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Where would you go first of all after the visa-free regime was opened?
Where would you go first of all after the visa-free regime was opened? Modest budget, tour for 3-4 days. :)
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how modest? what is the difference in the cost of travel before visa-free and after visa-free?
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answered 8 years ago
The cost of travel will not change from visa-free travel, minus the cost of a visa and the pleasure of depending on border guards, who, even with a visa, can wrap up and not let you go abroad.
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answered 8 years ago
visa-free, you will all the more depend on the border guards ... proving your solvency and the purpose of the visit, plus or minus the same documents as for applying for a visa.
Visa costs were minimal.
Visa costs were minimal.
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answered 8 years ago
If no joke - either a last-minute package tour or low-cost tickets for 3 kopecks. Where is not important. But it is necessary to monitor offers every day and the ability to carve out 5-10 days of vacation at any time.
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answered 8 years ago
"visa-free, you will all the more depend on border guards ... proving your ability to pay and the purpose of the visit, plus or minus the same documents as for applying for a visa"
I don’t understand, there are also border guards in Tutsia, Egypt, Thailand. In Thailand, you need to have tickets and about 800 bucks for 15 days (it was like that). There are no problems in these countries in the control of border guards. For three trips to Tai - once they asked me to show either money or a return ticket, I don’t remember already - that’s all!
Will it be different in Europe? Many write horror stories - all sorts of scarecrows ...
I don’t understand, there are also border guards in Tutsia, Egypt, Thailand. In Thailand, you need to have tickets and about 800 bucks for 15 days (it was like that). There are no problems in these countries in the control of border guards. For three trips to Tai - once they asked me to show either money or a return ticket, I don’t remember already - that’s all!
Will it be different in Europe? Many write horror stories - all sorts of scarecrows ...
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answered 8 years ago
Visa-free is good because you don’t have to plan a trip in advance, don’t collect certificates, put money into your account. Don't be afraid of rejection. For my situation, this is very important. Gathered in 2 days and went.
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answered 8 years ago
of course it’s different ... Tai is one thing ... Europe is completely different (c)
How can you not plan like that? And the tickets? What about hotel reservations? Who told you to stop being afraid?
No one gives you guarantees in the presence of biometrics 100% pass to Europe.
How can you not plan like that? And the tickets? What about hotel reservations? Who told you to stop being afraid?
No one gives you guarantees in the presence of biometrics 100% pass to Europe.
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answered 8 years ago
Hasn't it been opened yet?
For a short time, it is logical to go somewhere nearby: either a direct flight, or somewhere where you can easily drive a car from Kyiv. And do not spread out over several cities, limit yourself to one. Krakow, Prague, Budapest, Vienna are great.
For a short time, it is logical to go somewhere nearby: either a direct flight, or somewhere where you can easily drive a car from Kyiv. And do not spread out over several cities, limit yourself to one. Krakow, Prague, Budapest, Vienna are great.
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answered 8 years ago
The man asked for advice, began whining.
I advise you to fly to Budapest, and inexpensive, and close, and interesting.
And visa-free travel really drives. First, you do not need to spend a day to go to the Visa Application Center, stand in line, then wait 10 working days until the passport arrives ... Just bought tickets, booked a hotel and left.
Secondly, the cost of a visa is 35 Euros + service fee of 18.50 Euros + UAH 100. courier delivery (so as not to spend another day to receive) = 53.5 Euro +100 UAH. per person.
For this money you can sit together in a restaurant in Budapest. And if 2 people go, it turns out or 2 dinners in a restaurant, or dinner + bath.
Well, there are other relief reductions.
I advise you to fly to Budapest, and inexpensive, and close, and interesting.
And visa-free travel really drives. First, you do not need to spend a day to go to the Visa Application Center, stand in line, then wait 10 working days until the passport arrives ... Just bought tickets, booked a hotel and left.
Secondly, the cost of a visa is 35 Euros + service fee of 18.50 Euros + UAH 100. courier delivery (so as not to spend another day to receive) = 53.5 Euro +100 UAH. per person.
For this money you can sit together in a restaurant in Budapest. And if 2 people go, it turns out or 2 dinners in a restaurant, or dinner + bath.
Well, there are other relief reductions.
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answered 8 years ago
P.S. I don't recommend driving. Now there are huge queues at checkpoints, you can stand for 10 hours.
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answered 8 years ago
"How can you not plan like that? What about tickets? What about hotel reservations? Who told you that you need to stop being afraid?
No one gives you guarantees if you have biometrics 100% pass to Europe."
1. It’s very easy not to plan (it’s about super budget Europe, without a specific reference to a place) - if there are tickets, it’s not a problem to book a hotel.
2. 100% guarantee, I think you know where they give :)
3. "You can't stop being afraid" - it sounds strange. Frightened Ukrainians on the borders of the EU... One must have self-respect. Yes, it's not easy (for us), but this topic is not for the truth.
No one gives you guarantees if you have biometrics 100% pass to Europe."
1. It’s very easy not to plan (it’s about super budget Europe, without a specific reference to a place) - if there are tickets, it’s not a problem to book a hotel.
2. 100% guarantee, I think you know where they give :)
3. "You can't stop being afraid" - it sounds strange. Frightened Ukrainians on the borders of the EU... One must have self-respect. Yes, it's not easy (for us), but this topic is not for the truth.
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answered 8 years ago
If you are afraid that you will be wrapped up at the border, in the end, you can book a hotel with free cancellation (up to the date of arrival).
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answered 8 years ago
I'm just saying the realities .. and not as it seems ... I collected a backpack .. I took 200 euros and biometrics and go on vacation to Europe.
And what about self-esteem? just biometrics is not a guarantee that you may not be wrapped ...
And what about self-esteem? just biometrics is not a guarantee that you may not be wrapped ...
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answered 8 years ago
This summer, a week-long vacation is planned in Transcarpathia, but before it we will ride along the route Budapest - Milan - Lake Como - through Switzerland to Vienna and through Slovakia to Uzhgorod. Two days for each city is enough, you can see a lot, but it is hardly possible to buy such a tour. If you don’t want (or can’t) drive a car, you can use any other mode of transport, you don’t need travel agents, you don’t need to spend time and money on a visa, but it’s not even about money, but that there is no moment of humiliation when you receive it.
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answered 8 years ago
So tell me how your trip went ... is it so simple ... or is it so difficult when crossing the border after visa-free, especially through the Swiss
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answered 8 years ago
Thanks for the adequate advice, ollennka, kolyan_cat!!! I thought we would discuss the advantages of Prague over Budapest or whether it is worth going to Karlovy Vary ... and so on, but it turned out that the issue of visa-free travel was key for many. Of course, I will have money and hotel reservations with me (although now I am considering package weekend bus tours without night crossings). Thanks everyone!
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answered 8 years ago
Igor_m, and if not by car and not by air, but without a travel agency to Italy, is this possible? Which travel carriers to google?
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answered 8 years ago
))) Igor_m, what exactly is humiliating in the process of obtaining a visa? I came, handed over the documents, a few days later I came for a visa, there are usually no queues. No one in the consulates is beaten or insulted. How is obtaining a visa fundamentally different from the procedure for obtaining a passport or registering a car? But a visa-free country, of course, is always better than a visa-free one when planning a vacation.
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answered 8 years ago
it’s just that in the question you focused your attention “after the visa-free regime was opened” it was budgetary possible to go before the visa-free regime.
Are you considering Warsaw and Krakow?
Are you considering Warsaw and Krakow?
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answered 8 years ago
Krakow has haunted me ever since I found out that UNESCO was one of the first to include it in its World Heritage List.
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answered 8 years ago
AllOverTheWorld, I’ll definitely tell you, but it will be in August, maybe the route will change, maybe I won’t go anywhere if work requires it.
ollennka, I don't stand in line for more than three people for nothing. And Krakow is waiting for you, an unusual city.
ollennka, I don't stand in line for more than three people for nothing. And Krakow is waiting for you, an unusual city.
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answered 8 years ago
Marsyanchik, my friends (people from Kiev) living in Torun (Poland) on buses, trains, planes have visited all European countries several times. There is transport in Europe and it works well, and you can also get to the border from Kyiv without any problems. And I said goodbye to travel agencies and tour carriers a long time ago, so I can’t give advice.
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answered 8 years ago
A short tour is an excursion - Poland, Germany, Austria, Hungary.
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answered 8 years ago
Marsyanchik, look here, maybe you will find something for yourself:
http://www.turpravda.ua/forums/discussion/166612/nazemnyy_transport_poezda_avtobusy_avtomobili_t ransfery#latest
http://www.turpravda.ua/forums/discussion/166612/nazemnyy_transport_poezda_avtobusy_avtomobili_t ransfery#latest
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answered 8 years ago
What's the difference you say? - but for me there is a very big difference (or I don’t understand something),
no need to additionally travel to Kyiv to the Visa Application Center, and this means additional days of asking for time off at work and additional money for travel and a visa, of course. From Poltava to Kyiv for two of us with my husband there 240 + 240 = 480 hryvnia and back 480, the road itself on the minibus Green Elephant 960 hryvnia 1 day, then get +960 and + visas. So there are additional costs for us up to 5000 hryvnia.
no need to additionally travel to Kyiv to the Visa Application Center, and this means additional days of asking for time off at work and additional money for travel and a visa, of course. From Poltava to Kyiv for two of us with my husband there 240 + 240 = 480 hryvnia and back 480, the road itself on the minibus Green Elephant 960 hryvnia 1 day, then get +960 and + visas. So there are additional costs for us up to 5000 hryvnia.
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answered 8 years ago
Why go to Kyiv? If Kharkov is closer? ... but what's the difference
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answered 8 years ago
Igor_m is now being checked by the same Polish border guards no less humiliatingly. The easiest option is the Hungarian border guards. They don’t care at all (at least it was before the introduction of the visa-free regime. The Poles have been stupidly freezing lately. They can wrap up and check one person for 20 minutes. What will happen now after the visa-free regime is generally hard to imagine) p.s. I visit Poland very often. I live in memory
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answered 7 years ago
Modest budget, tour for 3-4 days. :)
Krakow, by bus from Lviv.
Budapest, by bus from Uzhgorod
And don't forget about insurance.
Krakow, by bus from Lviv.
Budapest, by bus from Uzhgorod
And don't forget about insurance.
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answered 7 years ago
Fly by plane, in short ... Since there are such problems with land border crossings.
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