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From Sharm to Israel How are things going with border control 2018, for Ukraine?
I read that Ukrainians have tightened control on the border with Israel and many are being returned back. This is true?
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аватар OliverTvist
Of the 10 people in the group that went from Sharm to Israel, 4 were returned.
The tour guide cost $100 for 2 days. On the beach - 50 dollars.
аватар mindguru
Controls have been tightened for everyone. Including for the Russians. Who needs to be let in, who needs to be turned away. There is no discrimination.
Even I have not heard that dear Russians walked along the green strip, and Ukrainians were nightmares on the border.
аватар Pretorian00757
And in case of refusal, some% of the money is not returned?
аватар olesjo
4 out of 10 = 40% or more. Losing an hour and money because of "who needs "? And without any explanation!
аватар mindguru
Pretorian00757, what kind of rejection are you referring to? If you are not allowed to enter the territory of Israel, accordingly, you do not pay a fee for crossing the border. However, no one is obliged to return the money for the tour from Sharm to Israel and is not obliged to, because the organizers of the tour do not bear any responsibility for the actions of customs officers. In principle, this is logical.
аватар yana49
The money is returned by the operator who sold the tour. Out of 100 dollars, 35 dollars were returned. Moreover, in case of not passing to Israel, they spent at least 20 dollars. per person for returning back to the hotel. The humiliation is indescribable, I think it’s not worth going through Sharm, although they say through tour operators the percentage of entry into Israel is much higher, I mean anex tour.
аватар Pretorian00757
Thanks for the replies. Perhaps I’ll fly to Israel separately somehow)
аватар Pavel1900
Catch my life hack!
When traveling from Sharm to Israel, the most important thing is that whatever you get turned up, DO NOT take anything with you at all, not even a dental puppy, in general, only a passport and a bottle of water, so you will greatly increase the chances that you will not be turned at the border!
аватар ollennka
A great life hack for a two-day excursion.
People, think about it, why so eager to enter a country that does not want to let you in? I can still understand individual fanatically believing comrades who need to pray for a bloody nose on the temple mount. But for ordinary tourists, even without Israel, there are enough countries with antiquities. The Dead Sea is also in Jordan.
аватар Pavel1900
ollennka
Well, this is just your opinion, I was there once, absolutely not religious, but I think you need to visit Israel once in your life! Moreover, if you go on an excursion from Sharm, the easiest and cheapest way to go there, so the more options for how to get there, so that you don’t wrap up, you know the better!
аватар ollennka
You are just lucky to get into 6 tourists out of 10 who were missed. If you hadn’t missed it, I think you would have spoken differently about Israel.
аватар Pavel1900
ollennka
AAAA, here it is, they didn’t let you in))) But if they had known my life hack earlier, they would have let you in too ....
аватар katass
the conclusion suggests itself .... if you want extra * headache * and hassle .... welcome to an excursion to Israel .....
аватар ollennka
Katass, that's right!
And then life hacks here, you know, they invent ... I'd rather go to other countries without any life hacks normally. After a bunch of terrible reviews about Israeli border guards, there is not the slightest desire to tempt fate. It is not ruled out that someday you will want a portion of extreme sports and negative impressions, but definitely not now.
аватар mishatour
Pavel, your advice is worth listening to). And everyone has already forgotten the "smut" Sinai, although less than three years have passed. Israel is not to blame for what is happening at the border. Tourists who can clearly formulate the purpose of their visit do not experience problems. "Golovnyak" is not only in Israel and our right to choose from many evils .... security, price, border crossing. I think that priorities should be read from left to right, and not vice versa).
аватар Pavel1900
mishatour
Shalom, you definitely like it!)
аватар mishatour
Shalom, thanks for the sober look ..)
аватар andrey_sedov
Today, May 8, 2018, out of 2 buses from Sharm, only 92 people (all have holy land badges), about a third were not allowed into Israel !!!
With the exception of a family from Moldova (3 people, including children), all the rest are Ukrainians.
In addition, Ukrainian was wrapped up in front of our eyes. a group of tourists with badges anex tour, in full force, people 10-15.
Our tour was bought from street / Internet / hotel tour operators at a price of 70-75 dollars / person, of which the organizer took 60. 30 agreed to compensate.
Questions related to work, money taken with them, marital status, luggage. Many people checked their phone - contacts, Viber, etc.
They kept the pain. 5 hours. Out of those sent for additional questioning/examination with things (in a separate room), only a few were able to gain access. The rest were returned to Egypt, the reason - "they did not have time to check, but your bus in Israel had already left."
The trip back to the Egyptians has already been put on the conveyor, 16 dollars / person and you are at your hotel in Sharm, with one stop in Dahab.
Pity yourself and your nerves. 122 dollars - into the pipe.
аватар andrey_sedov
P.S.
Yes, and a clearly formulated reason - an excursion, a visit to holy places - is clearly not enough. Finding fault with everything, looking for clues in everything. The new biometric Ukrainian passport is also the reason.
Ukrainians under the guise of tourists from Egypt remain in Israel, the cases are not isolated .. Thanks to them !!
аватар lynky01
My friend and I crossed the border without any problems. Everyone was waiting for an interrogation and all sorts of horrors, but everything worked out! From our group, they did not let young guys 25+, and a couple of adult men 40+. Families are fine. They explained to us that it would be better on the phone so that there would be no Israeli and Egyptian contacts, photos with Arabs. Many things not to carry on! But at the same time I had a backpack and a handbag - norms!
аватар mishatour
Who is to blame and what to do???
If you look at the Israeli thread, you can see that 99.9% of the members of the forum are interested in illegal work in Israel and everything connected with it. Therefore, one does not even have to be an expert of the migration service to understand the trend of tourism from Ukraine. This is one side of the coin. The second is that it would probably be more correct for Israel to refuse (for a while) the visa-free regime. It is wrong to subject 70% of tourists to interrogation and deportation, it is insulting to people and hurts the prestige of Israel. But the abolition of the visa-free regime is a step backwards in relations between states. And no one dares to take this step ... and we have what we have.
аватар mishatour
And what to do???
Tourists from UKRAINE, whose age is up to 45-50, and who do not have an invitation from relatives or acquaintances, it is better not to tempt fate. Unfortunately, this is the situation today. We will not hang labels on those who illegally want to work in Israel, and on those who do not let them in... Today it is an objective reality, hostages of which sometimes become real
аватар mishatour
...... real tourists (isolated cases)
The Egyptian resort town of Taba has become a potential gateway for illegal immigrants ... This is the most budget option to get to Israel. I think that the Israeli migration services know about this)
аватар Lyusiaverh
My sister and I were lucky, we were among those lucky ones whom we missed, out of the whole group, 30 percent were not allowed.
And among them were a husband and wife -
the wife passed and the husband was not allowed in, both left for the hotel. I was afraid that they would not let me in because this was my first passport and, in general, my first trip abroad. I came across a pretty adequate girl in the window, asked where and by whom I work, with whom I was going and whether this was my first passport, asked for a phone, watched it for about five minutes, asked for a hotel reservation from Sharm El Sheikh and missed it.
Indeed, as everyone here writes, customs clearance takes a lot of hours.
By the way, I could not understand and believe that many people are not allowed in because of illegal work. But I believed it .. From our group, two women did not return to Sharm, they got lost, then they called the guide back and said they would not return back, no matter what they were looking for. Like this.
аватар Ukraine.ua
We got a lot of unpleasant impressions !!!!! We shook to the Israeli border from Sharm for 3 hours, stood in line for a survey to pass through the border for 1 hour, then waiting for an answer for 3 hours. A representative of a tour company in Israel came out and told our group (52 people) who had not received passports that they were not letting us in due to the suspicion that we could stay to work. T e out of 3 buses of tourists 1 went to work!!!! Weird statistic! I have a great job in Ukraine, I don't know Hebrew, I don't know English well, but my native language is perfect! But my family and I really wanted to visit the holy places. We took a cheaper hotel in Sharm to have money left for an excursion to Israel - as a result, we spent an extra $ 50 per person on an “excursion” to the border and back in an uncomfortable bus at night !!! We slept the whole next day (that is, the lost day of rest in Egypt). Can all the same it is better to return visas? So at least in my country I will understand that it makes no sense for me to waste my time on a trip to Israel.
аватар Stanislav_5
I read yes!!
And now we wanted to go to Sharm and drive to holy places, we are over 60.
It's good that I flew from Turkey to Israel in 2007 - there were no problems. Everyone was let through, even a Russian grandmother with her grandson without a power of attorney.
аватар shok2017
On October 5, 2018, there were about 50 of us (Ukrainians (we too). Russians, Belarusians) from ANEX tour and a local tour operator in Egypt and Israel - TRUST TOURS (those who bought not at the hotel from their operator) were not allowed to enter Israel from Tabs. We (my daughter and I) were not interrogated, because I was indignant after the words of the guide (Aleksey) that it takes 15-20 minutes for each interrogation, if there are so many of us, then we won’t get on the bus before 11:00, i.e. there will be an incomplete tour, which makes no sense, so if they don’t let us through for 30 minutes, the bus will not wait for us. What is it? I demand from the guide that he tell the border guards and return our passports, because. I don't see the point of sitting on the border in this case. But there were some people who were slapped with deportation (you can’t say otherwise). Many people looked through the phones, counted the money. They asked an elderly woman (who was not let in after interrogation) why she was resting in Egypt without her husband, so that the photo of the hotel showed whether there were friends / relatives in Israel, to which she replied: “No”, to her: “Why then do you need to go to Israel? She : “To see the holy places, to pray”, to her: “Can’t you pray at home?”, They asked the man for a photo from work ...
аватар shok2017
I was asked only 3 questions (the border guard did not speak Russian very well). But he was skewed by the answer that my daughter and I are visiting (planned) Israel for the 3rd time. Well, we love to visit holy places in Israel! Or rather, they loved it. After the first impressions of the holy land: sublime and spiritual, really “goosebumps” .. Now, after such a disgusting, degrading procedure, I even wanted to sue the state of Israel. Dissuaded, they said it would be too expensive. So now I'm anti-advertising excursions to Israel (.
аватар shok2017
We were returned 80 out of $200 (for 2). I asked TEZ TOUR how much they withhold in case of return from the Israeli border, they answered $30-40, depending on the number of not missed. at the border, we went through all the procedures, except for the border guards, in just 1.5 hours. Many Poles rode with us, they just flew past the border guards. It seems that they received permission to enter Israel with one glance.
аватар shok2017
Yes, and I also talked with the guides in Sharm, the day before on Monday, out of 83 people, only 5 were allowed in.
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