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What is heard in Sharm about the catastrophe? We keep everything as usual. We are afraid to fly ... what to do?
What is heard in Sharm about the catastrophe? We keep everything as usual. We are afraid to fly ... what to do?
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аватар agent_borabora
Why is it silent? Type in Google "catastrophe over Sinai".
"To be afraid of a wolf - do not go into the forest."
There is duty free...
аватар sent2008
There is a lot of information, official statements will be made after checking all the circumstances.
I am also afraid of flying, but I fly often.... If the fear is very strong, go to a psychotherapist, it is better not to bring the situation to a state of phobia.
Duty free is good, but doctors do not recommend alcohol before the flight, because. it dehydrates the body.
It's hard to answer the question of what to do...
аватар Slav1
They say "a bomb does not fall in the same place twice".
Now security controls are higher than ever.
But if you are very, very afraid, then book a ticket and return at least part of the money.
It's better than a panic attack and a tantrum at the airport.
аватар alex45
If you are afraid to fly, then you will not reach Egypt on foot!
But a tourist was sitting next to me on the plane, he prayed all the way, we arrived on time. Maybe this will help you?
аватар Elena7019
Yes, I'm not afraid to fly. If not for the catastrophe over Sinai, even in my thoughts there would be no bad things. Tour purchased...
аватар orbittours.ru
Nothing is said about the disaster. It's just too early to draw conclusions, there is no decoding of black boxes. It's not a quick matter to consider.
Airplanes are the safest way to travel, but unfortunately, if a plane crashes, many people die at once. But no one counts how many people die in car accidents. Several times more. Here, nowhere and no one will ever give a guarantee, whether you eat by car or fly by plane. We must hope for the best.
аватар ollennka
The more you fly, the less you are afraid. As a percentage of total passenger traffic, air transport is the safest. I'm scared to drive a car. Although I'm lying, the only transport that is terrible for me is water. I'm afraid when I'm on the high seas and I can't see the shore...
аватар alex45
By the way, ollennka, I really like cruises, and when a cruise ship sank in Italy due to the fault of the captain, there was a discussion about the safety of transport on some site. Sea transport (passenger) turned out to be one of the safest. Very rarely cruise ships sink.
Of course, I do not consider a wrecked trough like the one that sank while fishing in Zatoka. All cruise ships are not older than 15 years, and this is not a period for them.
Try a cruise on some good ship, you should like it and it's not expensive.
аватар orbittours.ru
There was a record of the black box of the aircraft on the Internet. 9 minutes of horror.
аватар Vic-Grin
All the same, there was an explosion on board. The satellite picked up the flash. And in general, they write, there is a mess at the SHES airport. For a bribe, you can carry whatever you want on board. Read http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/russian-plane-crashes-in-the-sinai/satellite-shows-heat-flash -when-russian-metrojet-plane-crashed-no-n456161
аватар sent2008
Vic-Grin, I went through the link - in short misinformation, a lie. It is better to watch the Arabic channel in the original, then the information can be 100% trustworthy, and sites with the ua address are not a shock, this is a circus, and a burnt one. One phrase “Let us remind you that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, who ordered the terrorist attack, did not deign to turn to citizens in connection with the disaster. His representatives replied that the Fuhrer was on the wire. what is it worth. Putin's address on the catastrophe was broadcast by all our TV channels. The second phrase (about the Fuhrer) is generally designed for morons.
Now there are a lot of conversations, but everything is at the level of versions and conjectures. It is necessary to wait until all the information received is summarized, analyzed, and only then the conclusions will have some weight.
аватар Slav1
sent2008 millionth request not to interfere with politics + Vic-Grin gave a link to nbc news - an authoritative English-language site.
Sites-deshovok-sensational dofiga and runet and ukrnet.
For example, I am not inclined to any version. Absolutely all of them have the right to life.
There is nothing meaner and dirtier than politics. You don't have to wear rose-colored glasses.
Maybe everything, absolutely everything.
Need to draw conclusions? Oh sure! We will know the truth, after 100 years, and that is not a fact.
аватар sent2008
Slav1, the administrator removed the second replica of Vic-Grin and only the first link remained. And I indicated the quote copied from that article, at the second link. So with politics in this topic, this is not for me.
Need to draw conclusions? Oh sure! We will know the truth, after 100 years, and that is not a fact. About not a fact I agree. But there are deadlines for announcing the results of the investigation. Now there are a lot of things, I have not trusted journalists for a long time. Let's wait for the official results.
orbittours.ru, searched for records of flight 9268 recorders, but did not find it. If possible, please ask for a link.
аватар alex45
According to official data, the black boxes have not been opened to date, so there can be no records of them on the Internet. Another duck, if there is no link.
And let's not mix our addictions here. It's useless. There are facts - report.
аватар orbittours.ru
Vic Green never cheats on himself. I'm just replicas that escalate the situation, skip and do not react. A flash can be, as the first one said today, a lot of things and an explosion on board and a collision with the ground. Everything is still without evidence. We need to wait for official statements, and not the conclusions of the yellow press.
аватар Slav1
orbittours.ru
"What are the official statements"? Kagalymavia has already voiced them "outside influence" and ISIS has voiced them, also officially, in its official media.
Egypt also had its say, blocking Ural Airlines at the airport, such as "do not fly on rusty troughs" and "spoil our turnips."
The United States also officially announced that they also have information from the satellite where the explosion was detected.
WE DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH and this is obvious.
аватар Vic-Grin
There are strange people. When they warn them of danger, they say they frighten us, and when they get into shit, they complain why they didn’t warn us. And we can't get away from politics. Hence the question. Why was the bomb planted on the Russian plane? Didn't think? So it would be useful for Russians to read the "Khokhlyatsky" or "Pindos" press.
аватар alex45
Vic Grin! And where did you get the facts that the bomb was planted? This is one of the versions, there is no official data.
On politics, I can say the following. There can be a lot of everything connected with it. I have already read that this is a response for the Malaysian airliner that was shot down in Ukraine, what kind of war in Syria and many other heresies. Therefore, I’m not going to think about it either. I know that in Ukraine there is a Ministry of Propaganda, not information, but “propaganda.” You watch Russian channels, compare them with Ukrainian ones, there is so much rubbish and nonsense on both sides. So still, then answer, why was the alleged bomb planted in a Russian plane, and a Malaysian airliner was shot down over Ukraine? Only intelligibly - your thoughts, not meaningful rhetorical questions.
аватар Slav1
I personally do not lean towards either version:
1. Revenge of parents whose children were in Malaysian. If you study this topic, the children of not ordinary parents flew there. At least some of them.
2. Revenge of ISIS for Syria.
3. Just a terrorist attack by ISIS (especially since they took responsibility).
4. Old plane. Well, it's the fault of the controlling services of the state.
5. Bomb option to blame ISIS and justify another war.
6. Dispose of the old aircraft and get an old car. Insurance also pays for deaths.
The planes will then be repainted: Kagalymavia-Metrojet - "some other name."
And if Malaysian Airlines announced the closure, then these continue in the spirit of "what is it?"
Maybe everything, the world has become so spoiled and the politics are so mixed up that nothing can be ruled out. The saddest thing is that we tourists will not be able to protect ourselves in any way: neither from breakdowns nor from terrorist attacks.
аватар Vic-Grin
alex45! Why something to prove? The bottom line is that the Russians, because of the political ambitions and aggressive actions of their rulers, should be afraid and expect a dirty trick from everywhere. They are surrounded by enemies. And we, Ukrainians, on November 6 (i.e., the day after tomorrow) with a company of 8 people, including me, fly by Ukrainian plane to Hurghada and are not afraid of anything. We want the weather to be good :)
аватар alex45
Well then, keep in mind that most of the aircraft of Ukrainian companies with a service life of about 20 years. There is nothing to be afraid of, but beware. I have been to Hurghada more than once and have seen these planes.
And so good luck to you! Rest!
аватар ollennka
Personally, I am not afraid of a terrorist attack, but to realize that there are still airlines with such a fleet in the country. I haven’t flown charters since 2010 and I don’t advise others.
The causes of the accident are traditionally attributed to the "human factor".
аватар Slav1
"There is nothing to fear, but beware" ???
A tourist does not want this for a tourist. Even an opponent.
аватар Scurra-2
Planes fell and exploded for various reasons and will fall and explode again and again. Stay at home, go fishing in a nearby pond, travel on foot. Or just pray. Although here, "How many religions and how little faith!"
аватар L-Penka66
Heavy feeling. Burying loved ones is hard. But it is impossible to imagine the identification procedure after the experience - it's like a control in the head. But in this terrible example, I thought - why is the catastrophe over Sinai so transparently covered, but with the Malaysian Boeing over the Donbass, it was covered to the point of mystery sparingly ?! Moreover, it was utterly politicized. Here are pictures of packed suitcases, bloody chairs, covered remains. And there - indistinct fragments, the same people holding the same toy. Here are photographs and videos of the dead, and there are newspaper articles with specific accusations. There is still no clear conclusion on the Malaysian Boeing (and understatement gives rise to the most fantastic versions, up to the absence of passengers there). Will there be an objective investigation into the dead Russians - God forbid. But there are always too many sides that are not interested in any truth. In any case, people should remain people. human and international
аватар Vic-Grin
L-Penka66_ And what's incomprehensible here? so-called. Lugandon militia for a long time did not allow foreign experts to the crash site, while Russian specialists confiscated and took away parts of the aircraft that compromised the killers, i.e. Russian military. And the local shantyrapa poked all the belongings of the dead that came to hand. One lady even boasted on social networks what cool cosmetics she managed to find.
аватар L-Penka66
Well, I will not answer you personally, Vic-Grin. We are in different weight categories - I am not addicted to TV and do not repeat anyone's memes. I will only repeat what I wanted to convey with my previous post - humanity and humane attitude should be applied to all people, regardless of nationality and geography of residence. I am disgusted with modifications like "lugandons" or "ukropeoids". Ladies in social networks, sensational fakes - all this is unproven for me. There is only dry legal language - there are no official legal conclusions on that catastrophe. And it's suspicious. Nothing personal. You don't have to get into a political debate with me. I am for peace and travel. All the best
аватар HotLine
For L-Penka66.
Every time I am surprised when a person does not want to accept obvious facts that are uncomfortable for him.
MH17 was shot down on 17 July. The OSCE experts were allowed to the crash site for the first time on July 19 for one hour and without full access to the crash site.
http://www.bbc.com/russian/international/2014/07/140719_mh17_osce_access_denied
On July 21, they more or less started working. But problems with admission were constant.
Type in Google "OSCE experts were allowed to the site of the plane crash" and you will see the chronicle.
There are clear conclusions. While there is a closed part of the conclusion. All manipulation versions have been refuted. There remains the legal side - who is to blame. Therefore, everything is done very carefully. It's not about speed, it's about inevitability.
аватар L-Penka66
A very philosophical answer. The right side is the main thing. If you reproach me for not accepting obvious facts, then I will once again try to convey that "Lugandon militias", "confiscation and removal of details", appointing some as murderers and labeling others as "local shanty" are not obvious facts, but politically colored emotions. However, as well as the statement on the same branch of the fact of "flashes recorded by the satellite", confirming the "bomb explosion on board". Nobody's point of view in the discussion here needs to be defended. As well as nowhere. Points of view can and should be different, especially since the topic, in general, is not about good and bad, but about the fear of flying. At least that's what it says in the preamble of the question. So God be with her, with politics. Tired
аватар HotLine
I didn't write about politics. I answered your "why is the disaster over Sinai so transparently covered, but with the Malaysian Boeing over the Donbass it was covered to the point of mystery sparsely ?!". And your "Here" and "There".
I hope you figured it out.
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