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I wanted to ask those who flew 4 * and 5 * stars on Fortuna. Where did they get? Really get into the norm. hotel or settled in the cheapest?
I wanted to ask those who flew 4 * and 5 * stars on Fortuna. Where did they get? Really get into the norm. hotel or settled in the cheapest?
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Choose a hotel that is close in price to your tour operator - you will most likely be settled there.
Consider accommodation - standard room or other, food, etc.
Most often, this is a way to sell hotels that no one will go to voluntarily.))))
There are exceptions, but rarely. I myself went to Marsa Alam according to fortune NV, I succeeded according to this scheme
even get into the hotel you wanted to.
Consider accommodation - standard room or other, food, etc.
Most often, this is a way to sell hotels that no one will go to voluntarily.))))
There are exceptions, but rarely. I myself went to Marsa Alam according to fortune NV, I succeeded according to this scheme
even get into the hotel you wanted to.
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answered 3 years ago
Fortuna 5* is the first 2-3 cheapest 5* category hotels offered on tours with TO and similarly with Fortuna 4*
In 99% of cases, check into the cheapest hotel
In 99% of cases, check into the cheapest hotel
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answered 3 years ago
sometimes lucky. this is how we got to the Royal Grand for the 2nd time (the first time we went ourselves). and in Turkey 2 times to good places
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answered 3 years ago
In Fortune several times all came across good hotels))) LOL
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answered 3 years ago
Thank you all for your answers :) so there is still a chance to get into not the worst
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answered 3 years ago
Interestingly, are there people who themselves, by fortune, ended up in a bad hotel? I didn’t go myself, but my acquaintances went several times and always say that they get into good ones. And here those who actually traveled write about it. Those who say that 99% will be the cheapest do not write about personal experience, but, as it were, "in general"
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answered 3 years ago
“they don’t write about personal experience, but, as it were,“ in general ”- I personally bought Fortuna in Turkey only because of air tickets, the tour was much cheaper than buying plane tickets. Naturally, they did not live in these hotels, but I know which hotels.
This year, July 2021, just on holiday, my neighbor friends bought Fortuna 4 * TO Alliance in Bodrum. We got to Middle Town Beach 4 *, when I read the reviews I thought that they would have to carry food every day. But they were lucky that they got to the bayram and everything was fine with the food. When the bayram ended and the normal food ended. The hotel is not bad, but not good.
These same friends often fly and buy the cheapest tours and Fortuna tours (live in these hotels). They also got to Fortuna in the Belkon Hotel 4 * where the hotel beach is 2 km away and the hotel guests fight for french fries, naturally they serve soy meat that is dressed up as chicken
This year, July 2021, just on holiday, my neighbor friends bought Fortuna 4 * TO Alliance in Bodrum. We got to Middle Town Beach 4 *, when I read the reviews I thought that they would have to carry food every day. But they were lucky that they got to the bayram and everything was fine with the food. When the bayram ended and the normal food ended. The hotel is not bad, but not good.
These same friends often fly and buy the cheapest tours and Fortuna tours (live in these hotels). They also got to Fortuna in the Belkon Hotel 4 * where the hotel beach is 2 km away and the hotel guests fight for french fries, naturally they serve soy meat that is dressed up as chicken
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answered 3 years ago
objectively, without miracles Fortuna / Roulette .. from any TO, this is just a marketing ploy to sell hotels that are not popular with tourists.
In Egypt, keep in mind that the hotels of Sharm and Hurghada are loaded to capacity now, and there are a lot of complaints about overbookings in more or less normal hotels, for good hotels (not Rixos and Steigenberger) the price has skyrocketed.
Of course, you can fantasize and create illusions that after paying $700 for a roulette at 5 * for 2 in Sharm, you can settle in a normal hotel like Domina Aquamarine where the price starts from $1000 or a good Sentido where the price starts from $2000
Friends who travel around Fortuna never build illusions, they know what kind of hotels it will be, they just find + their rest, that there will still be sea and sun, that they will not remain hungry, that there will be a room where to spend the night.
And 3 times according to Fortune to get into good hotels is the same as a popular Ukrainian politician won the lottery 3 times in one year)))
In Egypt, keep in mind that the hotels of Sharm and Hurghada are loaded to capacity now, and there are a lot of complaints about overbookings in more or less normal hotels, for good hotels (not Rixos and Steigenberger) the price has skyrocketed.
Of course, you can fantasize and create illusions that after paying $700 for a roulette at 5 * for 2 in Sharm, you can settle in a normal hotel like Domina Aquamarine where the price starts from $1000 or a good Sentido where the price starts from $2000
Friends who travel around Fortuna never build illusions, they know what kind of hotels it will be, they just find + their rest, that there will still be sea and sun, that they will not remain hungry, that there will be a room where to spend the night.
And 3 times according to Fortune to get into good hotels is the same as a popular Ukrainian politician won the lottery 3 times in one year)))
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answered 3 years ago
Vika284,
To be honest, I'd rather win the lottery))).
I think that Royal Grand, Concordia Celes and Zen Phaselis are good options ... but the feeling that the limit has been exhausted)))
To be honest, I'd rather win the lottery))).
I think that Royal Grand, Concordia Celes and Zen Phaselis are good options ... but the feeling that the limit has been exhausted)))
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answered 3 years ago
YaSlavnaYa and my hotels associated with fortune were very good options for Macakizi Bodrum, Lujo and Biblos Resort Alacati))))
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answered 3 years ago
"You can, of course, fantasize and create illusions that after paying $700 for a 5* roulette for 2 in Sharm, you can settle in a normal hotel like Domina Aquamarine where the price starts from $1000 or a good Sentido where the price starts from $2000"
No, no, it's certainly not about that. No need to distort.
It’s just that I haven’t heard people regret (and you practically confirm this with the example of your friends) that they flew along Fortuna. The end has always justified the means. When we say that Fortune is a lottery, then in the lottery, as a rule, the majority loses. Here, it seems, I have not met any obviously disappointed people. But there is a stubborn opinion (among those who do not use it) that this is a swindler. That's why he asked if there were those among the critics who personally lost from such a choice.
I repeat, I myself have never used it, and therefore I want to get information from those who used it personally and were disappointed.
No, no, it's certainly not about that. No need to distort.
It’s just that I haven’t heard people regret (and you practically confirm this with the example of your friends) that they flew along Fortuna. The end has always justified the means. When we say that Fortune is a lottery, then in the lottery, as a rule, the majority loses. Here, it seems, I have not met any obviously disappointed people. But there is a stubborn opinion (among those who do not use it) that this is a swindler. That's why he asked if there were those among the critics who personally lost from such a choice.
I repeat, I myself have never used it, and therefore I want to get information from those who used it personally and were disappointed.
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answered 3 years ago
Quinto,
a little wrong. this is not a scammer. just when a person flies on fortune-roulette-bingo, and asks if he will get into a good hotel, adequate people advise to watch the cheapest at the moment in this region with this stardom ... so that later it would not be excruciatingly painful for dreams that did not come true
for example, I don’t want to fly to Sharm according to fortune 5, since neither Continental nor Kiroshir attracts me now even for ridiculous money ... and I don’t want to at 4, since Marina or Faraana are almost in the foot ... well, something like this
a little wrong. this is not a scammer. just when a person flies on fortune-roulette-bingo, and asks if he will get into a good hotel, adequate people advise to watch the cheapest at the moment in this region with this stardom ... so that later it would not be excruciatingly painful for dreams that did not come true
for example, I don’t want to fly to Sharm according to fortune 5, since neither Continental nor Kiroshir attracts me now even for ridiculous money ... and I don’t want to at 4, since Marina or Faraana are almost in the foot ... well, something like this
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answered 3 years ago
“then the majority usually loses in the lottery” - in Fortuna from TO there is no classic lottery among all hotels, for example 5 *, there the TO alone determines the hotel.
On the topic of Black Fridays and Cyber Mondays in Ukraine and Russia, if you believe that our stores really give significant discounts, then you can get to Rixos from Fortuna from TO.
Fortune from TO is a marketing move by TO to sell tours to super budget economy hotels with which TO contracts are concluded. It is difficult to sell tours to problem hotels, and the clauses of the contract must be fulfilled, so Fortune and Roulette are invented
On the topic of Black Fridays and Cyber Mondays in Ukraine and Russia, if you believe that our stores really give significant discounts, then you can get to Rixos from Fortuna from TO.
Fortune from TO is a marketing move by TO to sell tours to super budget economy hotels with which TO contracts are concluded. It is difficult to sell tours to problem hotels, and the clauses of the contract must be fulfilled, so Fortune and Roulette are invented
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answered 3 years ago
“I don’t want to go to 4, because Marina or Faraana” Club El Faraana 4 * with a luxurious location, with a reef and sandy entry will be on Fortuna from TO))) this is from the same series what to expect that on Fortuna 5 * there will be Baron and Rixos
For reference Fortuna 4* in Sharm for the next 7 nights for 2 from $505
Club El Faraana $1074 and Marina Sharm from $1174 - do you really think that THEN will give you a gift over $500?!
For reference Fortuna 4* in Sharm for the next 7 nights for 2 from $505
Club El Faraana $1074 and Marina Sharm from $1174 - do you really think that THEN will give you a gift over $500?!
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answered 3 years ago
Fortuna 5* Charm for 2 for 7 nights from $700
Continental Plaza Beach Resort from $888 and Xperience Kirosieiz Premier from $818
The nearest 5* hotels in Sharm at a price of $700 are II Mercato, Sharm Plaza, Amwaj, Siva Sharm - these hotels will be on Fortune/Roulette
The nearest 4* hotels at a price of $500 are Sharm Bride, Sharming Inn, Panorama Naama Hieght, Palma di Sharm - these will be 4* roulette
Continental Plaza Beach Resort from $888 and Xperience Kirosieiz Premier from $818
The nearest 5* hotels in Sharm at a price of $700 are II Mercato, Sharm Plaza, Amwaj, Siva Sharm - these hotels will be on Fortune/Roulette
The nearest 4* hotels at a price of $500 are Sharm Bride, Sharming Inn, Panorama Naama Hieght, Palma di Sharm - these will be 4* roulette
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answered 3 years ago
Vika284, ===Do you really think that===
if it was written to me, then of course I don’t believe in Pharaoh by fortune - that’s exactly what I had in mind.
about the continental and kyroshira: a friend 2 times by fortune got into a kyroshir (the one near Hollywood). and in the roulette continental people rested at the same time as us (we were on a regular ticket). so that happened
if it was written to me, then of course I don’t believe in Pharaoh by fortune - that’s exactly what I had in mind.
about the continental and kyroshira: a friend 2 times by fortune got into a kyroshir (the one near Hollywood). and in the roulette continental people rested at the same time as us (we were on a regular ticket). so that happened
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answered 3 years ago
"a little bit wrong. it's not a swindler. it's just when a person flies on fortune-roulette-bingo and asks if he will get into a good hotel, adequate people advise to watch the cheapest at the moment in this region with this stardom... so that later it was not excruciatingly painful for dreams that did not come true"
Well, it's a bit different here :)
A person, as I understand it, just wants to get information on what you can count on in Fortune from those who actually flew and where he ended up. He will take the decision and the risks himself. In your answer, you are trying to "incite" these risks, so that later "it would not be excruciatingly painful for dreams" :) That is, instead of information, you talk about risks that, in principle, are already clear to everyone.
I am also interested in this topic, but not from the point of view of other people's fears (we have enough of our own :D), but from the point of view of dry information about PERSONAL bad experience.
Well, it's a bit different here :)
A person, as I understand it, just wants to get information on what you can count on in Fortune from those who actually flew and where he ended up. He will take the decision and the risks himself. In your answer, you are trying to "incite" these risks, so that later "it would not be excruciatingly painful for dreams" :) That is, instead of information, you talk about risks that, in principle, are already clear to everyone.
I am also interested in this topic, but not from the point of view of other people's fears (we have enough of our own :D), but from the point of view of dry information about PERSONAL bad experience.
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answered 3 years ago
Kwinto, I'm not trying to incite, I write objectively without fantasizing about a good hotel. This is dry information, not dreams.
But if you want to live in fantasies and dreams that by paying $ 700 you will get at least to Sentido or Iberotel Palace
I repeat that I had the experience of buying Fortuna hotels in Turkey, I know that these are g ... hotels. Why should TO provide Egypt with Rixos for Fortuna.
But if you want to live in fantasies and dreams that by paying $ 700 you will get at least to Sentido or Iberotel Palace
I repeat that I had the experience of buying Fortuna hotels in Turkey, I know that these are g ... hotels. Why should TO provide Egypt with Rixos for Fortuna.
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answered 3 years ago
“about the continental and kyroshira: ..…” I also got some Fortuna))) in Rixos Sharm El Sheikh for Christmas and Old New Year, so it happened)))
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answered 3 years ago
Kwinto , === In your answer, you are trying to "set up" these risks ===
I freaked out, writing that I got into the Royal Grand. The hotel was really terrible...
I freaked out, writing that I got into the Royal Grand. The hotel was really terrible...
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answered 3 years ago
“It’s just that I haven’t heard people regret (and you practically confirm this with the example of your friends) that they flew along Fortuna. I didn’t see anyone obviously disappointed. But there is a stubborn opinion (among those who don’t use it) that it’s a swindler. That’s why I asked if there are those among the critics who personally lost from such a choice."
Kwinto, it's all about psychology. If a person bought a cheap tour and ended up in a good hotel, he will be happy to tell everyone about it. At the same time, if a bad hotel fell out, he does not want to admit that he flew in. It's like a lottery: if you win, you'll be happy and proud to talk about it, but if you lose, you'll keep quiet.
Elementary human psychology.
Kwinto, it's all about psychology. If a person bought a cheap tour and ended up in a good hotel, he will be happy to tell everyone about it. At the same time, if a bad hotel fell out, he does not want to admit that he flew in. It's like a lottery: if you win, you'll be happy and proud to talk about it, but if you lose, you'll keep quiet.
Elementary human psychology.
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answered 3 years ago
Andrey111 great respect for you, but this is not true "that the Fortune lottery, then in the lottery, as a rule, the majority loses." It would be a lottery if TO put a list of Fortuna all hotels of a certain category of stars from Four Seasons 5 * to Amwaj Oyoun Hotel 5 *, and so TO personally determines which of the cheapest and not popular hotels will be on Fortuna / Roulette. It's a lottery of the worst hotels to hit less than the worst.
In any case, TO win and the tourist wins, a tourist who does not build illusions and does not fantasize that there will be a good hotel, and it is tuned that there will be sun and sea, that there will be a hotel, there will be food and hungry even in the saddest 3 * tourists did not stay, which plane tickets are paid, that there is a transfer and there is insurance. Even if the gain (savings) of a tourist from Fortuna is $ 20-30, then this money can be spent on an excursion or souvenirs, or if it’s completely sad, a 1-liter hotel Jack Daniels)))
In any case, TO win and the tourist wins, a tourist who does not build illusions and does not fantasize that there will be a good hotel, and it is tuned that there will be sun and sea, that there will be a hotel, there will be food and hungry even in the saddest 3 * tourists did not stay, which plane tickets are paid, that there is a transfer and there is insurance. Even if the gain (savings) of a tourist from Fortuna is $ 20-30, then this money can be spent on an excursion or souvenirs, or if it’s completely sad, a 1-liter hotel Jack Daniels)))
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answered 3 years ago
YaSlavnaYa know Royal Grand Sharm well, it's definitely not a terrible hotel, it was a very normal hotel, very normal 5 * as comparable to Reef Oasis Beach Resort. This hotel, when it was opened, was always recommended by almost all Sharm experts.
All reviews before the hotel closed on review sites are mostly positive.
I remember not just great reviews, but a whole story about this hotel from a long-time expert of Turpravda
https://www.turpravda.ua/eg/sharm_el_sheyh/blog-158220.html
Knowing all the advantages of this hotel and the price of tours for which this one was sold and popularity, of course I believe that you YaSlavnaYa got to Fortuna in Royal Grand Sharm, but then you certainly believe me that we got to Fortuna in Rixos Sharm El Sheikh
All reviews before the hotel closed on review sites are mostly positive.
I remember not just great reviews, but a whole story about this hotel from a long-time expert of Turpravda
https://www.turpravda.ua/eg/sharm_el_sheyh/blog-158220.html
Knowing all the advantages of this hotel and the price of tours for which this one was sold and popularity, of course I believe that you YaSlavnaYa got to Fortuna in Royal Grand Sharm, but then you certainly believe me that we got to Fortuna in Rixos Sharm El Sheikh
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answered 3 years ago
Vika284 "But if you want to live in fantasies and dreams that by paying $ 700 you will get at least to Sentido or Iberotel Palace"
You are overreacting again.
You again decided for me what exactly I want. Although my question sounded absolutely specific. And with enthusiasm you continue to answer not the question that I asked, but the one that is convenient for you. :)
You are overreacting again.
You again decided for me what exactly I want. Although my question sounded absolutely specific. And with enthusiasm you continue to answer not the question that I asked, but the one that is convenient for you. :)
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answered 3 years ago
YaSlavnaYa
Yes, I see that you are just not one of those who consider this kind of "99% losing". My answer was rather to the statement "adequate people advise to watch the cheapest ... so that later it would not be excruciatingly painful for dreams that did not come true." The last sentence expresses exactly what I disagree with. Perhaps you brought it not about yourself, but as an illustration of why people respond this way. So sorry if I offended you. I just think it's better to get an honest concrete answer than a value judgment.
Yes, I see that you are just not one of those who consider this kind of "99% losing". My answer was rather to the statement "adequate people advise to watch the cheapest ... so that later it would not be excruciatingly painful for dreams that did not come true." The last sentence expresses exactly what I disagree with. Perhaps you brought it not about yourself, but as an illustration of why people respond this way. So sorry if I offended you. I just think it's better to get an honest concrete answer than a value judgment.
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answered 3 years ago
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"Kwinto, it's all about psychology. If a person bought a cheap tour and ended up in a good hotel, he will be happy to tell everyone about it. At the same time, if a bad hotel falls out, he does not want to admit that he flew in. It's like a lottery: if you win, you will be happy and proud to talk about it, but if you lose, you will keep quiet"
So here it's the other way around. It seems like they get into a good one, but at the same time they write that "TO always chooses from the worst" and "In 99% of cases, settle in the cheapest hotel." :)
Maybe I don’t understand something in psychology, but thank God I understand mathematics well. For me, 99% of this person went 100 times, got into Rixos 1 time, all the rest got into trouble 99 times :) Hedgehogs pricked, cried, but climbed on a cactus. :)
For me, for example, a response like this would be very valuable: we went 7 times, 2 times we were lucky and ended up in a hotel above the paid level, 2 times about fifty-fifty and 3 more times worse than expected. A specific answer to a specific question. Everything. And here is the cry of Yaroslavna.
"Kwinto, it's all about psychology. If a person bought a cheap tour and ended up in a good hotel, he will be happy to tell everyone about it. At the same time, if a bad hotel falls out, he does not want to admit that he flew in. It's like a lottery: if you win, you will be happy and proud to talk about it, but if you lose, you will keep quiet"
So here it's the other way around. It seems like they get into a good one, but at the same time they write that "TO always chooses from the worst" and "In 99% of cases, settle in the cheapest hotel." :)
Maybe I don’t understand something in psychology, but thank God I understand mathematics well. For me, 99% of this person went 100 times, got into Rixos 1 time, all the rest got into trouble 99 times :) Hedgehogs pricked, cried, but climbed on a cactus. :)
For me, for example, a response like this would be very valuable: we went 7 times, 2 times we were lucky and ended up in a hotel above the paid level, 2 times about fifty-fifty and 3 more times worse than expected. A specific answer to a specific question. Everything. And here is the cry of Yaroslavna.
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answered 3 years ago
"but thank God I'm good at math" - that's great
There is a TO that has contracts with certain hotels, there is an obligation to hotels that a certain number of tourists will buy a tour to this hotel or% of the quotas for accommodation in hotels are filled, hotels, in turn, give an additional discount to TO for booking.
And that's what "X" sees from his reports that the percentage of filling quotas for accommodation at the Sharm Plaza Hotel and Amwaj Oyoun Resort & Spa is very low, they understand that failure to comply with the terms of the contract is a fine, recalculation of the discount amount or termination of the contract. And in parallel, hotel representatives also warn about this, and say that they can sign others with TO "Y" with the same conditions.
Then TO "X" starts by all means to urgently advertise and come up with open marketing moves for the sale of illiquid hotels, such as promotional price, super offer of the month/week/day, last minute deals and closed marketing moves like Fortune/Roulette,
There is a TO that has contracts with certain hotels, there is an obligation to hotels that a certain number of tourists will buy a tour to this hotel or% of the quotas for accommodation in hotels are filled, hotels, in turn, give an additional discount to TO for booking.
And that's what "X" sees from his reports that the percentage of filling quotas for accommodation at the Sharm Plaza Hotel and Amwaj Oyoun Resort & Spa is very low, they understand that failure to comply with the terms of the contract is a fine, recalculation of the discount amount or termination of the contract. And in parallel, hotel representatives also warn about this, and say that they can sign others with TO "Y" with the same conditions.
Then TO "X" starts by all means to urgently advertise and come up with open marketing moves for the sale of illiquid hotels, such as promotional price, super offer of the month/week/day, last minute deals and closed marketing moves like Fortune/Roulette,
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answered 3 years ago
Never MOT, any MOT will put hotels on tours that sell so well at Fortune / Roulette
99% - these will be hotels from which TO and TA themselves have a headache
1% - it will also be, for example, normal 5 * but with temporary, but significant problems
Such 5 * as Sentido, Jaz, PickAlbatros, Sunrise and even more so Rixos, Steigenberger, Four Seasons hotels will never be in this "lottery".
This is for Egypt, and especially now that Egypt has been opened for Russians and all normal and good Full hotels.
According to Fortuna, now in winter it will be Amwaj Oyoun Resort - a super economy hotel located in windy Nabq
As for Turkey, the percentage of getting into a good 5 * is higher out of season and in a certain region, it is quite possible to get into a good 5 * and 4 * in Fortuna in April in the region of Bodrum, Kusadasi, Izmir, Cesme, because super economy hotels open only in May or mid-May.
99% - these will be hotels from which TO and TA themselves have a headache
1% - it will also be, for example, normal 5 * but with temporary, but significant problems
Such 5 * as Sentido, Jaz, PickAlbatros, Sunrise and even more so Rixos, Steigenberger, Four Seasons hotels will never be in this "lottery".
This is for Egypt, and especially now that Egypt has been opened for Russians and all normal and good Full hotels.
According to Fortuna, now in winter it will be Amwaj Oyoun Resort - a super economy hotel located in windy Nabq
As for Turkey, the percentage of getting into a good 5 * is higher out of season and in a certain region, it is quite possible to get into a good 5 * and 4 * in Fortuna in April in the region of Bodrum, Kusadasi, Izmir, Cesme, because super economy hotels open only in May or mid-May.
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