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How to choose a mask and snorkel
Experienced snorkelers share the criteria for choosing a mask, snorkel, fins. What should you pay attention to when buying? Can anyone tell me their price in Egypt and the most convenient places to buy. The best firms in terms of price-quality. A few tricks for use. For example, I was recommended to lubricate the glass with toothpaste so as not to sweat. And to eliminate the leakage of water by lubricating the edges with olive oil. It has not yet been applied in practice.
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Fat, including olive oil, will reduce the clarity of the image. Even indelible sunscreen (waterproof) leaves stains on the “windshield”. Leaks can be eliminated by buying a branded mask with good silicone. by washing in the sink with liquid soap.
Some people spit and rub saliva on the inner surface of the glass. If the mask is yours, then it’s okay, but if the “common fund” is not pleasant. and not collect in droplets). For this, there is special chemistry or, at worst, an anti-fog from a car shop. liquid inside.
You need to practice a little (close your eyes so that water does not get into them) and it is desirable to be in fins (for greater confidence).
Some people spit and rub saliva on the inner surface of the glass. If the mask is yours, then it’s okay, but if the “common fund” is not pleasant. and not collect in droplets). For this, there is special chemistry or, at worst, an anti-fog from a car shop. liquid inside.
You need to practice a little (close your eyes so that water does not get into them) and it is desirable to be in fins (for greater confidence).
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answered 15 years ago
I think that if you are going to travel more than once and for the sake of the sea, then ALWAYS buy branded ones. There are special stores in Ukraine and Russia and the well-known Sportmaster (I bought it there). The assortment is not too much, but you can choose, especially when there are discounts and bonuses on the card ;)
Recommended companies are Tusa, AquaLung, ReefTourer. There are their official sites on the Internet (RuNet), read them. I saw a Tusa snorkel set in Egypt on SOHO, about $ 54, a little cheaper.
It’s better to buy a snorkel with a valve (it’s an unnecessary thing in a mask), with which it doesn’t matter, you are not a freediver and you don’t need fairings for high-speed swims at all. , even with branded ones it is “not so hot”. When a person dives, the jaw forces increase so that the tube does not fall out of his mouth.
If the teeth are complete, after a week the tooth pads fall off and the tube becomes unusable (two tubes were thrown away for 250-320 UAH), no one sells spare mouthpieces. Therefore, when choosing, look at the rigidity of the mouthpiece material, the softer, the faster it will come out out of order ... and less clench your teeth when diving ;)))
Recommended companies are Tusa, AquaLung, ReefTourer. There are their official sites on the Internet (RuNet), read them. I saw a Tusa snorkel set in Egypt on SOHO, about $ 54, a little cheaper.
It’s better to buy a snorkel with a valve (it’s an unnecessary thing in a mask), with which it doesn’t matter, you are not a freediver and you don’t need fairings for high-speed swims at all. , even with branded ones it is “not so hot”. When a person dives, the jaw forces increase so that the tube does not fall out of his mouth.
If the teeth are complete, after a week the tooth pads fall off and the tube becomes unusable (two tubes were thrown away for 250-320 UAH), no one sells spare mouthpieces. Therefore, when choosing, look at the rigidity of the mouthpiece material, the softer, the faster it will come out out of order ... and less clench your teeth when diving ;)))
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answered 15 years ago
Fins (branded) have a decent leg circumference, due to the softness of the material, so as not to “rub” the legs when swimming. Although, during long swims, there are occasions with them. ), I recommend putting socks on your feet, and then fins. Although the option with bots + fins is the most optimal, but the price goes off scale (fins for bots are more than 1300 UAH and bots are more than 1000 UAH, I don’t remember exactly ...), but in such a set you can get to corals to any place on the reef, then put on flippers and GO!, which you can’t do in coral slippers (then you have to throw them ashore or take them in “tug”.
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answered 15 years ago
I agree, fins + boots are the best option. A quality mask starts at $ 50. Press it to your face, inhale and release your hands. The mask MUST stick to your face.
As for spitting into the mask, it’s a sacred thing, no special solutions can even be compared! We always do this!
As for spitting into the mask, it’s a sacred thing, no special solutions can even be compared! We always do this!
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answered 15 years ago
papa74 as always on top.
Thank you so much for such detailed information. It's really great to read your comments and responses. I focus on them first and foremost.
On the issue of spitting into the mask, what will we check in practice (they say mother-in-law's saliva helps with back pain :)
Thank you so much for such detailed information. It's really great to read your comments and responses. I focus on them first and foremost.
On the issue of spitting into the mask, what will we check in practice (they say mother-in-law's saliva helps with back pain :)
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answered 15 years ago
Was in Sportmaster-SALE!
Technisub boots for 350 UAH (there were 720). Masks-snorkels-fins WITHOUT discounts.
Technisub boots for 350 UAH (there were 720). Masks-snorkels-fins WITHOUT discounts.
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answered 15 years ago
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Should decide this week. While choosing between Sultan Gardens 5 * and SAVITA Resort & SPA 5 *. Your feedback is missing on Sultanu, tk. they are the most voluminous and informative.
Should decide this week. While choosing between Sultan Gardens 5 * and SAVITA Resort & SPA 5 *. Your feedback is missing on Sultanu, tk. they are the most voluminous and informative.
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answered 15 years ago
Only TEZ carries from the Dnieper, but they don’t carry to the Sultan. I only saw the surroundings from the observation deck of Pyramiza (that’s all that is from “mine” according to the Sultan (far away)):
http://www.turpravda.com/foto/34055.html
If you had to leave not from the Dnieper, then you were seduced by Pegasus prices in Marsa Alam (700-800 for All for two).
The Sultan in the Turpravdov rating is among the leaders. Of course, with underwater photos (according to the Sultan), you must take the word of reviewers. It's up to you.
According to Savite, the pool is not heated (if you go now), the construction works occasionally to the right of the hotel (but it works, tourists of the Hilton SB, which is located on the other side of the construction site, complain about it), food is not for everyone (although no one harms at home if 30 -40 dishes ;))), a lot of Slavs (alcoholization at a high level).
Look at the worthy fours Sunrise Garden 2, the line is not tense at all (about $ 1100), Sierra (Savoy beach) or Vieux 5 * (about $ 1400), border on Soho - there you will get a mask. Corner supermarket - opposite the center entrance to Savoy.
TUSA-54 (I don’t remember exactly) $ mask-snorkel set. In Sportmaster the same for 500 UAH (a little more, I don’t remember the exact price, but much more than in Egypt)
http://www.turpravda.com/foto/34055.html
If you had to leave not from the Dnieper, then you were seduced by Pegasus prices in Marsa Alam (700-800 for All for two).
The Sultan in the Turpravdov rating is among the leaders. Of course, with underwater photos (according to the Sultan), you must take the word of reviewers. It's up to you.
According to Savite, the pool is not heated (if you go now), the construction works occasionally to the right of the hotel (but it works, tourists of the Hilton SB, which is located on the other side of the construction site, complain about it), food is not for everyone (although no one harms at home if 30 -40 dishes ;))), a lot of Slavs (alcoholization at a high level).
Look at the worthy fours Sunrise Garden 2, the line is not tense at all (about $ 1100), Sierra (Savoy beach) or Vieux 5 * (about $ 1400), border on Soho - there you will get a mask. Corner supermarket - opposite the center entrance to Savoy.
TUSA-54 (I don’t remember exactly) $ mask-snorkel set. In Sportmaster the same for 500 UAH (a little more, I don’t remember the exact price, but much more than in Egypt)
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Still, I’ll probably refuse Savita, as it’s disturbing to go there (reviews are extremely contradictory, except for the reef assessment), although the price is the lowest - $ 1260 of the ones I have chosen Sultan, Sunrise Garden and the most expensive Siera - we have $ 1530 with a 5% discount.
Today I went to the store and looked at the masks. Panoramic 2140 lay most tightly (elenako's advice), here it is http://snaryaga.com.ua/?act=shop&proizvoditel=16&podcat=47&cat=1 there were also imported ones, the seller called them Bushevsky, and I especially because of inattention title was not considered. There was only one tube with a valve, also Aqua Discovery, but the seller couldn’t say anything about it, I also twisted it in my hands and put it aside, because I don’t know what to pay attention to except for the price of 460 rubles ($ 15). Aqua Discovery masks (they are produced in Rostov-on-Don) the seller praised and said that they were equated to professional ones. Oriented for lovers of spearfishing. Showed huge (in my opinion) fins price 3600 rubles ($120). To my question about normal ones, he said that this is pampering and you won’t swim far on them.
Tell us what length of fins you use and how critical it is. About the mandatory valve in the tube, I found the following information:
Today I went to the store and looked at the masks. Panoramic 2140 lay most tightly (elenako's advice), here it is http://snaryaga.com.ua/?act=shop&proizvoditel=16&podcat=47&cat=1 there were also imported ones, the seller called them Bushevsky, and I especially because of inattention title was not considered. There was only one tube with a valve, also Aqua Discovery, but the seller couldn’t say anything about it, I also twisted it in my hands and put it aside, because I don’t know what to pay attention to except for the price of 460 rubles ($ 15). Aqua Discovery masks (they are produced in Rostov-on-Don) the seller praised and said that they were equated to professional ones. Oriented for lovers of spearfishing. Showed huge (in my opinion) fins price 3600 rubles ($120). To my question about normal ones, he said that this is pampering and you won’t swim far on them.
Tell us what length of fins you use and how critical it is. About the mandatory valve in the tube, I found the following information:
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answered 15 years ago
I consider valves to be a very unreliable and superfluous thing, they make it difficult for the free passage of air through the tube, forcing you to put more effort into breathing, which will lead to faster fatigue.
And for myself the delitant discovered the following phrases:
Have you cleaned the new mask? You take toothpaste and rub the glass with it to remove the factory film.
Some do it by burning it with a lighter.
And then you will either lubricate in the old-fashioned way, or buy an antifog, or drop a drop of baby shampoo into each lens, or you can have a small amount of water under the mask and rinse constantly.
I immediately burn the glass of new masks as I bring it home from the store
Is this really necessary???
And for myself the delitant discovered the following phrases:
Have you cleaned the new mask? You take toothpaste and rub the glass with it to remove the factory film.
Some do it by burning it with a lighter.
And then you will either lubricate in the old-fashioned way, or buy an antifog, or drop a drop of baby shampoo into each lens, or you can have a small amount of water under the mask and rinse constantly.
I immediately burn the glass of new masks as I bring it home from the store
Is this really necessary???
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I think "how many people - so many opinions"
Where does the factory film come from on the mask? (Does it exist at all?)
"I immediately burn the glass of new masks as I bring it home from the store" - how many masks does a person have? Owner of a dive center.
I approve of the mask, because the factory in Russia is not China's consumer goods. After all, the factory has certification, quality, glass-glass, and not some kind of fake polymer ... and you can, of course, burn it, but the temperature will not be much "to your liking" for silicone.
Fins took ReefTourer-dollars 50 (Italy). They serve faithfully for 2.5 years. We went through the Maldives, Turkey and 7 Egypts. Combined. There are hard inserts, but mostly soft rubber. "on the bottom. For a snork, this is overkill (mine are about 60-65cm - the entire length)
Where does the factory film come from on the mask? (Does it exist at all?)
"I immediately burn the glass of new masks as I bring it home from the store" - how many masks does a person have? Owner of a dive center.
I approve of the mask, because the factory in Russia is not China's consumer goods. After all, the factory has certification, quality, glass-glass, and not some kind of fake polymer ... and you can, of course, burn it, but the temperature will not be much "to your liking" for silicone.
Fins took ReefTourer-dollars 50 (Italy). They serve faithfully for 2.5 years. We went through the Maldives, Turkey and 7 Egypts. Combined. There are hard inserts, but mostly soft rubber. "on the bottom. For a snork, this is overkill (mine are about 60-65cm - the entire length)
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answered 15 years ago
A tube.
Wrote probably an underwater hunter;))
In real tubes (and even China), the valve does not add volume at all! It is located either below or to the side of the tube duct.
Considering the structure of the human respiratory system and the volume of circulating air ...
"During calm breathing, a person inhales and exhales about 500 ml of air. This volume of air is called the tidal volume. When you take a deep breath, you can additionally inhale another 1500 ml of air (inspiratory reserve volume). And after a calm exhalation, you can additionally exhale another 1500 ml of air (reserve volume exhalation).The sum of these three volumes is the vital capacity of the lungs - VC. It is equal to an average of 3500 ml in an adult. VC depends on age, gender, physical fitness of a person, there is still about 150 ml of air in the airways, which does not take part in gas exchange ."
I remember that I was measured like ZhEL-4.
5 liters into the spirometer "exhaled-inhaled", and now the question is "Which side will interfere with you up to a maximum of 10 ml (the volume of the transition from the tube to the valve, and not the volume of plastic and diffuser behind the valve) of excess volume? What will the number 10 mean, let's say 20 ml to forced inspiration with a volume of 2000 ml (DO + ROV), 1% comes out!
Wrote probably an underwater hunter;))
In real tubes (and even China), the valve does not add volume at all! It is located either below or to the side of the tube duct.
Considering the structure of the human respiratory system and the volume of circulating air ...
"During calm breathing, a person inhales and exhales about 500 ml of air. This volume of air is called the tidal volume. When you take a deep breath, you can additionally inhale another 1500 ml of air (inspiratory reserve volume). And after a calm exhalation, you can additionally exhale another 1500 ml of air (reserve volume exhalation).The sum of these three volumes is the vital capacity of the lungs - VC. It is equal to an average of 3500 ml in an adult. VC depends on age, gender, physical fitness of a person, there is still about 150 ml of air in the airways, which does not take part in gas exchange ."
I remember that I was measured like ZhEL-4.
5 liters into the spirometer "exhaled-inhaled", and now the question is "Which side will interfere with you up to a maximum of 10 ml (the volume of the transition from the tube to the valve, and not the volume of plastic and diffuser behind the valve) of excess volume? What will the number 10 mean, let's say 20 ml to forced inspiration with a volume of 2000 ml (DO + ROV), 1% comes out!
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answered 15 years ago
Will you notice discomfort at 0.5-1%?
At worst, when surfacing after diving, you can calmly spit out the mouthpiece and breathe through your mouth, without any purges and expulsions of air from the lungs of the water that has flooded into the tube ("out of yourself", when you so want to "into yourself" to let air in).
So the valve, with frequent but not tiring diving (which can actually happen when snorkeling) or pouring water with a deeper immersion of the head in water (I saw something) is extremely necessary. Instead of pushing water through the entire tube, you just need to "drain "it is at the mouth. Moreover, if you have an old Soviet" hook-squiggle" made of aluminum, then you need to do this very vigorously so as not to slurp the remnants of the Sea. And here is a hyperdry tube without too much effort.
At worst, when surfacing after diving, you can calmly spit out the mouthpiece and breathe through your mouth, without any purges and expulsions of air from the lungs of the water that has flooded into the tube ("out of yourself", when you so want to "into yourself" to let air in).
So the valve, with frequent but not tiring diving (which can actually happen when snorkeling) or pouring water with a deeper immersion of the head in water (I saw something) is extremely necessary. Instead of pushing water through the entire tube, you just need to "drain "it is at the mouth. Moreover, if you have an old Soviet" hook-squiggle" made of aluminum, then you need to do this very vigorously so as not to slurp the remnants of the Sea. And here is a hyperdry tube without too much effort.
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answered 15 years ago
Regarding the pipe, after such a complete answer, I have nothing to write. My fins are 70 cm. It is important that the fins are powerful, but I am a diver.
As for the mask-burning, I hear it for the first time. I have a mask for spearfishing, it does not shine. But, since my eyesight is not very good, they put glasses with diopters on me.
Yes, if the mask is new, you can clean it with toothpowder, but in my opinion, spit and grind it is best. There are also special solutions, but you need to go somewhere for them, do not forget about buying them ...
As for the mask-burning, I hear it for the first time. I have a mask for spearfishing, it does not shine. But, since my eyesight is not very good, they put glasses with diopters on me.
Yes, if the mask is new, you can clean it with toothpowder, but in my opinion, spit and grind it is best. There are also special solutions, but you need to go somewhere for them, do not forget about buying them ...
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answered 15 years ago
http://snaryaga.com.ua/?act=shop&cat=1&podcat=54
Which of these tubes do you recommend?
Are fins still needed for diving or swimming? If you swim slowly, as papa74 recommends, then maybe you can do without them? Painfully bulky to drag. In the Sea of u200bu200bAzov, and even more so in other more saline seas-oceans, with calm navigation, I did not see any particular need for them. But never snorted. Just swam away from the crowd of people.
Which of these tubes do you recommend?
Are fins still needed for diving or swimming? If you swim slowly, as papa74 recommends, then maybe you can do without them? Painfully bulky to drag. In the Sea of u200bu200bAzov, and even more so in other more saline seas-oceans, with calm navigation, I did not see any particular need for them. But never snorted. Just swam away from the crowd of people.
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answered 15 years ago
You can save money and buy sb25, all the rest on a "hard hitch", dropping it out of your mouth, you will have to "attach" it, and the tube is hooked to the mask. It will be inconvenient. When there is a soft corrugated insert - OK! (no extra leverage) + valve. I was surprised that there is an opportunity in some mouthpiece replacements. Even TUSA does not provide this. I said that made in Russia is not bad at all, now it turns out that it’s very good. mouthpiece replacement).
You should definitely buy fins. Choose a shorter one for easy transportation, but buy it without fail.
You should definitely buy fins. Choose a shorter one for easy transportation, but buy it without fail.
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answered 15 years ago
Both, but I was just embarrassed by the corrugation, in the tube that was in the singular in the store. Turns out it's a plus! If they don’t delay me at work, I’ll go and look in more detail today. And also on the operation of these valves in the tube. Some have two: top and bottom. In others, one by one. How to check the correctness of their work in the store or is it possible only when swimming? How to check the reliability and convenience of the mouthpiece, it’s clear about softness, but what about bite?
Now I read this topic on a new one and saw that papa74 already wrote about the advantages of a corrugated tube, this info just didn’t linger in my preoccupied head.
Now I read this topic on a new one and saw that papa74 already wrote about the advantages of a corrugated tube, this info just didn’t linger in my preoccupied head.
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answered 15 years ago
About bite (professional)
Whatever the mouthpiece is, it overestimates your physiological bite by a certain height (thickness of the dental pads). Minor changes occur in the temporomandibular joint, which, with very long swims, can snork cause pain that can radiate to the ear).
Pay attention to the thickness of the mouthpiece teeth and their perforation or at least thinness (in some places) so that you can fit the mouthpiece well into the mouthpiece. On the other hand, the mouthpiece should not be very soft so that the clamps do not bite off when diving (as I wrote above) .
I myself sin that when I'm "boredom" in the water, I sometimes gnaw on the mouthpiece - from "nothing to do", for which I paid with 2 tubes.
Sorry for some pun ;))))
The mouthpiece is checked manually (tactilely) or, if you want, you can put it in place, then you have to spit with talcum powder. If the store is small, ask the seller (or yourself) to rinse the mouthpiece under running water. This is the best way (in Sportmaster, where I took equipment , this number did not pass).
Whatever the mouthpiece is, it overestimates your physiological bite by a certain height (thickness of the dental pads). Minor changes occur in the temporomandibular joint, which, with very long swims, can snork cause pain that can radiate to the ear).
Pay attention to the thickness of the mouthpiece teeth and their perforation or at least thinness (in some places) so that you can fit the mouthpiece well into the mouthpiece. On the other hand, the mouthpiece should not be very soft so that the clamps do not bite off when diving (as I wrote above) .
I myself sin that when I'm "boredom" in the water, I sometimes gnaw on the mouthpiece - from "nothing to do", for which I paid with 2 tubes.
Sorry for some pun ;))))
The mouthpiece is checked manually (tactilely) or, if you want, you can put it in place, then you have to spit with talcum powder. If the store is small, ask the seller (or yourself) to rinse the mouthpiece under running water. This is the best way (in Sportmaster, where I took equipment , this number did not pass).
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answered 15 years ago
About the tube. I never paid such close attention when buying, the tubes were good. The only thing that I encountered personally for the last time was that the ring that is attached to the mask burst, I had to glue it with adhesive tape in the dive center. I just remembered now, I will have to deal with this issue. In my opinion, we will fly again in April.
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answered 15 years ago
I understand that this is "lyricism", but I already wanted to "on the shelves".
Basically, the Chinese holders burst (at the godfather in December, on the 2nd day, they were attached without adhesive tape, the set was sold with fins in a mesh bag, the clip was cut off (as in jackets on the hood) with a piece of rope-tightened, everything is OK!), one more clip "left" from the not quite snorkeling company Fashy (the Germans seem to produce everything for pools). Changed clothes from Aqualung ...
It is the latch for attaching to the mask, the weakest link in the kits, especially of dubious quality, made in China.
Mars again, Elena?
Basically, the Chinese holders burst (at the godfather in December, on the 2nd day, they were attached without adhesive tape, the set was sold with fins in a mesh bag, the clip was cut off (as in jackets on the hood) with a piece of rope-tightened, everything is OK!), one more clip "left" from the not quite snorkeling company Fashy (the Germans seem to produce everything for pools). Changed clothes from Aqualung ...
It is the latch for attaching to the mask, the weakest link in the kits, especially of dubious quality, made in China.
Mars again, Elena?
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answered 15 years ago
Yes, in Marsa Alam, and characteristically, we want to return to the same hotel for the first time. I contacted the dive center, the instructor saw the manatee for the last time in Abu Dabab on February 1. The guys generally want to take a diving safari on the ship, they want to visit one terribly impossible site. Fly with us!
Thank you for the private message, Alexey! I did not answer you personally, I would like first-hand news, so the correspondence with the dive center dragged on, but then I had no time.
Thank you for the private message, Alexey! I did not answer you personally, I would like first-hand news, so the correspondence with the dive center dragged on, but then I had no time.
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Well, I'm a snorkeler, hardened ...;)))
Dugosha must live! Not much of it there. Another plan has matured, but Marsa Alamovsky. We need to check other places ...
Dugosha must live! Not much of it there. Another plan has matured, but Marsa Alamovsky. We need to check other places ...
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Is it really possible to buy only a pipe in Hurghada? I have fins (the child is engaged in swimming, we have good Italian ones with a crossover, and the size of the legs "almost" matches, the mask is also there. But the snorkel ... Either I'm breathing wrong, or something with a valve, but really after 3 breaths full tube of water...
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answered 14 years ago