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The site administration insists on deleting the rara74 account.
No reason given for deletion.
Arguing by voting "FOR" the removal by the TWENTY MOST rated experts of the site.
Who participated in the ranking? The information is hidden.
Please openly express your opinion (only tourists).
Travel agents, sellers of excursions and other financially interested persons, please do not disturb.
Do I need rara74 on the site?
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аватар werty
Needed, for sure.
But in the same format - with interesting photos, stories, videos.
Without excessive politics, a tolerant rara74 is simply irreplaceable. Everything is good in moderation.
аватар hatinka
Yes. Very beautiful photos, very much! And although I am not a fan of Egypt, I think that papa74 with his reports, photos and advice is needed. First of all, those who are interested in Egypt!
аватар Katyyy
I fully support the thought of werty, I will subscribe to every word.
аватар lu_ko_57
I really need dad74, because of his stories I fell in love with Egypt
never wrote, for the first time, without dad it will not be interesting here
аватар vda75
I think that the presence of rara74 is necessary for the site.
You don’t need to delete anything (first, accumulate so much information, photos and videos about Egypt and not only yourself! And then delete it! Wouldn’t it be a pity for your work?)

On the issue of tolerance for rar74 itself, I support werty.
So I urge to resolve the situation amicably (without waving checkers and other piercing and cutting objects).
аватар Lenna50
For me, as for a simple tourist, and not an employee of TA, rara74 is definitely needed!!! No need to ban him. His photos, videos, reviews are very beautiful, informative and interesting.
аватар Lu-la-la
I am "for" dad74 of the rebellious period - in past years, a person gave really useful information, I generally keep quiet about the pictures.
And in recent months there have been some destructive posts, unrestrained remarks (I agree that sometimes as a response to the same posts addressed to me, but a man should not stoop to the level of a boor), and so on. - here is my "against".
аватар 23122005
I am for objective and interesting information from him.
аватар tana691
Papa74, you really have been escalating the situation lately, and with absolutely incompetent statements about Tunisia, Egypt. Yesterday I returned from Tunisia and fell in love with this country. Almost every week someone from my acquaintances travels to Egypt and everyone returns safely. In Russia, there are always terrorist attacks, murders and no one is afraid to go there. And Egypt, Tunisia are much safer, and people at least in hotels are friendlier and more cultured than rude people in the Crimea and Sochi.
аватар Allsharm.com
''Travel agents, sellers of excursions and other financially interested persons, please do not disturb.''
Already papa74, but this site is for everyone, and everyone has the right to speak out, including sellers of excursions :)
1) I know you from another friendly forum and I know you as an adequate person who always provides interesting photos and information about the hotels you have been to. And I was surprised reading your posts over the past 2 months, where links and only links to horror stories. Yes, the situation in Egypt is not stable, and only God knows when it will stabilize. Yes, there are many lovers of the Red Sea, including you, and none of us wants this Red Sea to become inaccessible to tourists and you do not need any excursions and they come here just like you exclusively for the beauty of the underwater world !!!
+ tourists themselves, on their own, and without the help of excursion sellers can visit many interesting places, there would be a desire)
аватар Allsharm.com
2) The fact that you have sunk to the level of a boor is a fact, no matter how much you like to read it. Mats, insults addressed to me, and to other members of the forum recently from you often. And megalomania just haunts you, because you think that only your opinion and your answers are worthy of praise, but besides you there are many members of the forum who are experts no worse than you and their advice and answers are valuable too.
Don't you think that there are a lot of smart people who know all the vocabulary of obscenities like you? But to descend to the level when simple words have been exhausted and only drooling with obscenities are left is not comophilious, and does not honor anyone.
аватар Allsharm.com
3) You often write, ''that's who the admin chose'', etc., sorry, but we are the same as you, and we do not have any special privileges, everyone is equal here, and everyone is given the right to vote and opinion, even if someone does not like our opinion, but no one closes their mouth to anyone here.
аватар Allsharm.com
4) And so as not to much lab-lab-lab, I will write to you that you are not my enemy personally, you may not believe it, but this is a fact. And I'm not against you, but I'm against papa74 in whose image you are currently, I'm for the former papa74, adequate and giving tourists useful information. I don’t know you personally, but I’m sure that in the real world you are a kind, sociable, and humorous man, and not an aggressive “like a bull” :) I hope that swearing and not a healthy environment will go away and will return to us the former papa74, which, as you understand from the posts above, many are happy here !!!
аватар tory73
papa74, I, of course, for you!!! And, unlike many, I am FOR you with ANY INFORMATION! As they say, "the world without embellishment" ...
аватар tory73
papa74, please think about those people who are waiting for your photos and reviews, like the release of books! Write about your stay at the Hilton the way you do! Wipe all ill-wishers nose! You still have more fans! ))) We are just more modest)))!
аватар ljalja
papa74 certainly helped a lot with his advice.
Everyone decides how to evaluate the materials provided by him, everyone decides for himself, but you have to give him his due, he doesn’t suck anything out of his finger, but the fact that a person sometimes gets personal, I think it’s just from an overabundance of emotions, sometimes it’s hard for all of us to restrain him, his opponents, by the way, also do not go into their pocket for a word.
There are many people who have been to many places, but not all, unlike papa74, are in a hurry to share their experience.
аватар alex45
I've noticed that everyone who, for papa to continue to give his reviews here, receives a backing track, Madame Irina Sharm - solid pluses for another scolding for papa. I do not think that TURPRAVDA should be a varnisher of reality, and the world is not easy. Then let's talk only about the beauty of the resorts and everything, and even about the weather. I don’t think that you saw an outright lie in papa’s messages, so if this is a TRUTH, papa should be.
аватар Lysi53
Our family is with you
аватар Lysi53
Dad, you already know everything about yourself, personal ambitions - put aside, take pity on tourists
аватар sigur62
alex45, Madame Irina Sharm doesn't always get pluses. To be offended by daddy 74 you have to be a notorious and narcissistic person. Dad is not a fool and not a primitive gopagent, busy only with sales, and it is interesting for me to read his living thoughts.
Let dad stay with us, without dad, moms will rule the ball here.
аватар Pachok
I'm FOR papu74 without any reservations!
I haven’t read the site for two weeks, perhaps I missed some heated discussions, but, dear comrades!, which of those “20 most rated site experts” gave here at least a tenth of the useful information that dad shares74? Completely free, mind you, it is shared, unlike those figures who are covertly or explicitly promoting their paid services.
As for tolerance, harshness of statements, etc. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and the right to voice it. And not only those who paint everything in pink colors have this right.
Z.Y. I would very, very much like to see a list of those who advocated the removal :))) And also to find out if the administration is ready, all reports and photos of papa74 have also been removed from this site.
аватар sigur62
Moreover, the harshness of statements is easily corrected by a moderator, who, by the way, is very democratic and progressive here. Dad 74, I hope that you did not artificially create this excitement here to raise the rating.
аватар aisha_sharm
I also think dad's contribution is huge, but I would like to understand dad himself: Why exactly is there such aggression on this site??? On other tour sites you are more restrained.
аватар admin
Gentlemen, opponents of the removal of papa74, if you want us to hear you, then first hear us.
Our conversations with papa74 have been going on for two months now.
Our requests and warnings have already been formulated in dozens of posts. Those. This issue has a long and neglected history.
Nowhere is it written that the removal was based on the results of a vote. Nowhere is it written that we don't appreciate background papa74. Recall that he is our "expert of 2010". The removal occurred as a result of a long process of communication. We already wrote that out of 13 pages of all messages from our account for 5 years, 5 pages fall precisely on this period.
A detailed argumentation with a description of our positioning, links and statistics is contained in the thread
http://www.turpravda.com/question-20425.html
The history of our communication is visible in the news feed of the admin profile
http://my.turpravda.com/admin/
Try also to put yourself in the place of those who dared to argue with papa74. And there are already dozens of them on our site.
And let them now declare that this is not critical and not offensive to them. This does not suit us, as it damages our site and its positioning.
And what accusations we have not heard.
аватар admin
Therefore, we ask you (for now) to leave our site calmly and with dignity.
аватар admin
For example, one of papa74's posts for May 21 began like this: "You're not a bitch..anaya"
We have removed this post. But the one to whom it was addressed managed to see it.
What other arguments are needed? Especially for you women!!! What and how many photos of the underwater world can justify this?
We are ashamed that this is happening on our site.
аватар 4yuka
In fact, the site has become very aggressive, I don’t even want to go into it. Well, if you got into the language of our, so to speak, experts, then you’re a khan for sure !!! "board of honor" as the best expert. And another question: what do the best experts get from the site, if they are so for ... tsu tear?
аватар sigur62
Yeah ... The admin brought a funny twig ...
papa74, probably you should go, old man. You really went overboard. Try like this at home to slander your woman in the kitchen, how are agents and moderators here, do you walk for a long time without a pan on your head?
Sorry and goodbye. Try with a different name and a different mood. Everything will be fine.
аватар werty
-- Gentlemen, opponents of deleting papa74...--
But after all, almost all of those who wrote here for the past period.
It is clear to everyone that the existence of an aggressive rara74 is impossible here.
аватар alex45
to 4yuka! The site becomes not only aggressive, but also uninteresting, uninformative, and with the departure of dad, almost invisible comments from Nadine, it gets even worse. Every 2-3 questions, the situation is about the weather, about the Internet and the like !!! The answer to what the experts receive from the site, I can answer this way, I
nothing is needed from the site, as long as it is interesting to me in some way and will give information, I will be on it, if it ceases to satisfy me, I will leave it.
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