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Is it worth it now (end of February - all of March, beginning of April) to fly to Sharm or wait?
Gentlemen, I want to hear your opinion of experienced travelers. Is it safe to fly now due to the virus? It may not be available in Sharm, but where is the guarantee that there will be no travelers on the plane who have visited Asia or have contact with arrivals from Asia. I really want to go to Sharm, but I'm afraid :))
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аватар Vika284
when you go shopping for groceries, visiting theaters or cinemas and shopping malls, visiting bank branches, etc. where is the guarantee that there are people around you who have not recently visited Asia or may have returned from the Italian region of Lombardy
There was one question where the girl did not see anything terrible to take on vacation a child with chickenpox or measles. We must be afraid of those who are ready to put your health, the health of many people, in order not to lose $ 500 for the tour
аватар vezha2
I completely agree with Vika284, you need to be afraid of "desperate" people who can bring sick children with chickenpox, travel with psoriasis themselves, or even cooler - smoke on board the plane (as one "desperate" did last year on our flight), and It doesn't matter that about 400 people are flying.
And no one is safe from coronavirus, just like no one will give guarantees about it.
аватар AllOverTheWorld
In addition to the coronavirus, there are a bunch of more terrible sores transmitted by airborne droplets.
oh, and no one is safe from the fall of a brick, not to mention other force majeure circumstances.
the main thing is not to panic, otherwise it’s already, thanks to the Sanzhars, they have disgraced the whole world.
аватар agent_borabora
Would you like one of us to guarantee the absence of sick people in your environment?
аватар camomille
now, of course, they will tell me that I am paranoid, an alarmist, etc., but if I go, I would go at the end of February. prices are now pleasant for Egypt, nothing is heard about outbreaks of coronovirus in Egypt. what will happen in March-April - no one knows. it is quite possible that the TO will adjust the flight program and prices will increase.
Considering that residents of the border regions of Russia constantly travel (traveled) to China in large numbers, as well as the fact that we have open borders with Russia and ORDLO, I think that the virus will soon flood to us from the East.
but, in general. it's up to you to decide. I happened to be in a crowd of Asians in a small enclosed space last week. Today I have a flu condition and I remembered it. somehow it became creepy)))
аватар AllOverTheWorld
camomille, you are a godsend and a treasure for pharmaceutical companies)))) the placebo effect works for you 100%)))), do not be offended, I know many very good people with the same suspiciousness and alarmism))
Health, peace and good impressions to all, because Spring is coming soon!
аватар V.Zolot
agent_borabora, I would like :)) There were a lot of plans for traveling in various directions.
аватар moy_contakt
vezha2, Just in case, apparently you are not aware, psoriasis is a chronic non-infectious disease, a dermatosis that mainly affects the skin. Well, the fact that there are a lot of really sick people with anything and we just don’t know is a fact. The same tuberculosis ... I know people who regularly fly to Turkey for treatment (but it also happens in different stages, both infectious and not, but who will tell you about this). We have a family trip to Egypt at the end of April, and in June a large group (family + dad + family of friends) to Spain .... and now I'm sitting and thinking what is the probability that before June he will get to us or in Spain or it will already be everywhere ...... I decided that it’s better not to think about it, because the tickets were bought, the hotel was booked and paid for .....
аватар camomille
AllOverTheWorld
I envy your nerves of steel with white envy))) to be in a jostling crowd of Asian tourists who tear off their masks and begin, like locusts, to grab the chocolate put up in the shop for testing, which lies on a dish and from which you yourself just took a few pieces and ate (yeah, for free and vinegar is sweet, and Belgian chocolate is even more so) .......
given today's realities, this is not entirely good
аватар vezha2
moy_contakt, I am aware of psoriasis, I meant more aesthetic side (we go into the same sea, from the same beach).
We are flying to Sharm next week, we do not change the tradition of celebrating March 8 in warm places, although a friend from St. Petersburg refused to travel due to the virus.
аватар moy_contakt
vezha2, we are all smart people. Realistically look at the ratio of dead to sick. Various forms of acute respiratory infections also mow down with lethal and sometimes worse (more precisely, complications after suffering acute respiratory infections). But in our area, this is an unprovable statistic, since a diagnosis without tests is made by eye according to the symptoms, often with the wrong treatment. And even if he gets to us, everything will be the same. The usual diagnosis without any tests, the usual treatment, who did not survive, died of complications ... everything is as usual. We won’t even know that we have some other acute respiratory disease and not the one that mowed down before .... Well, there is no treatment in any case. Treat already received complications. No panic.
аватар Vika284
some misconceptions about ARI - and various forms
SARS - Acute Respiratory Viral Infection - SARS includes the common cold, influenza, and bronchiolitis, and also includes severe forms of coronavirus infection such as SARS, MERS, and COVID-19 coronavirus infection, also includes respiratory infections (ARI) or acute respiratory illness ( ORZ)
there are many studies of one of the causes of psoriasis is retroviruses
аватар moy_contakt
Let's not talk about psoriasis, a really painful topic, and people's attitude to this sore brings even more"joy " .... why and why, no one has figured out yet, otherwise it's a proven fact that it's not contagious. And I think that this can stop. And at the expense of SARS, acute respiratory infections and the rest, I'm not a doctor, but in my specific work I have a direct relationship with this whole garbage and just a little, this concerns me first of all. What and how it is specifically called, what it is divided into is not my topic, these are biologists. But I think I described it clearly, the main thing is that there is always a percentage of mortality after complications. Well, the contingent of dying, as usual, is the elderly and people with health problems. More recently, in our area there was already a type of acute respiratory viral infection with a complication of the lungs (we were ill with the whole family), it was harder than usual for me and my son, because we have this sore spot with him. Husband and daughter as usual, easy and fast. I do not exclude some really difficult moments related specifically to the coronavirus, but tracking the statistics of the dead, so today it is not the worst yet.
аватар Vika284
"But the fact that it is not contagious is a proven fact." - the controversial viral theory of psoriasis, scientific research on this theory is being carried out both in Russia, France and the USA
аватар moy_contakt
Vika284, in addition to psoriasis, there are so many sores living in a tourist neighbor sitting next to you, you won’t even know because they are not visible, but you have every chance of getting them after talking with this very neighbor ..... I’d better keep silent. This is a topic that can be long and tedious to discuss, but the result will not change.
аватар Vika284
my_contact 100%
аватар ollennka
Fortune telling on coffee grounds. Who can guess where the next outbreak will be after Italy?
We can only advise you to take a tour immediately on the eve of departure, so that there is up-to-date information about the virus specifically in Egypt.
It is definitely worth refraining from unnecessary travel for older people and those who are no longer very healthy, for example, suffer from cardiovascular diseases. The coronavirus itself is not as bad as its complications.
аватар okorsun103
Hello, our tour to the island has been cancelled. Hainan, we changed to Hurghada. Departure on March 5 in the hope that everything will subside, but it was not there. Parents panic dissuade me, but as I understand it, the fine will be 100%. I don’t even know what to do.
аватар lazy_person
V.Zolot
You can talk a lot about this. Someone will compare the trip with a visit to a grocery store (there is also full of all kinds of infection), and someone will convince you that you can’t go on a trip (coronavirus is everywhere). To decide to go or not can only every man for himself.
So you came, let's say, from Ukraine to Sharm el-Sheikh. And in Ukraine, by the way, there are already infected people too (today it was reported in the news that he brought one from Hungary). It means that you got off the plane, and at the airport they recorded an increase in temperature in you or your child. It can be from fatigue, and from the flight, etc. But what will happen after that? Quarantine not vacation...
On the other hand, tours will become cheaper (in all directions).
аватар lazy_person
okorsun103
I remember that discussion about going to China. It was a month ago. I dissuaded them from going... Now they are afraid to go to Egypt.
No more questions about Hainan.
аватар ollennka
okorsun103, don't do anything. On the eve of departure, decide whether to fly or not to fly. And as the previous speaker correctly noted, perhaps it’s not the virus itself that is worse, but the risk of being quarantined for a couple of weeks instead of a vacation (or after it).
аватар okorsun103
But you can also offer as a canceled tour at a discount, at least some money back. Our tour is of course expensive, for 3 people for 10 nights they took it. Now I see the prices are much lower.
аватар camomille
lazy_person
if by comparing "a trip to a grocery store" you mean me, then that was a trip too. and "deli" is a chocolate shop across from a pissing boy in Brussels
аватар camomille
already in Tenerife people were locked up in a hotel (((
https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-51630100
My neighbor caught the period of the virus in Hainan. in her words: it was horror. everything was closed, all excursions were canceled, shops and cafes stopped working, they were forced to wear masks all the time. they took the hotel for breakfast. there was nowhere to eat and drink. there is nowhere to buy food. at the hotel, the prices for dinner immediately soared to the impossibility that they lived from hand to mouth.
аватар lazy_person
camomille
Do not worry. I didn't use you as an example. He will look at the very first answer: - "... when you go to the store for groceries, visiting theaters or cinemas .." (we are talking about the fact that you can catch an infection everywhere). But I'm talking about something else...
When you enter a store at your home, your temperature is not measured at the entrance (not yet). And in Egypt, upon arrival at the airport, they can measure ... I went there four times through the bar, took off my shoes, shook out my bag, dragged my suitcase to the plane. Meticulously receive citizens.
аватар camomille
We arrived a week ago. Were in Germany, Belgium and the Netherlands. At that moment, everything was absolutely calm everywhere. In masks, I saw only Asian tourists and one European guy at the airport. No one else. No one took the temperature anywhere. There was no sanitary control at all.
аватар Vic-Grin
In Egypt, sick tourists with fever and those who came into contact with them will be quarantined in the desert 100 km away. from the nearest settlement and there they will be treated. Who will die and who will recover. In Egypt, the coronavirus will not take root much. The desert is big. So, have a nice holiday in Egypt.
аватар dima_80_
"To be afraid of wolves - do not go into the forest!" Fly without fear! Any contact with a person from Asia or Italy can even be in their own country.
аватар V.Zolot
camomille: "No one took the temperature anywhere. There was no sanitary control in sight..."
A week ago there was none, but today Europe is already deciding whether to close its borders. And WHO can declare a pandemic. So at the moment, not a single agency has given me intelligible answers to the question of what will happen to tourists who are in the same Egypt when a (God forbid) pandemic is declared. The lack of bookings for tours before the beginning of summer at local agencies is also alarming. Book only Turkey. It turns out that my question is relevant. And it’s not about the brick, which can fall. (I didn’t want to offend anyone). The point is in the internal struggle: to go, not to go. Sharm has long become a second home, where you get a huge recharge from the sea, fish and sun!
аватар ollennka
"Book only Turkey."
You might think that in Turkey someone will give guarantees that there will be no virus there)).
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