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I want to ask, who knows? I left Israel 25 years ago in 1994, received Ukrainian citizenship, refused Israeli citizenship 20 years ago, now I want to go to Israel on vacation
I have an unpaid loan of 3000 dollars approximately. Can I, a citizen of Ukraine, be blocked from leaving Israel and how can I find out the number of my teudat zeuta when I was an Israeli citizen? Thanks?
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This is a thriller: nickname "Pole", the country of Germany, citizenship of Ukraine, a loan in Israel.))
I think it depends on what actions the bank took (or who gave you a loan there): did you go to court, what was the court decision.
I think it depends on what actions the bank took (or who gave you a loan there): did you go to court, what was the court decision.
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answered 8 years ago
You need to know what the statute of limitations is in Israel (perhaps this is already a bad loan for the bank and your credit history is closed.). If you are in the border service on certain lists of violators - at best - wrapped, at worst - detained.
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answered 8 years ago
It also happens ... Thanks for the answer. Once he lived in Israel, then he returned to Ukraine, now I have been living in Germany for 16 years, but Ukrainian citizenship.
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answered 8 years ago
Here is this:
2. Civil lawsuits.
Real estate lawsuit – The statute of limitations can be 15 or 25 years, depending on the type of property.
non-property lawsuit – the statute of limitations is 7 years.
At the same time, in accordance with certain laws, the statute of limitations for civil claims may be different. For example, the statute of limitations for defective goods is 3 years.
In the case of civil claims, the limitation period will begin from the moment the cause of action arises.
In the case of civil claims, the period during which the claimant is under 18 years of age is not taken into account for calculating the limitation period.
In accordance with the law, the limitation period may be reduced by mutual agreement of the parties entering into an agreement, transaction, etc., in the case of civil claims not related to real estate. However, it can be at least 6 months, and a separate written agreement must be drawn up.
2. Civil lawsuits.
Real estate lawsuit – The statute of limitations can be 15 or 25 years, depending on the type of property.
non-property lawsuit – the statute of limitations is 7 years.
At the same time, in accordance with certain laws, the statute of limitations for civil claims may be different. For example, the statute of limitations for defective goods is 3 years.
In the case of civil claims, the limitation period will begin from the moment the cause of action arises.
In the case of civil claims, the period during which the claimant is under 18 years of age is not taken into account for calculating the limitation period.
In accordance with the law, the limitation period may be reduced by mutual agreement of the parties entering into an agreement, transaction, etc., in the case of civil claims not related to real estate. However, it can be at least 6 months, and a separate written agreement must be drawn up.
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answered 8 years ago
OK . Thank you! Can I somehow find out the number of my then teudat zeuta, does anyone know?
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answered 8 years ago
santa barbara is in shock .... a man voluntarily traded izyu for ukra))))) this, honestly, I meet for the first time)))) emphasis on voluntarily and 20 years ago)))) Good luck in solving problems)))))
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answered 8 years ago
Well, 20 years ago it was a completely different Ukraine...
In general, this is a greyhound of course: first get out of the country that gave you money in debt, and then go there to rest)))
In general, this is a greyhound of course: first get out of the country that gave you money in debt, and then go there to rest)))
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answered 8 years ago
How can they even know who you are? They cannot have the numbers of a new Ukrainian passport, you will not show Israeli documents .... And how?
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answered 8 years ago
Yes, they’ll find out, that’s it ... My brother went there five years ago, he also once left Israel like me a long time ago, but he didn’t have any debts, he entered with his Ukrainian passport, though then a visa was needed, so they figured everything out and kept him at the airport for 4 hours, checked something, but then released him. So somehow they calculate that he was once a citizen of Izril ...!
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answered 8 years ago
In continuation of my first answer - the period of storage of data (including archival) in the databases of the border service. It could be like this: three years are operational data, up to 10 years are archived., although there are persons who are banned from entering for life ..
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answered 8 years ago
So it's a visa. Well, I will not say, but it seems unrealistic to me.
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answered 8 years ago
Yes, perhaps because I entered on a visa, then I had to get a visa at the Israeli consulate.
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answered 8 years ago
There is a good proverb - "Do not spit in the well - you will have to get drunk." And repay the debt, weak? Or is it not even discussed? I already spoke with the administration of the forum. It's a pity that the Israeli branch was turned into a bunch of gangsters. Some need to get illegally, others need to hide their criminal past. Alas, I was not heard. And you, dear, go to Turkey, Cyprus or Egypt - the same sea and also the sun. Or did you feel so bad in Germany that you remembered your Jewishness? You miscalculated, you did not see stability and economic prosperity in Israel, but were looking for temporary prosperity, but it ended. One country was plundered, and DAISH came to the second. Please accept my condolences and sorry for the harshness.
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answered 8 years ago
Yes, you're right, I'm a real brute...! You have reached out to my conscience... I will do exactly as you advise me... I will just fly to Israel and surrender to the authorities... Thank you for your condolences and for your toughness...!
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answered 8 years ago
I beg you, unpaid debt to the bank is an achievement, not a crime)
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answered 8 years ago
I hope that three thousand was worth 20 years of fear to come to Israel ... Another option is to change your name and enter with a fresh foreign passport, then they will not notice. Costs only for the replacement of passports, the time is also short.
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answered 8 years ago
a-polyak, if you are not an Israeli citizen, then it is not realistic to prohibit you from leaving as a foreign citizen because of a debt to someone!
The State of Israel does not care about your property relations with individuals. or legal entity! A travel ban for an Israeli citizen is issued by a court (more precisely, a bailiff) for a year. After that, arguments are needed for an extension ... In addition, it’s hard for me to believe that in 20 years this penny (by Israeli standards) debt has not been written off. Neither a bank nor a private company needs stuck loans - they are written off and forgotten.
The State of Israel does not care about your property relations with individuals. or legal entity! A travel ban for an Israeli citizen is issued by a court (more precisely, a bailiff) for a year. After that, arguments are needed for an extension ... In addition, it’s hard for me to believe that in 20 years this penny (by Israeli standards) debt has not been written off. Neither a bank nor a private company needs stuck loans - they are written off and forgotten.
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answered 8 years ago
So, you can be 99.9999% calm. Come to Israel! It's already warm here and it's the most relaxing thing :)
Rest in Israel - do not work.
And to be 100% calm, you should check in the "bikoret gvulot" (border reference service). But for this you really need the number of your Israeli identity card (teudat zehut). If you, a-polyak, had at least some docks from your "past" life, you would try to help. And so, without writing your last name and first name in Hebrew, this matter is extremely difficult. Maybe a private detective can help. But it will cost money - maybe a hundred, maybe two. Not shekels, of course :)
Rest in Israel - do not work.
And to be 100% calm, you should check in the "bikoret gvulot" (border reference service). But for this you really need the number of your Israeli identity card (teudat zehut). If you, a-polyak, had at least some docks from your "past" life, you would try to help. And so, without writing your last name and first name in Hebrew, this matter is extremely difficult. Maybe a private detective can help. But it will cost money - maybe a hundred, maybe two. Not shekels, of course :)
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answered 8 years ago
So that only for health!
There will be news - write. You can also ask for an extract from the bailiffs department in any court. It's not worth the money.
I often visit Tel Aviv near the city court, so there is no problem to come in and find out if there is a case against you (I am sure that if there was, it was closed long ago). So you will be calmer.
There will be news - write. You can also ask for an extract from the bailiffs department in any court. It's not worth the money.
I often visit Tel Aviv near the city court, so there is no problem to come in and find out if there is a case against you (I am sure that if there was, it was closed long ago). So you will be calmer.
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answered 8 years ago
Thank you very much! For me now the main problem is to find the number of my teudat zeuta. Now I am dealing with this issue, I think it will not be possible to find out anything without this number.
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answered 8 years ago
Well, you didn’t want to serve in the army, like “renounced citizenship”, but where did you get the idea that you “retired citizenship”, you are identified as a citizen, further, you are afraid that they will close your exit from the country before paying 100 chatl ... Well, this is possible, but unlikely, it was too long ago and the amount is small, you no longer have this debt.
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answered 8 years ago
And where did you get that I "did not want to serve in the army"!? Before moving to Israel, I served two years in the Soviet army and, according to the law of the State of Israel, I was obliged as a reservist to be called up to miluim, which I did while I lived there. The departure was due to other reasons. But today I have already solved my problems: through a lawyer I found out my teudat zeuta number (when I was a citizen) and after that I received information on my questions.
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answered 8 years ago