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I am flying from Kyiv with my 17-year-old daughter. Do I need a notarized power of attorney from my father to leave?
I am flying from Kyiv with my 17-year-old daughter. Do I need a notarized power of attorney from my father to leave?
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аватар Vika284
17 years old is not necessary, the rules are written for children under 16 years old
аватар moy_contakt
The eldest from her first marriage could not even make a foreign passport without a power of attorney from her father .... Dad himself did not go abroad and did not let his daughter. But as soon as she turned 16, we issued a passport and a power of attorney was no longer required from him. So don't worry, take it easy. It's true, I've tested it myself.
аватар Olgaolga153
"Dad didn't go abroad himself and didn't let his daughter in." ______ Well, you have to be so "caring." ((
аватар lana_181
It used to be up to 18. Now, ask any notary.
аватар moy_contakt
Yes, call the border service for reassurance, I once specified that. But at 17, you definitely don’t need any permissions and powers of attorney. Well, the travel agency should also know these points.
аватар NatashaS
It used to be until 18. - When, under Tsar Panko? And what is the notary :?
Providing citizens with answers to questions of a consultative nature within the competence of the State Border Guard Service of Ukraine (044) 527-63-63 - for those who have been banned from Google.
аватар Lucky525
This summer I went with my granddaughter to Europe. You don't need anything from your parents. I was also worried, I called the border service, the girl is 16 years old. According to the new rules, from 16 years old is like an adult
аватар lana_181
NatashaS, not for the king of peas, but 4 years ago. And the notary, despite the fact that it is he who issues the permission to export the child. He knows the laws. what when and why. everything is simple) I don’t understand why ask such questions on a travel forum. If everything is much easier to find out. Just go to the Internet.)))
аватар moy_contakt
lana_181, it’s very strange, my daughter is now 20, and she turned 16 4 years ago and it was then that I made her a passport and called the border service with the question of whether a power of attorney from dad was needed .... And then we went on vacation already without permissions ..... You are clearly confusing something .....
аватар moy_contakt
And the notary usually does what he is asked to issue a power of attorney, he did, whether it is necessary or not, this is a different body - the border service.
аватар lana_181
moy_contakt. I probably made a mistake only in the number of years, maybe 5.. I also had such a problem with my son.. and I went through all the circles of hell when taking my son abroad. We were waiting for the 18th birthday. Even at 16, you needed permission from your father. so I don't confuse anything. so you give! A notary is a civil servant. And he cannot issue what you want. They work with the law and know it. I am writing about what I know firsthand. and why this dispute? Questions about the departure of a child abroad should not be asked here.
аватар moy_contakt
In no case did I mean that the notary draws up anything at all, but I meant that if he was contacted on the issue of issuing a power of attorney, then of course he will issue it, this is his income, but for questions you will need it or not, it's for another service. 2013, daughter 16 years old, issued a passport and flew to Turkey in May. I don't confuse anything. Without any permission from her father, because to this day he believes that there is nothing to do in Turkey and other countries .... I also remember everything very well. How I applied to the border service of the Kharkiv airport. And from the age of 17.5, she generally went to study in Germany. She herself received a visa, in general, no one's permission was required by the axis, and to this day she lives and studies in Munich.
аватар kolyan_cat
The notary is not in the know, or rather it is not his question.
Turning to a notary and asking is like going into a tiger's cage with a piece of meat, waving in front of your nose and asking if you like it or not.
A power of attorney is definitely NOT NEEDED.
Crossed the border with my 16 year old daughter 2 weeks ago. I give the border guard a power of attorney from my mother - he says "no need. From the age of 16, a power of attorney from the parents is NOT NEEDED."
аватар kolyan_cat
And yes, when issuing a power of attorney, they also naively asked a notary, she said so streamlined "according to the law it is not necessary, but often they require it, and you decide for yourself whether you need it or not," so we were seduced and said goodbye to 300 hryvnia. Therefore, waiting for the truth from a notary is naive. And no notary is a civil servant, he is a private entrepreneur.
аватар lana_181
It can be seen that I just have good notaries)) And I can always turn to them on any issue, if suddenly I don’t know something for sure. We made out and checked the children, perhaps because the child was traveling without relatives? I don’t remember the nuances. But permission from my father was required. And it wasn't a notary who told me that. The notary only made the documents. But they are representatives of the law. And a good notary will not be streamlined or otherwise tell whether it is necessary or not. The most interesting. The one who asked, as always absent))
аватар lana_181
kolyan_cat but about a private entrepreneur, they made fun)) there are private and state notaries, but they are subordinate to the Ministry of Justice .. something like that)
аватар moy_contakt
The main goal of any notary is to make money. Therefore, if he was approached with the need to draw up documents and this is in his competence, then who will refuse.
аватар agent_borabora
After the age of 16, no permits are required.
аватар kolyan_cat
Lana, let me question how good your notary is. A 100% power of attorney is not required.
My daughter's girlfriend is studying in Poland and from the age of 16 she travels from Kyiv to Poland on her own, without parents and, accordingly, without powers of attorney.
If you are sure that your notary is right and a power of attorney is needed, let's bet on a box of cognac so as not to shake the keyboard in vain))
аватар lana_181
kolyan_cat read carefully what I wrote about. What's with the notary? I'd like to argue that it's not for me. At the time when my son was traveling and I wrote when it was .. I needed permission to leave the child, not permission! And this, as they say in Odessa, is two big differences. I am as sure that my notary is good as you are that notaries are private entrepreneurs and do not report to anyone))
аватар lana_181
kolyan_cat and yes, I don't drink cognac.
аватар kolyan_cat
Lana, then you are talking about the past tense, but the question is about the present. Now you don't need to do anything at the notary's office. And the knowledge of what was once required, under Tsar Peas, will not help the author of the question in any way.
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