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Does anyone know anything about club holidays, SUN CITY, another scam?
They offer to join the club, they promise a quality vacation, is it true?
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аватар Pachok
And what do they say - WHY?
Thailand is not the place where you want to go to the same club.
аватар qwertyuiop60
I meant club holidays not only Thailand, you know something about this
аватар Pachok
Ahh, like "timeshare"?
We were bred like this ten years ago. No one wants to buy these timeshares, this is an extra headache. And "savings" is only in words.
аватар Tatka59
Indeed, 7-10 years ago in Ukraine, club holidays began to gain momentum. All over the world, these are quite advantageous offers. We try to offer the cheapest hotels with the most slow-moving rooms. We met several couples in different parts of the world who took advantage of club vacation offers and as a result the trip itself cost them even a little more than without these offers, mainly due to the fact that they had to buy tickets to popular resorts on their own. If in the directions of Egypt, Turkey in agencies you can take travel on charter flights (which is cheaper), then with the club offer there is no such possibility. And the hotels where they arrived left much to be desired. It was much cheaper to take vouchers to the best hotels. And one more thing: such and similar companies offer to buy real estate or become a co-owner of a hotel room.. It would seem tempting: you pay some 50-100 dollars. (each company has its own terms of payment) and every year you can come to "your room". But first, ask yourself the question: do you want to go to the same place every year? Secondly, in addition to this board, there are so-called "pitfalls", see next. resp.
аватар Tatka59
I continue.
Associated with an additional fee for insurance, repairs, security, tracking who will use the number at a time when you do not live there. There are no guarantees that the number will be closed all year. And the additional amount sometimes pours into several hundred dollars. So think!
аватар qwertyuiop60
Thanks for the information, I've read so much about it that I don't want to rest anymore
аватар Tatka59
Do not despair! Just buy yourself tours in agencies or travel on your own.
аватар kz_astana
In short, today, 05/31/2011, we went there (Sun City S company, Kazakhstan, Astana, Nursaya-1 residential complex, near the Orda restaurant). At first, everyone was so polite, friendly. Hall, 12 couples, each couple has its own manager, glasses of water, some kind of tourist posters, banners on the walls, etc. While everyone is gathering, the manager p. the presenter (INNA) enters and begins to explain what a club, family vacation is.He starts to draw everything, cut it out (very convincingly!).Then they begin to compare in terms of money, how much it will take to travel through their system, and how much through ordinary travel agencies (on paper it turns out that in any case they are cheaper, and not that cheaper, just super cheap, almost free).. Seeing all this, they jump down and say that ONLY FOR YOU and ONLY TODAY there is a discount - 12800 EURO. You think: "Oh, fuck it!!!" Seeing all this, they throw back the loot up to 2600, and then up to 1000 EURO. You are in denial again. And in the end they say that you won the ticket and that they only pay 50% of it
аватар roza27
we bought a certificate for 47,000, came home, read everything that was posted on the net about it and was shocked, but what to do now, to go or not, you probably won’t return the money
аватар Byvalyi
People, I flew!!! And the sucker is the one who does not believe that it is really cheaper through them ..... Come on in and try to book an online hotel on Booking, or even more so a villa in Bali or Phuket, and how much will it cost you ??? And here it is!!! I bought the program for 2700 euros, we have 6 weeks + 7 gifts, a freebie ... for 4 people, a total of about 20 euros per capita .... I found the bracelets cheaper, not through them, I organized the insurance myself .. ..hey from the fact that people ask what to do with a certificate of 47,000 tenge (a week ago, an employee took such a certificate from me) how what?! of course book and fly ....
аватар Pachok
Why book on booking? Go to agoda or sawadi and you will be happy. 20 euros per person, which is about 56 dollars for a double room - the standard price of a good 4 * hotel in Phuket. At any desired time, and not just what is assigned in the timeshare.
аватар Byvalyi
http://www.agoda.ru/pages/agoda/default/DestinationSearchResult.aspx here you are, following your recommendation, an online booking site, I found a hotel where my family rested through Sun City, the hotel is called Novotel Nusa Dua .. .for 2 weeks of stay, I would give about 2600-2700 dollars through this site, and I paid 2700 euros for 6 weeks + 7 as a gift, total .... I have 4 more weeks + 1 available now .... and I'm not used to living in smelly hotels for 56 dollars in Phuket or no matter where ... by the way, I looked for such a cost in Phuket, according to your recommendation, you know what, I respect myself and my family and I don’t want us to go on vacation from the city center to the beach, or crossed roads to get there .... And! More! By the way, the prices on booking are the same....
аватар Byvalyi
Pachok, could you please specify the exact site of savadi, I can’t find it, it displays a link that the user has been deleted .... many thanks in advance
аватар Pachok
www.sawadee.com
By the way, you shouldn't call Thai 4* in Phuket smelly, your Novotel is also only 4* :)
Yes, by the way, if you (it turns out) are not 4 adults but 2 adults and two children, then the price of the room is 80 euros = 110 dollars? Look at Laguna Beach Resort 4 * in Bangtao - not very smelly for you? :)
аватар Byvalyi
by the way, Novotolej goes according to the full 5 * standard, in fact you can even check, I have already rested in Bali 4 times, I understand well the star rating of hotels and it’s not a problem to check it on the spot! Yes, here on some sites it is described as 4 *, but again on agoda (mind you, on your recommendation :-) ) it passes according to its full standard, i.e. it says 5 *, just like on the spot! Now let's take a closer look at this situation. . . I lived with children, that is, I had 2 bedrooms, where I and my wife are in one, my children are in the other, the room is now on agoda per day, this comes out to 203 dollars for 4! I have now translated my six weeks and calculated the benefits, I get such a camp per day, and after all, the children are far from small, (so not every family can be considered as with a baby), in general, $ 92 per day for the whole family. And How? And let's take with you now Spain, or Italy, a good resort. . . . And the prices in Europe are much higher than the prices in Asia. . . And about Thai 4 *. .. I already went through this when I was supposedly 4 * with my wife without children, but in fact it turned out that 3 *, so now I am vigilant in this regard. And you still haven't given me a link to Savadi's site. . . if not difficult, then please. . . thanks in advance
аватар Byvalyi
oh, I'm sorry, the link was indicated, very grateful!
аватар Pachok
@ And about Thai 4 * ... I already went through this, when with my wife and without children we slept in supposedly 4 *, but in fact it turned out that 3 *, @
So why did you go to such a hotel? Tae is full of "fours" of a very good level.
Byvalyi, Can you describe in more detail the system that you used? How much does it cost, what are the general conditions, maybe it really makes sense ..
аватар tyrik
I have been using the club vacation for 5 years already. I rested in Thailand at The village-coconatisland resort. In February, normal villas on an uninhabited island, the service is excellent. Also, through Sun City in Astana, we went to the Andel's Suits Prague hotel. An insanely beautiful city there they organized an interesting excursion for us .also service at the highest level.for the new year we are planning in the UAE.
аватар Alfini
Tyrik, Byvalyi, how does your system work? Those timeshares that were offered to us assumed payment of a decent amount at once, which made it possible for us to spend a certain number of days annually in the same hotel in the same country. They also vaguely talked about the "timeshare exchange", where, theoretically, you can exchange with those who wish to another country in a certain year. There was no question of any Novotel or sightseeing Prague.
аватар tyrik
you misunderstood everything. to travel to different countries you must first become a member of a club in one country. for example, we became owners of apartments in Spain, a club called CLUB HOLIDAY POLYNESIA. we come to our club as if we were at our dacha, we don’t pay for it, it was bought from us for unlimited use. pay for the visa. insurance and meals at the resort we are offered a choice of p / board or full board. Also, if we don't want to eat in restaurants, our apartments have a kitchen equipped with all household appliances. there is a supermarket nearby, take groceries and cook yourself if you want. further, if I'm tired of relaxing in Spain, I can exchange my resort for the same but in another country through the exchange organization RCI (www. rci. com) and www. intervalInternational. com. I am provided in 90 countries with about 4,000 resorts for free accommodation in other countries. I also pay for tickets and meals. all trips can be booked online. club members have a personalized plastic card from RCI. and a personal holiday certificate from the resort. at the presentation we bought a promotional trip program for 5 years. is a partner of these resorts. on kurota we became members of the club.
аватар Alfini
Sorry, I didn't understand anything again.
Have you bought for a certain amount (2700 euros?) 7 weeks that can be used for 5 years in different countries on different programs (resort or excursions)? Are these promotional trips?
Or you still bought a timeshare for 99 years for a more impressive amount for a certain resort in a certain country. And in this case, you can use the exchange organization. There you can choose what you want for 4000 resorts or do you need to change with someone?
I don't understand what Novotel has to do with it. I know for a fact that he doesn't sell his rooms to timeshare.
Or is it not timeshare at all?
аватар Alfini
Yes, and you have become not "apartment owners", but "one of the apartment owners", and you can come in a certain season for a certain number of days, right?
аватар Kakhi
Better not mess with Sun City timeshare. We flew to Pattaya twice and didn’t want to anymore, and in order to change the resort we were asked to pay extra. I had to sell the certificate through relatives in Moscow. We lived in Moscow for two months while we were looking for a buyer in Alpa-consalting and formalized the resale. Lost time and money. It’s better to buy a tour once and if you don’t like it, don’t dangle.
аватар Novichmok
I bought yesterday for 2400 euros (while the prepayment is 500 euros) 4 weeks for 4 years. I read ... A lot of different advice, my head is buzzing. I understand it's going to be hard to get the deposit back, right? Therefore, I doubt it, of course, but I’ll probably take a chance and pay extra. Such a question: the risk is that I can lose all the money (2400) or the difference (could be cheaper + I gave money in advance + dependence on their hotels + sufficiently early booking at 60 days, etc.)? Who has already used SunCityS or other companies, please respond. Byvalyi, tyrik
- pliiiizz
аватар Novichmok
By the way, I forgot to add, they told me this: all 4 weeks in different countries (the list is incomplete, but enough to start) and without additional payment of 183 euros for the exchange of countries. And yet, what other additional costs can there be, for example, is there an annual surcharge for insurance, repairs, cleaning, maintenance? And are there any deposits (refundable, non-refundable) in the hotels themselves?
аватар Aliya777
Good day to all! Arrived with family the other day from Hainan, rested through SunCity. There are many impressions, in principle, as well as from other resorts, but through them we were only here. They took their parents with them. I liked everything, there is something to compare with, indeed the level corresponds to their words and descriptions in the contracts. At first they doubted, they read all sorts of nonsense on the sites, but because paid a lot of money (for 4 weeks 2700 euros), decided to take a chance and, most importantly, did not regret it at all! Thank you for organizing the trip! We are planning to visit the Canary Islands in the summer of 2012, but it will be seen that the children are asking for Thailand.
аватар Aliya777
I read the posts above. Newcomer, we did not bear any additional costs, except for the fact that we paid for our meals, and as far as I know, the owners of club cards pay 183 euros. Regarding the deposit, yes, we paid 500 euros, but they were immediately returned to us before leaving, just in case (meaning if you spoil something in these very apartments) So don’t worry, I understand you, we also experienced something special after such as they write on such sites. Just pack up and fly! Have a good rest everyone!
аватар Novichmok
Thanks for the positive! I need it like air now, because. I won’t sue - nerves are more expensive, the dilemma either burns out hard-earned 500 euros or further risks more and pay extra and maybe even enjoy
аватар Novichmok
And another question: I paid the deposit with a credit card, there is a chance to return it if I declare to the bank that the transaction was wrong. Mmm, but I signed the documents that it was an advance payment and that there will be an additional payment, etc.
аватар Makaguk
We have been resting according to the club system for nine years. We own a club card Multiclub (England). During this time we visited five excellent hotels in Europe (Spain, France, Portugal, Czech Republic, Greece). In our opinion, the club vacation is superior in all respects to all other offers. And those who translate meaning into counting money are wasting time, everything has long been counted more than once. While you are counting the benefits, you are losing your buzz, remaining on your own, and as a result, making a choice in favor of consumer goods.
Since you are interested in a club vacation, try the "fresh air", and leave the opportunity to use well-worn tours to beginners.
Please note that well-worn tours do not become cheaper, they become more expensive, although they have already been completed by millions of tourists.
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