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My friend immigrated to Israel in 1999. He lived for a couple of years and returned to live in Russia. He never returned to Israel. Now he wants to visit Israel, but is worried about being stopped at the border
My friend immigrated to Israel in 1999. He lived for a couple of years and returned to live in Russia. He never returned to Israel. Now he wants to visit Israel, but is worried about being stopped at the border
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аватар pakos
Question - my friend immigrated to Israel in 1999. He lived for a couple of years and returned to live in Russia. He never returned to Israel. Now he wants to visit Israel, but is worried if he might be stopped at the border. When leaving the country, he had small debts to the bank, iria, and a cellular company. How can you check if he is not detained for these debts at the border?
аватар ollennka
Depends on whether the said creditors have sued him or forgotten and forgiven.
аватар pakos
Even if filed these claims are valid after 18 years?
аватар ollennka
You better know the laws of Israel, since you live there. In Russia, for example, proceedings on enforcement orders can be repeatedly suspended and resumed.
аватар pakos
Maybe someone on personal experience checked the work of border guards in such a case? Did someone leave the country despite open court cases?
аватар ollennka
pakos, what specifically worries you? Well, they will shake off debts from this friend, what's so terrible about that? You yourself write that the amount is small. They also cannot prevent an Israeli citizen from entering Israel.
Your question has nothing to do with tourism or even immigration. Call the Israeli bailiff service (or whatever it is called) and ask them about the availability of writ of execution.
аватар pakos
The amount was not large 20 years ago, but what happened next was unknown to him????
They will shake off debts - it sounds scary and no one wants to face this, so many former residents of Israel refuse to come to the country. Is the travel industry suffering from this? Here is the connection with tourism
аватар ollennka
Tourism has nothing to do with it. He is not a tourist, he is a citizen, besides a deviationist. If, after 20 years, you are again drawn to your historical homeland, it will be quite fair to pay your debts. Let him call bailiffs.
аватар pakos
Paying a decent pension to the elderly is also fair. The conversation is not about justice, but about the free movement of a person between Russia and Israel.
аватар pakos
This is the same question as for example - I left Russia 20 years ago and I had a debt in the bank for a couple of hundred dollars. Can I come to Moscow without being stopped at the border control. And that's it!! I do not need to talk about justice, but just for people to share their experience or information.
аватар ollennka
pakos, don't waste your time. You need to go to another forum, tourism is being discussed here, not debts and statute of limitations.
аватар pakos
If the question is not suitable for the forum, then the forum administrator will immediately delete it. Until the topic is closed, I would like to hear more versions of my most interesting story
аватар ollennka
"A girl from Moscow was generally put in jail for the night, and then sent on a flight to Kyiv."
Why not Los Angeles?
pakos, you will get a lot of interesting flood here, take popcorn.
аватар pakos
It is quite realistic that the girl was sent. The border guard, if only there was a reason. Could not explain the purpose of the visit, then go back. Barbarians.
Why not Los Angeles? Unfortunately, his mother does not live in Los Angeles. An elderly parent who, for health reasons, cannot travel long distances. So they have a vicious circle - one cannot, the other is afraid.
So they will never meet.
аватар ollennka
I mean that the Moscow girls should have been returned to Moscow (where they came from), and not to an arbitrary city like Kyiv or Los Angeles.
аватар pakos
You need a visa to Los Angeles, so to Kyiv. Wherever there were places, they were sent there. If only away from Israel. Israel is spoiled by tourists, so do not care about the reputation. Still people go
аватар ollennka
Mongolia also does not need a visa, let's deport to Ulaanbaatar))). They did not have the right to send to an arbitrary city. Well, either the previous speaker was wrong.
аватар Alex_classic
Question - my friend immigrated to Israel in 1999. He lived for a couple of years and returned to live in Russia. He never returned to Israel. Now he wants to visit Israel, but is worried if he might be stopped at the border. When leaving the country, he had small debts to the bank, iria, and a cellular company.
DOES THE RIGHT THING WORRYING.
The debt to the bank, as well as the debt to the cellular company, whatever it may be (not millions of dollars, of course) is written off with a probability of 99.9%. The fact is that customer debt negatively affects profitability. And on stock quotes, respectively. Therefore, after several years of waiting for money, it is easier for banks to write off and forget than to keep it on the balance sheet (it is useless to sue the debtor in his absence in the country). The situation is similar in cell companies ...
But with Iria, everything is different - they do not need to report for profits and they do not have the right to write off the debt just like that. Therefore, it can hang and hang... But a ban on leaving is hardly possible here.
аватар Alex_classic
How can you check if he is not detained for these debts at the border.
NOBODY WILL TOUCH AT THE ENTRANCE - FACT.
DEBTS - NOT A CRIMINAL CRIMINAL (unlike the same desertion, for example). SO, LET IT GO.
And here ollennka is 100% right: "They cannot prevent an Israeli citizen from entering Israel either."
But on departure, problems can arise. To make sure that there are no problems, you need to contact the department of bailiffs (left otslap). Any. I guess you can do it by proxy. A lawyer can definitely - we know they did. But you will have to pay more for this than for a power of attorney.
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