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Did the flood affect Pattaya?
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Of course, I am not a journalist and write only what I see.
Just got back from Laos. On the way to Laos, we passed all the "flooded" areas. Water was not seen anywhere. More precisely, it is, but it is normal for these areas. It's always like that there. These are provinces that have specially built on the water to engage in fishing, etc. Houses were also built in the water, they travel all their lives in boats. What's so strange and scary about that? They themselves want it. And there is no water anywhere on the roads. Closer to Laos it is generally dry, or rather drought. People dig special pits to somehow collect water and keep it in the fields. Rice doesn't grow without water. And the stupid media people think they're drowning. Or just make a sensation out of it. You won't even find a puddle in Bangkok. I'll try to post pictures today.
Just got back from Laos. On the way to Laos, we passed all the "flooded" areas. Water was not seen anywhere. More precisely, it is, but it is normal for these areas. It's always like that there. These are provinces that have specially built on the water to engage in fishing, etc. Houses were also built in the water, they travel all their lives in boats. What's so strange and scary about that? They themselves want it. And there is no water anywhere on the roads. Closer to Laos it is generally dry, or rather drought. People dig special pits to somehow collect water and keep it in the fields. Rice doesn't grow without water. And the stupid media people think they're drowning. Or just make a sensation out of it. You won't even find a puddle in Bangkok. I'll try to post pictures today.
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answered 13 years ago
The Thai government declared a state of emergency, apparently, they did not read Amir. :)
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answered 13 years ago
Quote: "These are the provinces that were specially built on the water"
But what about the fact that very large enterprises suffered from floods, many large enterprises that build their factories for decades and certainly not in water?
Amir1, almost all the power of Nikon 70-90% of all cameras in Tae. Their factories are now at the epicenter of the flood (which, as you say, is not). Sony also has a very large plant there. Winchesters have already risen in price by 2-3 times and will rise in price again. And there will not be enough for all the screws ;-) Because traditionally Thai factories account for up to 50% of the entire market. WesternDigitals, Seagates are also made there and the factories are also flooded. They work, but production volumes have fallen sharply.
Nidec also flooded, and without their participation, almost no other propeller could be made. So even those whose factories are not in Tae did not receive Nidec engines ;-(
The rest has already been sold, now chaos will begin in the IT market.
Given that half of this industry was hurt by the spring Japanese incidents, the other half in Tae stupidly brings the industry to its knees.
Why am I? To the fact that, probably, we all dreamed about it, because Amir1 drove along the road and did not see anything. Where are we now ;-)
Far from tourism, but very revealing.
But what about the fact that very large enterprises suffered from floods, many large enterprises that build their factories for decades and certainly not in water?
Amir1, almost all the power of Nikon 70-90% of all cameras in Tae. Their factories are now at the epicenter of the flood (which, as you say, is not). Sony also has a very large plant there. Winchesters have already risen in price by 2-3 times and will rise in price again. And there will not be enough for all the screws ;-) Because traditionally Thai factories account for up to 50% of the entire market. WesternDigitals, Seagates are also made there and the factories are also flooded. They work, but production volumes have fallen sharply.
Nidec also flooded, and without their participation, almost no other propeller could be made. So even those whose factories are not in Tae did not receive Nidec engines ;-(
The rest has already been sold, now chaos will begin in the IT market.
Given that half of this industry was hurt by the spring Japanese incidents, the other half in Tae stupidly brings the industry to its knees.
Why am I? To the fact that, probably, we all dreamed about it, because Amir1 drove along the road and did not see anything. Where are we now ;-)
Far from tourism, but very revealing.
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answered 13 years ago
Girls! I said above that I am not a journalist, not an economist for Thai internal affairs, and not another specialist. I write what I see. I argue from the point of view of danger and comfort for the tourist. Well, why does a tourist need to know what happens to the cameras when he goes to a crocodile farm or lies on the beach of Koh Chang? This is another topic. Here is the travel forum. All tour operators have already expressed their opinion on this matter and it does not differ from mine. Read on i-net. You know how to search. Why look only for the negative? Maybe somewhere there is something. And most likely there is. But this does not concern me, like all tourists who come here, and does not affect the quality of the rest. That's what you're talking about. And the topics that you touch on here are discussed in other forums. And if we talk about economic topics, then I'm more concerned about the fact that Ukrainians could not sell potatoes at a normal price. And this will affect tourism in Thailand much more than the shutdown of 5 out of 2,000 enterprises in Thailand, and then for some short time. Believe that Thailand is a very large country with a very well developed economy. And even a complete shutdown of several enterprises for a couple of days is unlikely to affect it.
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and billions of unearned money by Ukrainians who will not invest this money in tourism throughout the whole YEAR. This will cause a lot more damage to Thailand than some enterprise in a COUPLE OF DAYS. Although I repeat once again: I am not an economist and I am not going to judge this. There is only one conclusion: this DOES NOT AFFECT tourists in any way !!!! So welcome to Thailand. And there is nothing to scare tourists with the closure of factories in Thailand. They don't need it. They need a beach and excursions. And this hasn't changed and won't change.
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and finally call the thousands of tourists who have returned home from Thailand over the past week. Ask them if some kind of flood prevented them (if it exists somewhere, it is not clear where, even if I, having traveled so much country, did not notice it) to have a normal rest? The answer will be unequivocal: NO. Then why all this talk about politics and economics at a tourism forum? Answer specifically to the question asked. What do they get from Bangkok? Answer: as usual by buses, taxis, trains, nothing has changed. Is there a threat to cancel the tour? Answer: no. Did the flood affect Pattaya? Answer: NO!!!!!! I would add one more question here: will I see something similar to a flood while on vacation in Pattaya. And the answer is again: NO!!! That's what's important.
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answered 13 years ago
Do not be nervous and do not shout ;-)
The closure of factories is mentioned absolutely not for any intimidation - this is an argument against yours "we have not seen water, no one is drowning, there are no floods"
The point in my post is that there is a flood and it is serious, but the fact that it did not affect Pattaya or Bangkok is good.
But how can you believe (?), if you generalize and write that there are no floods at all, and all the water leaves immediately and nothing is flooded anywhere. You wrote many times on the forum that everything and everywhere is excellent, because you have not seen the water. I can’t verify this personally, but I also can’t trust someone who writes that there are no floods at all ;-)
Your last post (if without emotion) is perfect ;-)
And I can’t sleep because of the prices of the screws)))
The closure of factories is mentioned absolutely not for any intimidation - this is an argument against yours "we have not seen water, no one is drowning, there are no floods"
The point in my post is that there is a flood and it is serious, but the fact that it did not affect Pattaya or Bangkok is good.
But how can you believe (?), if you generalize and write that there are no floods at all, and all the water leaves immediately and nothing is flooded anywhere. You wrote many times on the forum that everything and everywhere is excellent, because you have not seen the water. I can’t verify this personally, but I also can’t trust someone who writes that there are no floods at all ;-)
Your last post (if without emotion) is perfect ;-)
And I can’t sleep because of the prices of the screws)))
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answered 13 years ago
hatinka, here I am - an ordinary tourist, who is primarily concerned about the safety of the rest (in this situation). It so happened that when I'm going to Tai, there are some natural disasters and naturally, I have a lot of questions that I ask on the forum. But in the end, I call friends and acquaintances who have just arrived from Tai, because the opinion of people who have just arrived, who have seen everything with their own eyes, is much more important to me than the opinion of the media or talking about the closure of any enterprises. I don’t argue that it really drowns in some provinces, but I’m not going there at all and I’m worried about rest, for example, in PTT, on Chang, for example. By the way, this opinion always coincides with the opinion of Amir. Similarly, one can say about Russia, we also have something going on somewhere, but this does not mean at all that a tornado has passed all over Russia! Actually, it would not hurt to look at a geographical map for those who are going to Tai! the country is also not small and the geographical location of the resorts is different.
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And if we talk about: "Don't be nervous and don't shout ;-)" - for example, I have NEVER read Amir's reviews, where he would be nervous or even more screaming! More correct, efficient and interesting expert, on this forum still look! So no need to overdo it!
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To be honest, there are a few nerves. Sorry. I’m just tired of answering the same question 70-80 times a day and hearing in response: “What are you talking about? Do you watch TV? (I, sitting in Thailand, for some reason have to watch TV, and not through the window to find out about the weather). I won't answer about the weather at all. I am not a weatherman. Don't believe me - watch TV. My opinion is interesting, on my site there is a button "Weather today" in the Information. My opinion is there. To believe him or not is up to each individual. I'm not going to prove anything. Tired. I only answer questions about tourism.
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answered 13 years ago
That's right, Amir! otherwise they leave the topic ... they confuse people, and here we read the memoirs of all the "thinkers" on various topics, and not answers to questions.
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answered 13 years ago
And I tend to believe it is the Prime Minister of Thailand. Moreover, I saw the consequences of the spring "not floods" of this year with my own eyes literally three weeks after the disaster.
Another question is whether to go to Pattaya. To go! :) This is such an interesting place where there is practically no off-season and cataclysms. Even the tragic tsunami of 2004 bypassed her. The element of risk is Bangkok and its airport.
Another question is whether to go to Pattaya. To go! :) This is such an interesting place where there is practically no off-season and cataclysms. Even the tragic tsunami of 2004 bypassed her. The element of risk is Bangkok and its airport.
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answered 13 years ago
Angelika55, it so happened on the Internet that THIS FONT is called "cry" and a lot !!!
This is for your information, for the future ;-)
This is for your information, for the future ;-)
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answered 13 years ago
We are leaving on November 2nd. For me, the main thing is that the Bangkok airport accepts. And since we will be in Pattaya for the first time, we would like to go on excursions: both to Bangkong and to the Kwai River. And whatever you say, even the Royal Palace drowns the historical center. And just sitting in Pattaya is not very desirable. Therefore, we are worried.
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answered 13 years ago
Hello! Arrived in BKK yesterday. When we were descending on the plane, the entire cabin was staring out the windows. Indeed, since we are flying conditionally, of course, from the north, vast areas flooded with water, roads, etc. are visible. But I am not an expert! Maybe there are rice fields? The canals are filled with water, yes, it is! Closer to the airport everything is already dry. +33 and jarra! Transfer to Ptt no problem. No traffic jams. At home from the travel agency there was some hype about Thais in hotels, just in our hotel. Because we arrived on Mon. especially in our hotel (Pullman) there are no crowds. Now I'm sitting at the hotel beach. In the pool for 10 Russians - 2 Thais. Here! All come here!!!
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Yes, and one more thing, now I understand why at home, scouring and asking questions to the Russians in PTT, how are things, the situation, I didn’t get much answers. THEY ARE JUST SHUTTING HERE AND HAPPYING HERE to write some explanations here!!! Really, fly and relax, you won't regret it! PC: I'm just a teapot tourist, not a Thai bribed agent (hee hee)
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answered 13 years ago
BANGKOK, November 1st. /Corr. ITAR-TASS Andrey Shirokov/. Bangkok will be completely flooded if the demonstrators open the floodgates near the Klong Sam-Wa canal.
This statement was made today by the deputy head of the administration of Bangkok Tirakhon Manopaibul. He emphasized that further opening of the locks in the northeast would cause the water to bypass the main dams and flood the city center, overflowing the Syensaib canal.
“If the government fails to reassure the demonstrators, claims that the 20 central districts of Bangkok are safe need to be reconsidered,” Manopaibul said. “The situation will worsen dramatically if control is lost, and the whole of Bangkok will be flooded,” he stressed.
Tonight, in the area of the locks on the Klong Sam-Wa canal, angry residents of the flooded eastern districts of Bangkok tried to dismantle the dam themselves. After negotiations with them, the government opened the sluice doors by 80 cm, although the demonstrators demanded that they be opened at least one and a half meters in order for the water to leave their area. The head of the administration of Bangkok, Suhumbhand Paribat, demanded from the Prime Minister of the country Yingluck Shinawatra a written order to open the floodgates ajar, and only after receiving it gave the order
This statement was made today by the deputy head of the administration of Bangkok Tirakhon Manopaibul. He emphasized that further opening of the locks in the northeast would cause the water to bypass the main dams and flood the city center, overflowing the Syensaib canal.
“If the government fails to reassure the demonstrators, claims that the 20 central districts of Bangkok are safe need to be reconsidered,” Manopaibul said. “The situation will worsen dramatically if control is lost, and the whole of Bangkok will be flooded,” he stressed.
Tonight, in the area of the locks on the Klong Sam-Wa canal, angry residents of the flooded eastern districts of Bangkok tried to dismantle the dam themselves. After negotiations with them, the government opened the sluice doors by 80 cm, although the demonstrators demanded that they be opened at least one and a half meters in order for the water to leave their area. The head of the administration of Bangkok, Suhumbhand Paribat, demanded from the Prime Minister of the country Yingluck Shinawatra a written order to open the floodgates ajar, and only after receiving it gave the order
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answered 13 years ago
an order to open the lock doors. However, the demonstrators are demanding even more opening of the floodgates so that the water leaves their areas faster. Some streets there have been flooded for a month and a half or more.
At the moment, the locks are guarded by the military and the police.
Before the next high tide in the Gulf of Thailand on November 10, Bangkok municipal services need to have time to pump out 5.5 billion cubic meters of water from the flooded areas of the city. This was announced today by the Flood Control Operations Center of Thailand. The center will present today for the approval of the government the plan of drainage works calculated for these 10 days. At the moment, the tide in the Gulf of Thailand is subsiding and will reach a minimum on November 6th. On November 10, the next high tide will begin, which will peak on November 13.
The death toll from the catastrophic flooding in Thailand has already reached 384, according to the Kingdom's Disaster Prevention Authority. Flooding continues in 147 districts in 26 of Thailand's 76 provinces. More than 2.11 million people were affected by the storm.
In total, since the end of July, when the floods began in the north and in the central part of the country, more than 3 million people have been affected by the disaster.
At the moment, the locks are guarded by the military and the police.
Before the next high tide in the Gulf of Thailand on November 10, Bangkok municipal services need to have time to pump out 5.5 billion cubic meters of water from the flooded areas of the city. This was announced today by the Flood Control Operations Center of Thailand. The center will present today for the approval of the government the plan of drainage works calculated for these 10 days. At the moment, the tide in the Gulf of Thailand is subsiding and will reach a minimum on November 6th. On November 10, the next high tide will begin, which will peak on November 13.
The death toll from the catastrophic flooding in Thailand has already reached 384, according to the Kingdom's Disaster Prevention Authority. Flooding continues in 147 districts in 26 of Thailand's 76 provinces. More than 2.11 million people were affected by the storm.
In total, since the end of July, when the floods began in the north and in the central part of the country, more than 3 million people have been affected by the disaster.
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Who can answer: is it worth it to relax with a child of 2.5 years? They say that due to the flood there is a risk of an increase in diseases. I am considering the Centara Grand Mirage hotel. In one review I read that children vomit. Very alarming. Thank you in advance for the answer without unnecessary emotions, based on personal experience. And is it really better to relax on the islands with children?
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answered 13 years ago
Advise: or wait for the season and it is better to fly to the UAE? I have never been anywhere except in Turkey.
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answered 13 years ago
The growth of diseases may be in those areas where there really was a flood. In Pattaya, where this hotel is located, it was not. In this hotel, children can vomit for the same reasons as in any resort hotel in any country where there are children - one came, brought rotavirus, swam in the pool - the whole hotel vomits :( Well, or the specifics of Thailand itself - the parents stuffed a child with unfamiliar or poorly washed fruits.
And so, yes, indeed, with children it is better to relax on the islands. It's cleaner, calmer and a good sea right next to the hotel, and not a 40-minute boat ride.
I also want to note that such hotels as in Turkey, Greece, Egypt, Tunisia, i.е. Roughly speaking, a tourist reservation is a rarity in Thailand, if you need just such a stand-alone hotel on the islands, pay attention to Le Meridien in Phuket.
And so, yes, indeed, with children it is better to relax on the islands. It's cleaner, calmer and a good sea right next to the hotel, and not a 40-minute boat ride.
I also want to note that such hotels as in Turkey, Greece, Egypt, Tunisia, i.е. Roughly speaking, a tourist reservation is a rarity in Thailand, if you need just such a stand-alone hotel on the islands, pay attention to Le Meridien in Phuket.
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answered 13 years ago
UAE?
It seems to me that you do not quite imagine a holiday in Thailand:) sorry. Thailand is not a hotel and a beach and a service. Here you need to travel a lot, there is something to see, the hotels are good, but there is absolutely no entertainment and usually only with breakfast.
If you need a beach holiday with a child, then take the UAE - this is a good choice. By the way, the season is still normal there.
It seems to me that you do not quite imagine a holiday in Thailand:) sorry. Thailand is not a hotel and a beach and a service. Here you need to travel a lot, there is something to see, the hotels are good, but there is absolutely no entertainment and usually only with breakfast.
If you need a beach holiday with a child, then take the UAE - this is a good choice. By the way, the season is still normal there.
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answered 13 years ago
Thanks for the answer. Now I can’t fly to the UAE, because. senior to go to school, only a quarter started. Yes, and in travel agencies they say that December - all hotels are on the foot. We live in Astana (Kazakhstan). In January they say that it's not the season for swimming - it's cold. Today, one travel agency suggested Thailand. Although the last thing I wanted to do was go there with a little one. But I was assured that it was good with children there. Direct flight to Utopao (as it seems to be called), 6 hours 40 minutes flight, then 30 minutes to the place. If to Koh Chang islands (if wrong, sorry) then 2 hours by ferry. With a child, it's hard labor. For some reason they didn’t offer me to Phuket, strange. I am somewhat wary of Asian countries, with some prejudice. Although it would seem that I myself live in Central Asia. They also offer Hainan Island, but it will also be far away. And when, in your opinion, is it better to visit the UAE, in March? And which hotels?
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answered 13 years ago
The one who was very nervous about the flood answers. On November 7, we flew to Bangkok, from there we didn’t see anything on the way to Pattaya. Ten days in Pattaya, not a single rain. Apart from the flood of the Russians, nothing extraordinary. Thais are all working. Two days 17-19 in Bangkok, it’s quiet, calm, you didn’t even see puddles. There’s everything in bulk in stores. Panic is only on our TVs. People don’t deprive yourself of pleasure, go without hesitation. I lost a lot of nerves, a month on forums and news. and as a result, a lot of impressions and positive. And about children - foreigners with strollers get off the plane - and there is no baby and no year. Yes, and our kids also go on excursions.
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answered 13 years ago
madina72, they didn’t offer you a Phuket from Astana, most likely because they knew that you had children, but there was no flight there, all the routes of regular flights lead to different paths (direct or through Abu Dhabi, Ashgabat, Tashkent, etc.) to BKK, and from there transfer to a domestic flight to Phuket, and all charters fly from KZ in winter with tourists for Pattaya.
In the Emirates - it’s not hot there in January either.
And in Phuket - just right, the high season.
In the Emirates - it’s not hot there in January either.
And in Phuket - just right, the high season.
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answered 13 years ago