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An unpleasant situation happened to me in the marketing company Avangard LLC, located on 54 Epifanskaya Street, as a result of visiting which I lost a large amount of money. Large because I live alone with two children.
2 days ago I bought food in Shchekino, in the Spar store, they gave me a card where a valuable prize was drawn. A few days later they called to claim the prize, the operator insistently asked me to come to their presentation, my husband refused to go there until the last, but then we still decided. Having arrived there, they treated us to tea and showed videos. Then, when they began to offer us vouchers to different countries for two for 147,000, we refused. Then they began to put pressure on us and persistently offer this voucher. We were not allowed to consult with each other and go out anywhere, they said unpleasant things.
2 days ago I bought food in Shchekino, in the Spar store, they gave me a card where a valuable prize was drawn. A few days later they called to claim the prize, the operator insistently asked me to come to their presentation, my husband refused to go there until the last, but then we still decided. Having arrived there, they treated us to tea and showed videos. Then, when they began to offer us vouchers to different countries for two for 147,000, we refused. Then they began to put pressure on us and persistently offer this voucher. We were not allowed to consult with each other and go out anywhere, they said unpleasant things.
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It happens. You just have to give up and leave. After all, you were not tied to a chair or tortured. If you say that you have no money, then they will fall behind, you will not be interesting for them.
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answered 11 years ago
Unclear. She lives alone with two children, then her husband came from somewhere. Then they offered to buy tickets. Were they forced to buy under torture? And where did you have to go for such money? And what is the prize? Please describe the situation in more detail. Perhaps then it will be possible to advise something.
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answered 11 years ago
And why did you need to follow their conversations. They would get up and leave if communication is unpleasant for you and what they offered is not necessary. I hope no one held you at gunpoint. There are many scammers of this kind, but you need to be even tougher with them than they are with you.
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answered 11 years ago
Hello, an unpleasant situation happened to me in the marketing company Avangard LLC, located in the city of Tula on 54 Epifanskaya St., as a result of visiting which I lost a large amount of money. Large because I live alone with two children.
2 days ago I bought groceries in the city of Shchekino, in the "Spar" store, they gave me a card where a valuable prize was drawn. A few days later they called allegedly to pick up the prize, the operator insistently asked me to come to their presentation, my husband refused to go there until the last , but then we still decided. Having arrived there, they treated us to tea and showed videos. Then, when they began to offer us trips to different countries for two for 147,000 rubles, we refused. Then they began to put pressure on us and persistently offer this ticket. We were not allowed to consult with each other and go out anywhere, they said unpleasant things. We sat there for 4 hours, then they brought us catalogs with gifts, and on the last page we saw our card number, which says that we won a trip to Tenerife. The consultant Artem turned white, allegedly not expecting that we should win something. As a result, we were sent home by car for money. At first we were glad of this voucher, then we only realized that we just gave money to scammers. Now we can't get our money back. We want to terminate this agreement. But the company said that they would keep 60% for themselves. For this money that they lure from people, under the influence of mental influence, they can go on vacation with the whole company. It can't go on like this! Thousands of deceived people.
2 days ago I bought groceries in the city of Shchekino, in the "Spar" store, they gave me a card where a valuable prize was drawn. A few days later they called allegedly to pick up the prize, the operator insistently asked me to come to their presentation, my husband refused to go there until the last , but then we still decided. Having arrived there, they treated us to tea and showed videos. Then, when they began to offer us trips to different countries for two for 147,000 rubles, we refused. Then they began to put pressure on us and persistently offer this ticket. We were not allowed to consult with each other and go out anywhere, they said unpleasant things. We sat there for 4 hours, then they brought us catalogs with gifts, and on the last page we saw our card number, which says that we won a trip to Tenerife. The consultant Artem turned white, allegedly not expecting that we should win something. As a result, we were sent home by car for money. At first we were glad of this voucher, then we only realized that we just gave money to scammers. Now we can't get our money back. We want to terminate this agreement. But the company said that they would keep 60% for themselves. For this money that they lure from people, under the influence of mental influence, they can go on vacation with the whole company. It can't go on like this! Thousands of deceived people.
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answered 11 years ago
Boba45 immediately split everyone. About my husband and children.
Basically, you are a liar. What does it mean - they did not give advice? 4 hours to sit indoors and as a result give money... I don't understand something...
If you gave that kind of money, it means that you don’t really need it, then everything is right.
Basically, you are a liar. What does it mean - they did not give advice? 4 hours to sit indoors and as a result give money... I don't understand something...
If you gave that kind of money, it means that you don’t really need it, then everything is right.
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answered 11 years ago
If you have a contract in your hands, read it carefully. If you think that you are right, and the opposite side violates your rights, contact the prosecutor's office, Rospotrebnadzor.
“We sat there for 4 hours”, “We were sent home by car for money”, but couldn’t just get up and leave? You yourself fell for the situation, forgetting about free cheese and a mousetrap. If, indeed, there are thousands of deceived people, unite, write a collective statement, where I indicated above to write.
“We sat there for 4 hours”, “We were sent home by car for money”, but couldn’t just get up and leave? You yourself fell for the situation, forgetting about free cheese and a mousetrap. If, indeed, there are thousands of deceived people, unite, write a collective statement, where I indicated above to write.
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answered 11 years ago
well, not a husband, but a cohabitant. Either we live, or we don’t live
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answered 11 years ago
Well, check to see if this dude is in cahoots with LLC"Vanguard ".
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answered 11 years ago
I can’t believe something. A woman brings up children alone, almost 150 pieces are at home in a box (and not in a bank at interest). So, we went by car, took out the box, gave it away, and then woke up and found a travel forum .... If in your mind, you still need to not go to the forum, but write a statement to the police.
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I can’t believe something. A woman brings up children alone, almost 150 pieces are at home in a box (and not in a bank at interest). So, we went by car, took out the box, gave it away, and then woke up and found a travel forum .... If in your mind, you still need to not go to the forum, but write a statement to the police.
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answered 11 years ago
The scammers knew that you had money, otherwise they would not have stuck like that. Think about who could know about your money? Listen for the sigur62 version.
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answered 11 years ago
I haven’t visited the site for a long time, but here it turns out to be so interesting, fairy tales are told ...
And what does the TS want from the forum?
And what does the TS want from the forum?
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answered 11 years ago
Listen, people, why did they attack a woman? :) What's the difference where the money comes from and with whom she lives? As if none of us had heard of such divorces in the nineties! Apparently, the sellers of"club rest " and timeshare got out again. I, too, once in 1997 sat at such a presentation for several hours and "won" two weeks in Tenerife. The manager almost sobbed that he had spent a bottle of soda on me, and I don’t want to buy just a flight for my winnings, and at the same time 30 years of timeshare rent :) a letter and went home for the money"right now, otherwise tomorrow the offer will not work ".
dashulyazadeeva, read the contract carefully - what is written in the termination part. In addition, read the Russian Law on Tourism and the Law on Consumer Rights Protection in case they entered in the contract not tourist services, but the sale of real estate on shared terms. In general, demand money back, and if they refuse, take them to court.
But, by the way, there is nothing illegal in such a sales scheme.
dashulyazadeeva, read the contract carefully - what is written in the termination part. In addition, read the Russian Law on Tourism and the Law on Consumer Rights Protection in case they entered in the contract not tourist services, but the sale of real estate on shared terms. In general, demand money back, and if they refuse, take them to court.
But, by the way, there is nothing illegal in such a sales scheme.
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answered 11 years ago
And now I call them to the company, I say that I gave the last money to you, I have nothing to live on, my salary is 5 thousand rubles. And they tell me: "maybe you get a second job," and our company products will provide for you.
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answered 11 years ago
Such a divorce has been operating for a long time, and unfortunately it is practically impossible to prove it. When filling out the questionnaire for the supposedly drawing of a prize, there were definitely leading questions about your well-being and apparently you made a mistake somewhere indicating that you have savings (it’s also elementary to calculate whether you have money - at your place of work, brand of car, etc.). This divorce is as old as the world .... and our people are bought into it because of the love of a freebie (hooray, we won something !!!)
1) you signed the contract voluntarily (100% sure that you did not read it carefully, if you read it at all)
2) money was also given voluntarily
3) and excuse me, but you should have thought about children before giving the last for a ticket to Tenerife.
P.s sorry for my french.....no sucker and life is bad.....
1) you signed the contract voluntarily (100% sure that you did not read it carefully, if you read it at all)
2) money was also given voluntarily
3) and excuse me, but you should have thought about children before giving the last for a ticket to Tenerife.
P.s sorry for my french.....no sucker and life is bad.....
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answered 11 years ago
"the money they do not want to return"
Of course they don't! Read the contract, involve lawyers, in pity and conscience you will not break through them.
Even a voluntarily signed contract can be terminated.
Of course they don't! Read the contract, involve lawyers, in pity and conscience you will not break through them.
Even a voluntarily signed contract can be terminated.
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answered 11 years ago
"I have a salary of 5 thousand rubles"
????? Some kind of nonsense ... There are no such salaries.
????? Some kind of nonsense ... There are no such salaries.
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answered 11 years ago
Maybe some kind of hypnosis? This also happens. Report to the police. Well, how can a person in their right mind, with a salary of 5 thousand rubles, give the last money for vacation? What does *husband* say? How did he let it?
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answered 11 years ago
Tell me please dashulyazadeeva, let’s say your salary is 5 thousand rubles and you were so easily able to give it away for vouchers. You have been collecting this money for more than one year, but this tour for two, but what about children? Or did you, as a mother, want to leave them hungry that I am here for you I don't understand.
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answered 11 years ago
well, the ticket, as they said, costs 147,000, but since I would have won this ticket, they issued it to me for 70,000. We just didn’t think that it was without a flight, food, insurance, visa, passport. company. The tour company is twice cheaper. We just didn’t know how much this ticket actually costs.
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answered 11 years ago
So even 70,000, with such an income, is a lot of money, even with food and flights, and with passports. What is Tenerife? to the police, maybe you can prove something.
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answered 11 years ago
Yeah .... hypnosis .... so they forgot about the children and the fact that there are no passports and that then there will be nothing to eat ....
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let’s say they didn’t think that it was without a flight, food, insurance, visas, a passport needs to be done. But who forced you to pay money. You just when you were brought home for money could see a tour from a love operator.
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answered 11 years ago
We also have all sorts of scammers in Germany. Recently I received an email saying that I have to pay some subscription fee, I don’t know why ... I know for sure that I didn’t order anything anywhere. I copy the name of the organization and in google. And there, there are dozens of people like me ... and everyone with questions, even copied their letters ... scammers send out to everyone. In this case, you just need to delete similar letters and that's it. And so she did. The answer is silence.
I entered the written address of the vehicle into a search engine, this is what people write:
http://4geo.ru/tula/avangardmarketingovaya-kompaniya/
Looks like TC posted there too.
And here already wrote about it:
http://www.turpravda.com/%D0%A2%D1%83%D1%80%D1%84%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BC%D1%8B/%D0%90%D0% 92%D0%90%D0%9D%D0%93%D0%90%D0%A0%D0%94-14895/
There is a lot of information on the Internet:
http://myslo.ru/club/blog/narodniy-zhurnalist/kuAy0Na0WEy-pAWKJYCUBw
I entered the written address of the vehicle into a search engine, this is what people write:
http://4geo.ru/tula/avangardmarketingovaya-kompaniya/
Looks like TC posted there too.
And here already wrote about it:
http://www.turpravda.com/%D0%A2%D1%83%D1%80%D1%84%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BC%D1%8B/%D0%90%D0% 92%D0%90%D0%9D%D0%93%D0%90%D0%A0%D0%94-14895/
There is a lot of information on the Internet:
http://myslo.ru/club/blog/narodniy-zhurnalist/kuAy0Na0WEy-pAWKJYCUBw
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answered 11 years ago
And the author, for an hour, is not a troll? When buying a ticket, even if not the entire package in total, but only hotel accommodation, you need passport data. Moreover, more and more details are revealed in the course of our communication here. Everything is somehow cloudy with the author .....
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answered 11 years ago
100% muddy. I wonder if the author will unsubscribe yet ... Indeed, there is no foreign passport, how did they get a ticket?
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100% muddy. I wonder if the author will unsubscribe yet ... Indeed, there is no foreign passport, how did they get a ticket?
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answered 11 years ago
Yes, no one issued vouchers for them .... The scheme is simple
1) at any point of sale, they give out a questionnaire for the drawing of a prize, which the potential victim fills out ... (very often, according to such questionnaires, you can understand whether there is money or not)
2) after a couple of days they call and say: Congratulations, you are almost the only lucky one who won the super-duper-Mega prize, which we will present to you in a solemn ceremony .....
3) the client arrives and here all the fun begins ..... the so-called psychological attack, I will not describe the methods, there are quite a lot of them, but !! there is no hypnosis and coercion ...... they give an agreement where everything is clearly spelled out, even a refusal after signing and transferring money, of course, it’s not the client who wins anyway ..... and to challenge this agreement is still that hemorrhoids and money it won't take much either.
Prizes are awarded in different ways ..... prizes are free, but there are bad ones, and there are good ones, so what would you get good, you need to buy this right))), there is another option when an auction is held between customers ... )))), whoever gives more, that and slippers ....)))) it all comes down to human traits ..... greed, excitement and a freebie ..... no Hypnosis !!!!!!!
1) at any point of sale, they give out a questionnaire for the drawing of a prize, which the potential victim fills out ... (very often, according to such questionnaires, you can understand whether there is money or not)
2) after a couple of days they call and say: Congratulations, you are almost the only lucky one who won the super-duper-Mega prize, which we will present to you in a solemn ceremony .....
3) the client arrives and here all the fun begins ..... the so-called psychological attack, I will not describe the methods, there are quite a lot of them, but !! there is no hypnosis and coercion ...... they give an agreement where everything is clearly spelled out, even a refusal after signing and transferring money, of course, it’s not the client who wins anyway ..... and to challenge this agreement is still that hemorrhoids and money it won't take much either.
Prizes are awarded in different ways ..... prizes are free, but there are bad ones, and there are good ones, so what would you get good, you need to buy this right))), there is another option when an auction is held between customers ... )))), whoever gives more, that and slippers ....)))) it all comes down to human traits ..... greed, excitement and a freebie ..... no Hypnosis !!!!!!!
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