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Will they let you through passport control?
Please tell me! There was a problem - I have a multivisa in my passport valid until 08/09/2011, the passport expires on 10/03/2011. I am going to France via Germany from 07/10/2011 for 2 or 3 weeks. Will they let me into the Schengen if it is obvious that after the end of the trip the passport will be valid for less than three months, namely, 2.5 months!??? Now the problem is to change the passport or not ... (((
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аватар Anetka-gan
No one can give you a 100% answer. it all depends on the customs officer you get to, notice or not. In general, the Germans are strict and can find fault.
generally should be allowed.
you still start making a passport, your visa is active even with a second passport.
аватар FemmeFatale
Thanks a lot. And how will the visa be active if the passport is canceled?
аватар oresta52
to FemmeFatale If your old passport contains valid visas, then your old passport will not be taken away. My advice: Get yourself a new passport and go abroad with two passports. And it’s not worth the risk that your passport expires, although little attention is paid to this when leaving the country. It is important that you leave on time, while your visa is valid.
аватар Anetka-gan
A visa is issued (roughly speaking) not for a passport, but for a person!! changing your passport is not a reason for visa cancellation! What are you!))) You can really keep a second passport.
аватар FemmeFatale
that is, I can make a new passport, and just show the old one and say that there is a valid visa?? and tickets in this case for the old can be bought?? and the second just to take for insurance????
аватар oresta52
If you make a new passport, then you will live on a new passport, and you need to take a ticket for a new passport! And only a visa will connect you with the old one, which you will show to the border guards!
аватар FemmeFatale
Do you think I will have time to get a new passport before the end of June??? (After all, an old-style passport seems to be made faster than a new one?) Or try to go with an old passport? ........ after all, it is unlikely that border guards will count with an accuracy of days?
аватар oresta52
You hand over documents for a new passport, no one will take your old one from you. If you don’t have time to make a new one, then be prepared for the fact that if the border guard notices your date, then be prepared to give him (10-20). Those who like to tear off, they are watching this, and most of them will definitely not notice it. But this is not a gross violation. It is the fault of the consulate that they gave you a visa before such a date. They should have shortened this visa by 2 weeks. So feel free to go with your visa, no one should find fault with you! because you have been GIVED the OK TO STAY in the country before this date!
аватар FemmeFatale
Thank you very much!
So I'm going to return 2 weeks earlier before the visa expires :)
It turns out that you can just pay a "fine" ??
By the way, another question, what if they ask for confirmation of the place of residence, but I do not have a hotel reservation? I'm just going to live with a friend. She offers to send some document that she invites me, signed by her.. should this be an official invitation? after all, I don’t need it for a visa, but just to confirm that I will really be staying with me ??
аватар oresta52
If you have a visa, the consulate that made it checked all the documents for you (you submitted them), otherwise you would not have been granted a visa. These questions should not interest anyone. I just repeat that there are such border guards who are looking for something to fuck. They are looking for cowardly, insecure people and they use it. Behave with dignity and confidence, and no one will ask you unnecessary questions. Now, if the police find you on the street at night, they have the right to ask where you live.
аватар FemmeFatale
I understand :) thank you very much!
аватар Anetka-gan
oresta are you out of your mind?))) sorry! what are you teaching girls?
this is not Turkey or Egypt, the Germans are very strict about bribes !!
Femmefatale
if you really fight, then ask only for an OFFICIAL fine, no bribes, it wasn’t enough for you to be initiated there! because you have multi-Schengen, then there will be a minimum of questions for you. you can make a "left" reservation on any booking site, and show it if asked.
Submit documents for a passport, along the way you will figure out whether you will have time to take it with you or not. timing - depends on your local services. You can of course do it urgently.
аватар oresta52
To Anetka-gan If I'm not sure about something, I don't answer questions. You didn't ask FemmeFatale how she would get to Germany, did you? If she flies by plane, then the German border guards will not ask such questions! If she crosses the border of Poland to get to Germany, then on the Polish border this happens all the time, even they can offer to go to her booth for a conversation. I come across this, I sometimes accompany such buses that bring tourists from Moscow, get there in Minsk and go to Europe through Poland. So do not La-la! No one teaches to give, but not to give, if it requires (the Poles love it horror), then you will only lose time. Another time a whole bus is waiting for one person.
аватар Anetka-gan
FemmeFatale wrote "I'm going to France through Germany" what does the Poles have to do with it?????? just the Germans often ask questions, different.
аватар oresta52
Of course, you visit Europe more, you know better, let him listen to your advice, I do not insist on my recommendations. To get directly to Germany, you need an airplane. And I answered, if she goes by bus, then she will not escape Poland!
аватар DegusT
yes, apparently only the Slavic mentality allows such sudden corrupt actions. Girl, don't try to give them money - after all, this is a crime in Europe ... You will immediately be led away by a monkey man ...
And the situation with 2 passports, one of which is empty and valid, and the second with a visa, but in the critical limit as 100%, will not be understood by any European ... Well, it’s only here that they are so humiliated. And no talk about girlfriends and intentions to return does not bother anyone there. Girl - you are a potential immigrant, and an obvious one. It is a pity that such a situation ... But how did you manage to contact France, get a visa and look at such obvious errors?
I wish you to get there without incident.
аватар Katyyy
To expedite the receipt of a new passport, try contacting a travel agency, they can speed up the process for a fee or find other "connections".
аватар FemmeFatale
Yes, in fact, I will now give the documents for a new passport, in a month it will be ready, I will reissue the air tickets ... the main thing is to be sure that the visa will not be canceled .... or do I need to go to the consulate ???? And in general the situation with two passports is normal? that is, when there is a clean passport and a valid visa is in the second canceled one ???
аватар FemmeFatale
Of course, I will fly by plane, but I don’t know through which city ... in general, my girlfriend lives near Basel (Basel-Mulhouse airport)! I planned to fly either to Dusseldorf or to Basel...
аватар DegusT
the situation with 2 passports is not normal!!!
Especially like in your case.
Poor Norwegians, opening a direct flight to Ukraine, specifically asked if it was legal?:
- Can 1 gr. Ukraine in the hands of 2 passports at once ???
- can it be that these are red and blue passports ???
- Why are red passports not recycled when entering blue passports ???
But when a citizen with the "old red" arrived among the first passengers, the Norwegians were completely driven into the maze of Ukrainian. passportization, they found out: maybe there are three types of foreign passports operating simultaneously in the country. passports: old red, newer red (photo scan) and blue ??? That's the task.
Do you think you can explain clearly why you have such a situation?? Yes, they even without excellent in. do not understand the language!
аватар DegusT
And keep in mind, just in case. A colored visa glued to the passport is not an automatic pass to the country. This is the actual report of the embassy before the border. service that your dossier has been checked. And the border guard himself, in case of any doubt, can demand original documents from you and decide whether to let you into his country? I know several U-turns of our citizens already directly at the border with a legal visa in their passport. But it seemed to some Pierre that you personally alarmed him ... and that’s all ... goodbye!
аватар Katyyy
to my mind. it is easier to postpone the trip and arrange everything "in a human way", a new passport, a new visa, etc. If you, after all the disputes of experts, still intend to travel with an old passport, you are a brave woman! And I would not play Russian roulette.
As Anetka-gan correctly noted, there can be no 100% guarantee or "for sure" answer here. You don't even have to go into details.
аватар FemmeFatale
Yes, I have already prepared documents for a new passport. Tomorrow I'll come and give it back, but about the visa, then I'll just go to the consulate. if they say to cancel the old one and make a new one, then I will do it) I will not spoil relations with the law :) I think this is the only way when you can not worry at least about the documents!
аватар sigur62
Since January last year, you can't travel with two passports. We visit Finland every week, each time four stamps in the passport: we have entry-exit and the Finns have entry-exit. Yes, the pages in the passport end earlier than the annual multivisa, so they issued a new passport and traveled in two: stamps were slapped into the new one, and they looked at the visa in the old (cancelled) one. That's it, more than a year since they canceled this indulgence. This applies not only to Finland, but to all Schengen countries. Dear oresta52, if you do not know the essence of the question, do not answer at all and do not mislead people.
аватар sigur62
Now about the fact that the passport will end 2.5 months before the end of your trip. When crossing the border, you will only be asked if you will stay in the Schengen area for one day, three or more. The fact is that there are rules for the transport of alcohol, and they just depend on the number of days of stay in the Schengen countries. Inform that you are going for a week, this is not fixed ANYWHERE, and suddenly you liked it, or, God forbid, you got sick there ... The main thing is to cross the border before the visa expires, even on the last day.
Don't be afraid, good luck!
аватар oresta52
Dear sigur62! That's exactly why we go to Poland like that, including me. I change my passport every year because of these stamps. And I went at the end of March in the same way! So don’t transfer your special case to Finland (I don’t go there, I don’t know) to the entire Schengen. From our side, Schengen is Poland. As for the passage of the border, ask me, I will answer any question. You will pass the Polish border guards and roll wherever you want ...
аватар sigur62
May be. Poland was probably mistakenly accepted into the Schengen)))
In any case, the girl should go quietly on a VALID passport with a VALID visa. No problem.
аватар oresta52
They probably took it by mistake, thereby opening the gates to all of Europe. I do not impose my opinion on anyone, I say how it happens and how people drive.
At the passport office, they don’t pick up a passport with a valid visa, they probably also have some kind of instructions on this matter.
аватар sigur62
I am still sure that you are misleading everyone, and here's why. A man went "on two passports" to Poland, from there to Germany, then by ferry to Finland, and now he leaves Schengen through the Finnish border. The visa will be canceled and this person will be quarantined for a year or two, i.e. for so long he will not receive a Schengen visa. So some kind of "decree" on the Polish border is complete nonsense, for this they unified the border laws within the Schengen Agreement. Well, oresta52, let your statement remain on your conscience, you are an authoritative old expert, and I will not discuss with you.
аватар oresta52
And if we take this particular case, then here is the mistake of the embassy - they should have counted 3 months before the expiration of the passport and thereby reduce the visa. If they didn't, they GAVE THE GOOD TO STAY THE PERSON UNTIL A CERTAIN VISA EXPIRY DATE!.
And there is nothing to breed demagoguery here, no one at the border looks at the dates of the passport, they look at the VISA (if the stay has not expired. If I had it, I would not even pay attention to it. They come with such passports to book for Turkey, Egypt. You tell people you can't leave now, your passport is running out! He demands, writes a receipt that he was warned that only he is responsible, and he's going! He will come from vacation and mock us! Nobody even noticed that the last month went to the passport! But already for a Schengen visa, such a passport will not be taken to the consulate, at least write 10 receipts!
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