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Tell me, from 4.12.11 I’m going to go to the Sheikh, but against the backdrop of the events taking place in Egypt, with their next revolution, now I don’t know whether to go or not?
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аватар turdur49
Whatever you are advised, it’s up to you to decide anyway. Here they mainly ask what the weather will be like from June 16, or the price of a hotel from July 20, etc. and a lot of other “interesting” things. Yes, but interesting Less and less.
аватар miki08
It's up to you to decide. The information is open everywhere, so draw your own conclusions.
аватар Zlata28
agree with the above
it's up to you and only you
because no one will give you a 100% security guarantee
аватар Mirimma
Try to somehow contact those who are there now. Maybe this will give you more objective information to make a decision.
I just remembered 2 cases. The first one - my friends had children in France during the riots there - poor parents, of course, but everyone wanted to ask how were these terrible rioters, saw the riots? The answer was surprising - yes, for the first time they asked to show them to us on an excursion - they say relatives ask, but we don’t know anything, we even saw the second ourselves - we knew what to look for and how it looks.
The second case - we rested in Abkhazia in 2008 (me and 2 daughters) - I still haven’t erased my husband’s terrible SMS, which came on the train - the meaning of them there is something like that there ... late child (born well over 30) - a boy of preschool age and her mother (grandmother is not at all young). The whole coast *grandma* moaned - and where are you taking me to the war under the bullets ... most importantly - she was worried about how she would be there *under the bullets *, and not a single moaning or word, what would happen with the child or with his mother - the child is still to raise and raise. So these are the whole war - they saw 1 patrol on the road, a traffic police post or traffic police and a helicopter flew over the sea 1 time.
аватар Mirimma
And it's up to you to decide.
аватар lsklsk
Now everything is calm in the resorts (but this is only for the moment). There is actually a coup d'etat in the country, and what it will entail - only God (Allah) knows. So far, there have been no complaints from tourists who vacationed at resorts during armed conflicts. On the contrary, when tour operators tried to forcibly take out tourists, they resisted fiercely, because everything was paid for.
At the resorts, food may be worsened.
If you decide to go, then try not to leave the hotel and not go on excursions.
In any case, the decision is made by you and your loved ones.
аватар Mirimma
I looked and think - why not like the advice to get information from the source? Below is information from tourists who were there - like it.
Or is it *spiteful*? Actually I don't care + or -
аватар lsklsk
Mirimma, I'm sorry, but you have no experience of visiting other countries yet (and tourists know this from your account and the questions you asked). Therefore, they put minuses. We all once FIRST TIME went abroad. I hope you too will soon become an experienced tourist.
аватар Mirimma
KiskaMary, and what is the connection between whether a person was abroad, his experience as a tourist (and tourism is different) and the answer to an everyday question - whether to go to a country in which ... I will not tell you how it is more convenient to go from X street to street U. Yes, and if someone says to the questioner - * go * - no matter how experienced he may be, because a person will not take responsibility, as well as saying * no * is impossible. A person MUST decide for himself, no one will decide for him. And you can help him only by providing information, as objective as possible.
аватар lsklsk
I recommend that you only listen to the advice of experienced tourists for now, and not give advice yourself. To give, as you say, "everyday advice" - again, experience is needed, especially since it concerns location in another country. You see a picture of Egypt or Turkey only on TV or from a monitor screen, but you have never been there, you do not know the mentality and traditions of the inhabitants of other countries. It's like telling a person how to drive a car, but at the same time never put him behind the wheel. How much can you tell about driving a car to other people. And, probably, you think that since there is a war there, it’s absolutely impossible to go. (I made this conclusion based on your answer) Income from tourism in Yegi is one of the components of GDP, therefore are friendly. No one will deprive himself of a piece of bread.
As for the question "to go or not?" then we, tourists, can only recommend something - the decision will be made by the questioner on his own.
аватар Mirimma
KiskaMary, well, I'm saying - everyone makes his own conclusions and it does not depend on WHAT he read. I rested with my daughters in Abkhazia during their last conflict with Georgia in 2008. On TV they showed HORROR, terrorist attacks, etc. - the situation there is favorable, perhaps better than even this year.
аватар lsklsk
Abkhazia is not a country of mass tourism. The tourist infrastructure is almost at zero. (I was there four times). Shelled Gagra, destroyed houses. Half-empty sanatoriums and rest houses. And to compare Abkhazia (almost not recognized by anyone) with Turkey and Egypt is somewhat inappropriate.
аватар Mirimma
KiskaMary, I tried to compare Abkhazia with Turkey and Egypt - as objects of tourism ??? When? Right in this top? I agree with you on most points *Abkhazia is not a country of mass tourism. The tourist infrastructure is almost at zero. (I was there four times). Shelled Gagra, destroyed houses. Half-empty sanatoriums and rest houses. * - but where did I say what I compare * And comparing Abkhazia (almost not recognized by anyone) with Turkey and Egypt is somewhat inappropriate. *?
It was about the time of the conflict with Georgia.
If you are interested in talking to someone about Abkhazia, then squeak in a personal message - the top is not about that.
аватар lsklsk
So you started writing about Abkhazia!!!! And top in EGYPT! Give personal examples from Egypt (this is not their first tangle). In Hurghada, I saw how municipal buildings are guarded by heavy equipment, the sight of which makes you feel somehow uncomfortable. But in the resort area everything is calm.
аватар lsklsk
Mirimma, let's end the "useless" chatter. Drive a little, see something, gain experience and then join us as an experienced tourist. If I were you, I would now read a lot of reviews, advice, and, like a sponge, absorb it all. It is necessary to theoretically prepare for future trips. It's good that there is such a site where you can get sensible advice from an experienced tourist. When we traveled for the first time, nothing like this existed, and not everyone had the Internet, and few people were in Turkey and Egypt, there was no one to ask for advice. And you can say you're lucky.
Sorry, but it's too early for you to give advice yourself.
аватар Mirimma
No need to be angry - behave more tolerantly. And others don’t need it, especially if they don’t ask for advice on what to do (and then they won’t tell you exactly where to go). I don’t know when you first went to Turkey and when the Internet became available to you, just as you don’t know ANYTHING about me.
But doubting whether to go or not and after reading your posts - I would say - let's go to another place - these are the posts of a travel agency employee who wants to sell the tour and earn money, but in fact the tourists themselves are not interesting to him. IMHO, but such an opinion has developed.
All peace and tranquility.
аватар lsklsk
Yeah, Mirimma is a tough case. Live for almost half a century, and then do not leave the destroyed Abkhazia and stick it into the forum on Egypt. Well, someone has not eaten anything sweeter than carrots. You are offended by the fact that people have been to many places, seen a lot, can draw some conclusions, tell something, but you have not. So you only have yourself to blame. Your last review is very funny and naive: ("I would say - let's go to another place") - so go to Abkhazia. We all understood that you liked it very much.
аватар Mirimma
Bravo - how do you talk to people. No text analysis skills at all. Well, either the language is not native or they taught so badly. You are the only one who understands the text so distorted. And what I do, I myself will decide, like everyone else. Whether to go to Europe or to Kamchatka. And I won't ask you. Stop being rude.
аватар Zlata28
young ladies, maybe this .. that .. world-friendship-chewing gum, huh?
аватар Starling
Everyone must decide. I went, I go and I will go. I will refrain from going to Cairo for now, but to Sharm for a sweet soul.
аватар lsklsk
With Mirimma, WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN GOING BEYOND ABKHAZIA, but at the same time gives strange and naive advice to experienced tourists, it makes no sense to talk about foreign resorts. I (and not only me) prefer to consult in tourist matters with people who have a fairly rich experience of visiting other countries.
аватар yltra
KiskaMary is right, a person who has been to Egypt can give much more useful information and advice .... but in Abkhazia, for example, I would love to listen to mirimma ... I myself have never been there, it would be very curious to know what and how it is ... .
аватар lsklsk
yltra, it would be nice to understand this Mirimme. I myself was in Abkhazia 4 times (2 times in the village of Gantiadi), Gagra - 1 time, Pitsunda - 1 time. I can tell you a lot of interesting things about excursions, beautiful places, but not on this branch.
Now Abkhazia is in decline. After foreign resorts, only extreme sportsmen can go to Abkhazia.
аватар melusga
KiskaMar, were you in Abkhazia during the Soviet era? Well, once when you went there was a heyday, and now it's a decline. You have such categorical conclusions and very often on the verge of and beyond the foul. I know a married couple after 5-6 years of Turkey and so on returned to Abkhazia (and they rest 2-3 times a year) and so on trifles - pensioners - time allows. Well, they don't look extreme.
аватар lsklsk
I was twice under the Union and twice after the collapse of the USSR, and therefore I can compare. What I saw during the military lull shocked me - where did we get?! Broken windows, shelled houses, empty sanatoriums, neglected Gagra embankment. Perhaps the pensioners who are mentioned in the previous review have always rested in Abkhazia and they are comfortable there. Tastes could not be discussed. But once you can still visit there - the nature is painfully beautiful (excursions to Lake Ritsu, New Athos caves, waterfalls).
аватар melusga
And why did you go to them for the 2nd time? It's bad and broken windows. Moreover, you were there in prosperous times and saw nature.
It's just that many of your phrases are one to one (well, or a variation), which I have already heard in travel agencies. And pensioners rested in many places and there is something new every year, but apparently Abkhazia is what is now closer to their souls and are ready to endure the lack of service.
аватар melusga
Oh, and we flooded the question completely. Forgive the author.
аватар Starling
Girls, stop it! Let's talk about Egypt. ))) Ida for the New Year)))
аватар melusga
No, it's scary on New Year's Eve. Yes, and better at home with a Christmas tree, maybe there will be snow. And in Egypt in the summer.
аватар Starling
summer in egypt perversion. Well, this is IMHO of course))) and I will go at the same time to mark the DR with my husband. By the way, why is it scary?
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