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The eternal question is where to take excursions - the operator is expensive at the hotel or the local
The eternal question under discussion, where to take excursions - from the operator it is expensive at the hotel or from local travel agencies with risk? I asked both on the Internet and tortured my friends, they all say 50x50, someone categorically does not recommend it from the locals, it’s better for a guarantee from the operator (we have a Tez-tour), others only take in the city from the Egyptians, but then those who end up on the bus paid on the street and those who are expensive in the hotel? What to do and what are the local reliable firms in Sharm that are hooked up to cereals? I would like to go to Israel and Jordan
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аватар Olya_777
You are right, the "eternally discussed question" .. But it is not so difficult to answer it. We ourselves recently rested in Egypt and really wanted to go to coral reefs, we took a tour from a local seller, a few dollars cheaper. But our friend from the hotel, warmly advised to abandon the tour, to go on the same from PEGAS. Yes, and our guide warned not to agree to these excursions, not to fill out forms, and even more so not to give money, because there were cases when simply no one came for tourists. It is clear that tour leader guides get something from this, but so what, safety is more important, and insurance is provided (just in case). I continue .. this seller-Aladin calls the number, and, having learned about the refusal, he began to demand money for the refusal and, most interestingly, to threaten. I went to the reception, wrote a statement, and it was removed. Then it turned out that their company bought a yacht for excursions, but it turned out to be broken, but it still goes.
There are a lot of people who want to save money, and a lot of people signed up for this excursion with a broken yacht. I don't know how they got there. Is it normal? I'm not talking about such long excursions as Israel and Jordan! You don't have to skimp on your safety.
аватар konyks
As for the guys from the street, it’s really 50 to 50. Therefore, you need to know who to trust your vacation with. If you are interested please contact me and I will share my experience.
аватар Seanam
Hmm, thanks for the site - I see you are really close friends with Safetur.
Has anyone on this forum used this company besides you? I agree with Olya_777 it can be dumb, especially if you also need to give passports for visas!
Yes, tricky question!
аватар Il2005
Passports do not need to be given, only passport data, as for me, there is http://blogs.turpravda.com/kukolnik/profile.html A science fiction writer, as you can see from the blog, read his reviews.
аватар konyks
Sorry while I left my brother logged in to my account. One computer at home. Therefore, I wrote on his behalf, we often do this.
As for the aspiration, look for reviews of trips with Ibrahim on the net. And actually what you risk, pay the money at the same time of the tour. So what's the risk?
аватар kukolnik
And I went with Saif tours. I expressed my impressions in the reviews posted on this site. Everything is very solid. Ibrahim is a great organizer. And his staff is very, very good. And the guide to Cairo, Dr. Hassan, is beyond praise. And all without cheating. You can even get a good discount.
аватар lvenok
it’s not worth the risk, even on such simple excursions as a safari, there was a case when people took a safari from the locals, on the way home their quad bike broke down, and they were the last to go. ATV stalled in the middle of the desert! it’s good that we counted the quads upon arrival! and not people, and they saw that one was missing, they returned for them only after an hour and a half! and in the desert there is no cellular communication and it has already darkened. but about such excursions as Jerusalem, Jordan, Cairo - it’s better to take it from your guide, where safety is guaranteed and everything else, but if there are really trusted people, then you can try
аватар konyks
lvenok The question is how does your hotel guide guarantee your safety, does he have an agreement with the Lord God that nothing will happen to you? My friends told me an interesting story when they forgot a person in Cairo, on a tour of a major operator. If you search the net and you will not find it. I personally saw how Teztur had a puncture, they were late for people for 1 hour, they went to bed, refused to go, they didn’t return the money, and they ran into them. But Ibrahim in disputable situations always returns the money, even if through me to Kharkov.
Because this is his name and bread. All guarantees are a bluff in order to justify the high price, which is high, because part of it goes to the hotel guide, and not to additional insurance, so he is crucifying how scary it is to take it from someone else. The only thing I agree with is simply dumb to take from the street. Enjoy your excursions and do not overpay for beautiful fairy tales.
аватар Stack
lvenok you just made me laugh. Do you think that if the tour operator sold the moto safari, then the last tourist who died out could in this case get on a camel???? :)))))) Or did a ringing mobile phone fall from the sky?
Yes, the representative of the tour operator is just an intermediary between you and the ATV garage. He doesn't go with you! And he doesn't look after you!
And in general, do not believe the horror stories about the fact that if you take a tour on the street, then your insurance ceases to be valid! Read carefully the insurance policy, it is valid throughout the host country, no matter where you are and with whom you are.
Well, when you go on your own in Sharm to Naama Bay or the Old Market, you don’t ask permission !!!
аватар Zlata28
actually this issue is solved
individually for each
If a person is a reinsurer, then it is better to contact
to the hotel guide
If savings come first, then you can take it on the street
Insurance is valid in any case
regardless of who you purchased the tour from
аватар Seanam
It is very good that there are different opinions from which the picture of the work of tour operators in Egypt on the ground with excursions, etc. becomes clear. In Montenegro, for example, what do you take from your own, what is on the street - excellent service everywhere, good drivers (they are generally virtuosos!), Buses, they also put them on some excursions to local companies, but there are no problems or deterioration in quality.
аватар Amir1
the quality of your service does not depend on the travel agency, but only on the tour operator who serves your tour. Therefore, when buying a tour, just ask who will take you there and that's it. This applies to both purchases of hotel tours and excursions within the country. Only the price depends on the travel agency. Our prices are fixed by the tour operator, and they have as much as I want, I twist as much. This also applies to hotel guides. That's why the prices are different. And on a safari there is no difference at all from whom to buy a tour. All the same, the same people will serve you there, because the park of ATVs is the same. Then why pay more?
аватар Seanam
As I understand it, corals, quad bikes, probably Mount Moses - this can be taken in principle outside the hotel, a long distance, if dumb, then it’s better at the hotel, but make sure that the prices are no higher than those that the sending tour operator gave.
аватар Zlata28
That's how we do it
if it is for example Cairo or Luxor
then we take it from the hotel guide (but we still bargain)
if it's something close
quad bike type, paradise island, transparent bottom pub
then quite suitable for shopping outside the hotel
everything is purely IMHO
аватар alexfabr19
In November last year, we took 4 excursions at once just from a street agency.
We were very worried, especially for the first time: from the Tez-tour, Koral and other operators - they had already taken everyone from the hotel, but everyone was not coming for us. They came for us later than everyone else, and as it turned out, they did the right thing, because. we traveled in a group of buses, and everyone who was taken earlier just sat on the bus and waited for us.
During all the excursions, we were with those who traveled from the hotel guides. We dined at the same restaurants, we stood together in the same queue at the border to Israel, we dined together in Cairo, we went to the pyramids together in Giza, in short - everything is the same!
Only we paid exactly 2 times less than in Tez-Tour.
So then the guys from Tez themselves asked us to write statements to Tez that they had too expensive excursions.
аватар Chief_87
How many people have so many opinions, but the fact that Tez has twice the price of excursions (I refer to alexfabr19), this is not true. Tez excursions do not differ much))
For example, diving in Ras Mohamed at Teza 65 on 63 or 62 street, is that twice??
And so on, the difference is a maximum of 5 dollars)))
At the expense of Jerusalem there was a difference of $ 15, so the safety and quality of excursions cost more than $ 5)))
My opinion))) From Tez Tour, I am delighted and I fly to Egypt only with them)))
And by the way, in Egypt, 90% of tourists are served by Tez)))
My personal opinion))
аватар Seanam
Chief_87, are you into tourism? :)
аватар Chief_87
Seanam)))
No, I'm not into tourism, I'm a tourist))
I'm on vacation abroad
I love bus tours, but Egypt lags behind in 1st place, it's cool there, better than Turkey)))
But, and Europe is not in competition)))
аватар Seanam
Chief_87, it's just that your compensation sounded like an advertising delight! :)))
аватар Chief_87
Seanam)))
My opinion))
Delight from Teza, I have no complaints about them))
Everything is perfect from the very arrival in Egypt and departure))
Once we were going and our guide Karim greeted us, I said hello to him Karim already 3 times, and a woman sat next to me and said, cool to you, and I saw my guide only once a week, and then when I arrived, and ours in I was in the hotel every day, always called and asked if everything was fine))
I just have nothing to compare with, to Egypt only with Tez))
аватар alexfabr19
Chief_87, I also consider Tez-tour the best operator. And I always fly with him. But here are the prices for excursions...
Case study: December 2008. Let's count.
In a street agency, I took the following excursions for two (me and my wife):
1. Cairo, 1 day, bus
2. Mount Moses + Monastery of St. Catherine
3. Jerusalem, bus, 1 day
Paid for everything together 400 dollars, including visas to Israel. That is $200 per person.
Now let's open the Tez-tour website:
Cairo: $75
Jerusalem: $220
Mount Moses + Monastery: $35
Total $330
I agree, not 2 times, but 1.65 times :)
but still, $110 per person savings.
For me, it is essential ... money does not fall from the sky.
аватар kukolnik
And all the same, such monopolists as Teztur and Pegasus tear three skins from tourists. Well, why, one wonders, are Jerusalem from Sharm/Taba being offered to the same Poles for $130, to Europeans for 90-95 euros (about the same 130), and to us for 190 + another $10?!! So you have to look for loopholes and well-wishers (like Saif Tours) in order to save money.
аватар Seanam
alexfabr19, and from whom did you take excursions from locals in charm, can you remember the name of the company?
Yes, it would be nice if the tour operators did not eat and reduce prices at least a little, especially now, when the exchange rate is high!
Today I watched a report on TV about the cost of tours to Egypt and Turkey - for Europeans, the cost of tours is much lower, and for CIS countries, it is an order of magnitude higher, even despite the crisis!
аватар Seanam
alexfabr19? and are you satisfied with the organization of travel in your option, transport?
аватар Seanam
kukolnik and konyks - you are just a walking advertisement for the company you advertise! :))))))
аватар Chief_87
For Cairo I paid 65, and the monastery 35))
And then how much does it cost from yours to go to Cairo, the Monastery and Jerusalem, write separately?
аватар Seanam
alexfabr19, the company on the link - did someone travel from the hotel?
аватар Seanam
just already for a bunch of excellent reviews and the chef of the tour and this company, it already seems, sorry that on the websites of local travel agencies, everyone advertises himself and leaves reviews :) but it’s true, thoughts out loud :)
аватар kukolnik
Seanam! Madame, what kind of defamation? I do not see anything shameful in once again saying thank you to the people who pleased you. With the same success, I can praise Ginza Travel, which brightened up my Turkish everyday life, acting as a great alternative to Teztour. Sometimes it's useful to look into a user's profile to avoid false accusations. I, like a true crest, childishly rejoice that I saved a penny of labor (cent), investing it with benefit. And you are too zealously defending the monopolists. Isn't it better to turn on yourself?.. Although arguing with a woman...
аватар Seanam
I’m just not defending anyone, but I’m trying to find the pros and cons here and there, and I also want not to spend too much and not get into trouble :) Do not pout, and do not argue with a woman! :))))))))))
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