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we fly to charm 10 we don't want to fly because of sharks
we fly to charm 10 we don’t want to fly anymore, but the tour company threatens with a fine of 50% of the cost of the tour, they save their profits, and the prosecutor’s office will help us in the jaws of the shark or we are powerless asked to change the tour in a taboo also refusal and sanctions
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аватар 57888
Does the company protect its profits? Don't you think that a booked hotel room is not so easy to resell in 4 days, just like air tickets? That's what the fines that the hotel exposes are taken for! And the shark is, excuse me, force majeure! Fly, relax, swim at least in the pool, enjoy your vacation. It is better to rest than to lose money. After all, no one knew that a shark would appear!
аватар j5jjj
thank you very much in the bleach, I can swim at home, and the shark and the life of my loved ones is far from force majeure, I think that we need to raise the issue of greater responsibility of companies and not row profits with our blood
аватар Crusader
My wife and I are flying on the 8th. There was no vacation for a long time, so the news about the sharks was somewhat upset, but not critical - for us, the main thing is to relax, and this is quite possible even taking into account the closed beach.
In fact, it depends on you - whether you will be upset or get together and use the days for rest.
аватар 57888
Well, in this case, lose money, because no one will return all the money to you, only with a fine of 50% or more, depending on the refusal.
аватар tigr1945
Now in a charm at Nesco Joyce. Swimming in the pool is quite cold. Although the sun bakes strongly, we "swim" under the shower on the beach. Vosyu is catching a shark. How do you want to know? Here everyone just tied the bait to the buoys right next to the hotel. It seems to us that even more attracts sharks.
аватар koroshchenko
Read the contract with the travel agency, all the conditions and penalties are spelled out there. You signed it and I think the prosecutor's office will not help here. You know our state: "the salvation of the drowning is the work of the drowning themselves." And the main thing for agencies is to sell the tour, many agents on the same site write that in
Tourists themselves are to blame for shark attacks. I think if the situation cannot be changed, you need to change your attitude towards it. Try to have a good rest.
аватар chefmate
Hello Joyceans. They, freaks, promised from 01.12. heat the water in the pool. We left on 02.12. In my opinion, should the hotel be changed in Dessol Nesco Sharks 1 and 2
аватар HotLine
The tour company does not threaten anyone with anything. The entire cancellation procedure is described in the contract. She cannot cancel the tour without penalties for her from the operator.
Do you think this is unfair? Take it to court. Your right. There they will explain to you that in the signed contract both parties acquire both rights and RESPONSIBILITIES.
Next time, insure yourself against travel restrictions, including cases of shark attacks, terrorist attacks, volcanic eruptions, etc.
It is your right.
Your life and health is in danger at any time and in any place. Take care of yourself.
аватар yfnf4
But what about excursions? Or have you already been there?
аватар babintseva176
I want to object to those who advise swimming in the pool: it is better NOT TO !!! Water in Egypt is worth its weight in GOLD! And if you do not recommend brushing your teeth with it, then you can imagine how much chemical muck in the pools !!! Even in expensive hotels (although they say that they only disinfect with ozone), they cannot do without a huge amount of chemicals! I myself saw how, after sunset, a hotel employee (Sunrise Island View, not the cheapest 5 *, by the way) scattered handfuls of white powder like bleach into the pool from a bucket, and if it is dissolved in water and then poured into the pool, no one notices at all . And you think you're getting better? Yes, even next to the pool is harmful! The best thing is the sea, and if you can’t fully swim in it, then sunbathe on the shore, breathe the sea air, lie down on the sand (and it is everywhere) at the very edge of the water (rescuers do not scold you for this) and let the waves caress you. It's really helpful.
аватар Anetka-gan
maybe it's time to combine all these hysterical topics into one??? each topic is a duplicate of a new one. people don't even try to respect others, they just sow panic.
you SIGNED a contract. you MUST read it. 50% is still good. usually 100% lose! if you don't want to go, don't go. lose money. If you don't want to lose, go!!
аватар alexfabr19
babintseva176: I have been to Egypt 6 times over the past 4 years. Autumn and winter. And every time at least once, but plunged into the pool. There is no more chemical muck there than in any swimming pool we have. And to live in general is harmful. Life leads to death! :)
аватар babintseva176
Dear alexfabr19 and Anetka-gan! Safety is a personal matter for everyone. Want to get poisoned - please! Want to be a crippled shark - also please! And you can think as much as you like that this does not concern you. Only most people are friends with their heads and absolutely rightfully want to be sure of their own and their children's safety! And as for the pools, you are right and there is enough muck in our pools (as a doctor I answer you), but not everyone thinks about it. I have been visiting Egypt regularly for over 10 years. I love the Red Sea and snorkeling. Have a nice and safe holiday to all.
аватар Anetka-gan
babintseva176 how does security relate to the cancellation of tours and the creation of the same hysterical topics??
You should always think about safety, even leaving your home.
аватар babintseva176
Dear Anetka-gan. You should at least delve into what is at stake, otherwise you are dangling through all the links both on business and without business ... I remind you that initially people asked about canceling the tour precisely because "they don't want to fall into the jaws of a shark" and so on as the beach is closed "...swimming in bleach". Read carefully and maybe you will understand where the safety is.
аватар Anetka-gan
before booking the tour, didn't people know there were sharks there? or relied on maybe?? here is the question "what does security have to do with it" if no one thought about it before ???
аватар chefmate
But I didn't know. Or rather, he knew that there was, but that they attacked people 10 meters from the coast, as in Australia or Florida, he did not know. And travel agents and tour operators in the hotel did not warn. Even when his wife told about the attack, he did not believe her. He knew that neither corals nor any living creatures could be touched, but he did not know that sharks were walking along the beach, as in the movie "Jaws". It's a DUTY!!! tour operators to warn people. And after our attack, in Vaives on 30.11., did anyone in "Tirana" warn the tourists?
аватар Anetka-gan
chefmate sharks have swum near the shore before. I saw it myself. and the forum even has a separate topic with videos and photos.
and TO - they themselves are frightened, and a little bit of an emergency - they are lost. always like this. they just live in another dimension...
аватар chefmate
So it is necessary to drive such TOs in the neck. And then at the meeting on arrival I only heard: Excursion ..., excursion ..., excursion ..., fine ..., fine ..., fine .... I didn’t remember anything else. Yes, they didn't say anything at all. Oh, no, they said one good thing, that they would not take off our bracelets until we boarded the bus to the airport. And my managers didn’t even take off in front of the bus. After all, I spoke to them in Arabic for the most part.
Eh-eh-eh. Back there.
аватар Anetka-gan
chefmate, I apologize, I didn’t put it that way, not the TO itself, but the representative of the TO, i.e. GUIDE. and most of the guides there are not worth the RFP they are paid. especially if our compatriots. rudeness can be expected from them. locals in most cases (but not always of course) value their place.
аватар chefmate
So I’m talking about our (Russians), from Pegasus, and I’m talking. The whole hotel, that is, both hotels, Pegasus bought. But I still liked it very much, if not for this creature. Well, even if the pool was heated, it would be great in general. And I didn't talk to the guides. They didn't make any sense. The Arabs themselves told me everything and suggested it. Learn languages ​​gentlemen.
аватар PlyusheMonstr
dear, j5jjj
You understand that it is impossible to return a purchased ticket without certain fines, and it is also not so easy to refuse an ALREADY BUYED number without penalties
(I believe that you, as the head of the family, took care of the rest of your loved ones in advance)
every day the penalties increase
and Egypt did not declare a state of emergency and, therefore, it is not going to pay any compensation to the victims (i.e. those who lost the SEA as part of their vacation)
Therefore, I advise you to do one of the following images:
- refuse NOW to return at least half of the funds spent
- rethink your attitude to the current situation and go to the sea TO RELAX (after all, you are going not only to swim in the sea - you are going to change the situation, not to worry about anything, have a good time with your family, forget about work at least for a while)
have fun!
аватар HotLine
And who should warn people who book hotels and flights on their own? Here, non-lovers of TO and TA advise everyone to organize their own vacation on their own.
аватар Anetka-gan
HotLine as a representative of the "non-lovers of TO and TA" I will say that it makes no sense to book a hotel in Egypt =) It's cheaper to take a package. and if we book it, then it’s somewhere in Alexandria, Cairo, etc.
аватар HotLine
I can give you a bunch of contrary advice from one of our Pachok experts on this.
But it's not about Egypt. It's a matter of principle.
There are no sharks in Thailand and prices? Who should notify when making a self-booking?
аватар koroshchenko
If people take risks and go on their own, then they take full responsibility for their vacation. If people prefer to use the services of TO and TA (of course, and paying a higher price for the tour in most tourist destinations), then information about the country, climate, hotel and watered., Social. etc. situation from the above TA is entitled to receive in full. By the way, in most agreements between a tourist and TA, this is spelled out in the "Rights of a tourist" section. I think to warn the tourist - this is not only prof. the duty of an agent, but also just a human attitude towards them.
аватар babintseva176
And we were supposed to fly on December 25 of this year. in Naamau ... Last year at the Sunrise Hotel (near Savoy) on December 19 there was a case of a shark attack, as the famous papa74 writes and shows, only then this shark severely tore a man’s leg and all this happened before my eyes. So so I spat on everything and rebooked the hotel on Taboo, by the way, without any problems, from Tez Tour. Well, of these sharks ... It's better to ride the bus for 3 extra hours, so there is the SEA !!!
аватар HotLine
to koroshchenko. They wrote to you - a package tour is cheaper. And you draw conclusions from the premise "by paying a higher price for the tour."
Concerning rights and obligations. Look at the contract and the law. There is mandatory information, and there is information provided at the request of the tourist.
Of the mandatory on our topic is only medical warnings.
I imagine this conversation in TA with a newly arrived tourist. "We officially warn you - sharks bite, stingrays strike, jellyfish sting, hedgehogs prick, you can't breathe underwater and with numbers, dates and videos." Even legislators understand that this is simply unrealistic. If not, it's stupid.
Ask and you will be answered.
I remember the spring raids after the volcanic eruption and flight transfers. Who is guilty? Daughter-in-law (TA and TO)
аватар 57888
:)
аватар PlyusheMonstr
+1 hotline
and the story should begin with the words6 "Egypt, the official name of the Arab Republic of Egypt is a state in northeastern Africa and on the Sinai Peninsula.
It borders with Israel, the Palestinian National Authority (Gaza), Sudan and Libya. In the north, the territory is washed by the waters of the Mediterranean, in the east - by the Red Seas. Both seas are connected by means of an artificially constructed Suez Canal. "etc. for half an hour ....))))))))))))))))))
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