova, no need to respond to emotions.
18061968a - each person has his own travel truth. This is fine. It is not normal to consider your own truth as the only one.
Pay attention to the composition of tourists at sveta123ivanova. A family with children is traveling, then one of the adults leaves, the other arrives. Children are taken to the sea. Why should they move from hotel to hotel with their children if everything in Utopia suits them.
For example, on the third day in one hotel I start to get bored. But at the same time, I do not consider lovers of long rests to be utopians.
Once upon a time, I was struck by German pensioners who live in hotels in Turkey all winter. But I quickly understood it.
sveta123ivanova, no need to respond to emotions.
18061968a - each person has his own travel truth. This is fine. It is not normal to consider your own truth as the only one.
Pay attention to the composition of tourists at sveta123ivanova. A family with children is traveling, then one of the adults leaves, the other arrives. Children are taken to the sea. Why should they move from hotel to hotel with their children if everything in Utopia suits them.
For example, on the third day in one hotel I start to get bored. But at the same time, I do not consider lovers of long rests to be utopians.
Once upon a time, I was struck by German pensioners who live in hotels in Turkey all winter. But I quickly understood it.
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answered 11 years ago
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I also heard about German pensioners. It's true.
But on this issue, I will still remain of my opinion, though everyone has their own, as you noticed. My truth is that it is more reliable to travel through TO and there is no and cannot be any financial benefit in an independent trip to Turkey. I am sure that sveta123ivanova will come back to haunt her.
For "the smart one learns from the mistakes of others", and the fool learns from his own.
Volumes have already been written about self-booking Turkish hotels and all the troubles ...
I also heard about German pensioners. It's true.
But on this issue, I will still remain of my opinion, though everyone has their own, as you noticed. My truth is that it is more reliable to travel through TO and there is no and cannot be any financial benefit in an independent trip to Turkey. I am sure that sveta123ivanova will come back to haunt her.
For "the smart one learns from the mistakes of others", and the fool learns from his own.
Volumes have already been written about self-booking Turkish hotels and all the troubles ...
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answered 11 years ago
Especially with children and without any kind of insurance in a foreign country. And what emotions are you writing about? These are not my relatives, I am not a representative of TO ... I am an ordinary tourist who goes on vacation every year. Moreover, there were 2 times in Utopia, We love her very much ... but 12 days a year.
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answered 11 years ago
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I support. TO at least have insurance against non-departure, it costs a penny. And anything can happen. And with a reservation through a hotel in a similar situation, you can tell your money - good bye ...
And it was rightly noted - the miser pays twice ...
I support. TO at least have insurance against non-departure, it costs a penny. And anything can happen. And with a reservation through a hotel in a similar situation, you can tell your money - good bye ...
And it was rightly noted - the miser pays twice ...
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answered 11 years ago
sveta123ivanova - Yes, she does everything right! I was in Southeast Asia, I have experience of independent trips, there are savings - what else do you need?
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answered 11 years ago
Thanks to HotLine for the final calculations. From my own experience - I always buy a ticket if I go to a 5 * hotel with a child for 14 days - all inclusive. A ticket in the season turns out to be more profitable, because. and the hotel and tickets are very expensive separately - and everything is in the package and there is also a transfer with insurance. But for short vacations of 5-6 days - I book it myself.
Gets money
10 300r - Aeroflot ticket for a regular flight (out of season and not on holidays). In season - Transaero charter - approximately 14,500 rubles
5 000r - transfer from the hotel (approximately 60 euros one way)
50 euros a room per night for two with breakfast - a hotel in Side - by the sea, on the promenade, family plan, clean, with a patio - breakfast is also served under the grapes there). Total 250 euros for two for 5 nights for the hotel.
I really like the location of the hotel, convenient flight. I think that out of season, at about the same price, you can buy a ticket. There is no special benefit. But, for me, the convenience is that I myself choose the date of departure and arrival, and my favorite hotel. It has no tours.
Gets money
10 300r - Aeroflot ticket for a regular flight (out of season and not on holidays). In season - Transaero charter - approximately 14,500 rubles
5 000r - transfer from the hotel (approximately 60 euros one way)
50 euros a room per night for two with breakfast - a hotel in Side - by the sea, on the promenade, family plan, clean, with a patio - breakfast is also served under the grapes there). Total 250 euros for two for 5 nights for the hotel.
I really like the location of the hotel, convenient flight. I think that out of season, at about the same price, you can buy a ticket. There is no special benefit. But, for me, the convenience is that I myself choose the date of departure and arrival, and my favorite hotel. It has no tours.
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answered 11 years ago
I also booked this hotel for the end of April beginning of May, for 7 days, two adults and two children. We took tickets for a transaero charter, I plan to take an individual transfer at the hotel. Savings of independent armor amounted to 18-20 thousand of the maintenance price + fuel surcharge. Who cares, but for me it's money. I don’t see any problems with traveling by self-tour, millions of people book hotels on their own and everything goes well. If there are savings on self-tour, why not take advantage of it?
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answered 11 years ago
maralva I’ll forgive you very much, upon your return, write how you were met, how you were accommodated, how much the transfer cost, the site says 170 -220 TL, is it exactly that much? And in general, how it all went... And if you don’t mind, please find out if there are strollers for rent in the mini club, in some hotels this happens, you don’t want to take your own, we are already big, but to the sea, also with towels and with all sorts of toys, it would be very convenient on the stroller. Thanks)))
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