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Why are tickets so expensive?
I check ticket prices from time to time. In November 2009, for example, the hotel was $830, now it's $1400. What is the rationale for this, who knows? Well, it's clear that the New Year, Christmas, but on January 31 and February the prices are not lower. Although February should be the cheapest month. Or all existing holidays are taken into account - February 14, February 23, March 8, etc. But then who will go at such prices, if they do not lower?
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Travel agencies keep such prices for all our existing holidays, including March 8 and February 14 ..... Children's holidays, including swine flu =) no matter how surprising it sounds, but it's true ..... And our people flew and will fly at such prices, at what they will be told. One person is able to wait a week, the 2nd and the other burns in the 5th point. Because they gave a vacation when what kind of children's holidays ... and they won’t give you another ..... And in order to have 100% occupancy on airplanes, they simply reduce them ..... And even if you want, you won’t take a ticket even at inflated prices ....
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answered 15 years ago
Nobody is holding anything. Market on the street. A dozen large operators with very tough competition, intensified by the crisis. Thousands of agencies. It has been impossible to keep anything for a long time.
The banal truth is that tours are sold at the prices they are sold for. From below they are limited by the cost price, from above - by the price of stros. Agencies generally live on a percentage and do not affect the price level globally. Can not.
In fact.
First, you write about real prices in November, i.e. prices already established in November. And while about the PLANNED prices for the end of January. With a high probability, they will decrease as we approach the departure date. Now, for example, next week's flights are loaded very poorly.
Secondly, why did you decide that the end of January should be cheaper than November.
Thirdly, the price of $830 for two for a week is unprofitable for the tourist industry. This price level is never planned. T.
It makes no sense to look for such tours two weeks before departure.
Just do not give examples of triplets on half-pasion. I write about the principle of price formation.
The banal truth is that tours are sold at the prices they are sold for. From below they are limited by the cost price, from above - by the price of stros. Agencies generally live on a percentage and do not affect the price level globally. Can not.
In fact.
First, you write about real prices in November, i.e. prices already established in November. And while about the PLANNED prices for the end of January. With a high probability, they will decrease as we approach the departure date. Now, for example, next week's flights are loaded very poorly.
Secondly, why did you decide that the end of January should be cheaper than November.
Thirdly, the price of $830 for two for a week is unprofitable for the tourist industry. This price level is never planned. T.
It makes no sense to look for such tours two weeks before departure.
Just do not give examples of triplets on half-pasion. I write about the principle of price formation.
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answered 15 years ago
If it does not limit vacation dates, wait for the burning one.
It’s better to look not at prices, but at the occupancy of seats on the plane of the region where you are going. The operator doesn’t see a semi-empty plane, then you look and an open source software with a normal price will come out and you will be happy in your price segment.
It’s better to look not at prices, but at the occupancy of seats on the plane of the region where you are going. The operator doesn’t see a semi-empty plane, then you look and an open source software with a normal price will come out and you will be happy in your price segment.
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answered 15 years ago
I agree with the author of the topic - since November I have been periodically tracking the price of a very specific hotel - Melia Sinai, now there are no prices below $ 950 per person for a week, neither for the next dates, nor for the end of January, nor beyond. Whereas in the period from the beginning of November to the end of December, the cost fluctuated between 700-760 dollars.
Well, we will travel without agencies. Such a scheme has been successfully tested in other countries, and I think it will work just as well for Egypt. The main issue is air tickets.
Well, we will travel without agencies. Such a scheme has been successfully tested in other countries, and I think it will work just as well for Egypt. The main issue is air tickets.
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answered 15 years ago
Thanks for the replies. I wrote - $ 830 about the five, all inclusive and per person in November. In my opinion, it is not logical now to give $ 1,400 to the same hotel for one, overpaying it is not known for what and to whom, even if there was no money account. Will wait.
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answered 15 years ago
Pachok unfortunately it is with Egypt that you are unlikely to succeed without a tour operator. Just like in Turkey. Package prices. Moreover, all flights are charter. It will cost more on your own. Look at least at the daily prices of the hotel. And plus a transfer, insurance and a plane.
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answered 15 years ago
Amir, I also thought so before :))) And this summer I organized a trip to Turkey for myself. It turned out to be 800 dollars cheaper (this is for two for 14 days in Marty World on an all inclusive basis) than the cheapest package offer. This is already taking into account the transfer (45 euros one way per vehicle), insurance (in general, a penny - 200 UAH for two) and flight (1490 UAH for two on Wizz Air).
So I stopped believing in some "package" prices of Turkish hotels for agencies. Although, no, not in package prices FOR travel agencies, but in the fact that it will be cheaper for a TOURIST.
And, by the way, they settled us right away early in the morning and in a very good room in a quiet place, and the Tezturovsky bus that arrived at the same time with us unloaded the tourists in the lobby, where they toiled for another five hours, and then the same people stormed the reception for two days to change bad numbers.
So I stopped believing in some "package" prices of Turkish hotels for agencies. Although, no, not in package prices FOR travel agencies, but in the fact that it will be cheaper for a TOURIST.
And, by the way, they settled us right away early in the morning and in a very good room in a quiet place, and the Tezturovsky bus that arrived at the same time with us unloaded the tourists in the lobby, where they toiled for another five hours, and then the same people stormed the reception for two days to change bad numbers.
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answered 15 years ago
So I would try with Egypt. Again, the main issue is tickets. But, I think that at the moment you can buy anything at the ticket office.
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answered 15 years ago
Pachok well, then good luck to you in your endeavors. Although I doubt very much about tickets for 1450 UAH for two now.
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answered 15 years ago
I absolutely agree with Pachok, I personally do not want to contribute to the receipt of super profits for tour operators. And tourists with experience have long been traveling themselves. I myself personally saw either in July or in September (I don’t remember exactly) Vizeair tickets to Antalya for 700-something hryvnias. With Egypt, it is a little more difficult with a flight, tour operators want to get three times the cost of a ticket. But if you want, you can find everything. A friend flew from Sharm three days ago for $ 80 :)
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answered 15 years ago
Our friends have an apartment in Egypt, and they need to visit the construction site from time to time. So it turned out to be very problematic to get a ticket for a charter without a ticket, I had to involve the guys from the travel agency to help. A ticket for a flight is still expensive. Although everyone has their own ideas about cheap and expensive.
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answered 15 years ago
the maximum I paid for a ticket Hurghada-Kyiv-Hurghada for two weeks was 550 dollars for the last NG. For this NG, if we hadn’t rushed and hadn’t bought a tour, it would really have been found for 350. I don’t deny finding it is not easy, but possible.
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answered 15 years ago
It also became interesting, in connection with which the price has risen so much. For example, in early December I was at FESTIVAL RIVIERA HOTEL 5 In Hurghada, for 11 nights for 1325 dollars. Now I’m looking at flights there for the next time, a flight in 5 days (not, as described above, planned tours) the same number. days and the same operator already has 1513. The holidays are over, the holidays, thank God, are also experienced, January is raging in the yard (the off-season in Egypt), and prices are rising ... such a paradox.
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answered 15 years ago
we managed to take such a tour for 2 weeks for 800 ye for December in November, in December it cost 1600 ue. let it be unprofitable for the tour operator - for me savings. you can get tickets for a charter, you just have to ask yourself a question, well, sometimes renting a villa-apartment for a family or a company is cheaper than a hotel.
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answered 15 years ago
I have a suspicion that due to the weather on the European continent, many people have abandoned the idea of spending their winter holidays in ski resorts and turned their eyes to the only cheap alternative - Egypt.
I don’t know about renting an apartment in the same Egypt (it seems to me that the only acceptable option for relaxing there is a good hotel in the first line), but through the booking system you can find hotel prices lower than those of the operator. Here, of course, there is a big minus - it is not always possible to find a good price for a particular hotel. If, in principle, it is possible to choose between several, then there will definitely be something on one of them. For example, the same "Melia Sinai" I'm interested in is now hanging on the reservation for February at a price of $71 per room, i.e. $500 for a week FOR TWO. Add 700 for the flight, we get 1200, plus a transfer, insurance, digging our noses, well, let's say another 200 (actually less), we get 1400.
But not the 2000 that the operators want.
Shereaton and Royal Garden at 58 per room, Conconrd and Interplaza at 79.
I don’t know about renting an apartment in the same Egypt (it seems to me that the only acceptable option for relaxing there is a good hotel in the first line), but through the booking system you can find hotel prices lower than those of the operator. Here, of course, there is a big minus - it is not always possible to find a good price for a particular hotel. If, in principle, it is possible to choose between several, then there will definitely be something on one of them. For example, the same "Melia Sinai" I'm interested in is now hanging on the reservation for February at a price of $71 per room, i.e. $500 for a week FOR TWO. Add 700 for the flight, we get 1200, plus a transfer, insurance, digging our noses, well, let's say another 200 (actually less), we get 1400.
But not the 2000 that the operators want.
Shereaton and Royal Garden at 58 per room, Conconrd and Interplaza at 79.
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answered 15 years ago
And now I paid only 215 USD for tickets. for two weeks in Hurghada. I don’t know how it happened, but on December 30, Anex threw tickets on sale. And I took advantage of this opportunity. That is, it is possible to purchase tickets, even for a charter flight.
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answered 15 years ago
Pachok, Is food included in the price of the room or is it a separate fee?
Regarding tickets for a charter, it seems to me that now is not the season, so you can take tickets.
Regarding tickets for a charter, it seems to me that now is not the season, so you can take tickets.
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answered 15 years ago
The thing is that in Egypt the season is all year round. And it is likely to take tickets only when the purchased flight for a certain date turns out to be underloaded. That's when operators throw tickets on sale. Sometimes almost at cost.
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answered 15 years ago
elenako, nutrition should be looked at in each case. As a rule, breakfast is always included. According to most of Sharma's proposals for now - HB. Oll also comes across, but less often. In the summer, almost all of Turkey went to all inclusive.
The type of food that is included in the price can be seen immediately on the website. Sometimes sites offer free bonuses for their customers - late check-out (until 15:00), welcome fruit basket, airport transfer, one-time spa visit. Bookings earn points (money) that can be used as a discount on future bookings.
The type of food that is included in the price can be seen immediately on the website. Sometimes sites offer free bonuses for their customers - late check-out (until 15:00), welcome fruit basket, airport transfer, one-time spa visit. Bookings earn points (money) that can be used as a discount on future bookings.
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answered 15 years ago
At Anex. The main thing is to have a person in the travel agency who will always remember which direction you are interested in. Travel agencies are subscribed to mailings from TO. Here in one of these mailing lists there was an offer to sell tickets.
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answered 15 years ago
I also receive mailings. But operators will not talk to tourists. Those. Did you get it from some familiar agency?
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answered 15 years ago
Pachok. With us, this turns into a personal correspondence, which I propose to continue in a personal. Returning to your question, yes, I took it from a familiar agency.
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answered 15 years ago
Pachok, I wanted to know in your example whether you counted with food or not
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answered 15 years ago
If you take specifically "Mile Sinai" at $ 71, then this is the price for a BB room (with breakfast included) for mid-February.
The operator price is also on BB terms from $ 1059 per one, this is even more expensive for Pegasus, Turtess and Tez Tour. On HB - from 1201.
The operator price is also on BB terms from $ 1059 per one, this is even more expensive for Pegasus, Turtess and Tez Tour. On HB - from 1201.
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answered 15 years ago
Pachok about "the only acceptable option to stay there is a good hotel in the first line" is nonsense. there is nothing better than your own villa or apartment on the same seashore, where you will not be pestered by tourists. For me, a hotel is generally a place where I only spend the night, I don’t even see the point of eating there, the first time is interesting, but it’s boring when you travel not for the first time.
Anex really threw out very cheap tickets in January
Anex really threw out very cheap tickets in January
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answered 15 years ago
2 packs. Pegasus has prices ranging from $1171 to $1218 for TWO. For a week, only breakfasts, standard room, with flights in February from Kyiv. In any travel agency you will be happy to round this amount up to 1150 dollars.
You need not to believe in package prices, you need to imagine how the tourism business works. This is a big, serious business, and since it works, it means that there are objective prerequisites for it.
I don't like Melia Sinai.
You need not to believe in package prices, you need to imagine how the tourism business works. This is a big, serious business, and since it works, it means that there are objective prerequisites for it.
I don't like Melia Sinai.
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answered 15 years ago
2 hotline,
"I don't like Melia Sinai"
I like this. So what?
"you need to understand how the tourism business works"
A tourist does not need this at all. The main thing is at what price he can get a certain set of services of a certain quality.
"from 1171 to 1218 dollars for TWO"
Here you are right, I was wrong. At this price, the operator does not make sense to fence the garden with self-booking.
"I don't like Melia Sinai"
I like this. So what?
"you need to understand how the tourism business works"
A tourist does not need this at all. The main thing is at what price he can get a certain set of services of a certain quality.
"from 1171 to 1218 dollars for TWO"
Here you are right, I was wrong. At this price, the operator does not make sense to fence the garden with self-booking.
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answered 15 years ago
Anetka-gan, Nonsense - this is to cut off the main thing from the quote - the phrase "it seems to me." And then categorically declare "there is nothing better than your own villa or apartment", without any reservations like "for me", "I think", etc. Do you see any weirdness?
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answered 15 years ago
And I agree with Anetka-gan and HotLine, since there is absolutely no point in searching for a ticket and self-booking if there are already ready-made offers from tour operators. Those $ 200 that can be saved with this option can be lost somewhere when organizing the tour on your own. And the time to search for all this is also a very expensive resource. But when you go for the n-th time, and you don’t need a hotel at all (because you either have your own apartmentvilla or think that you can rent), then there is a need to monitor either tickets or absolutely cheap tours, the value of which is only in the tickets. And when you are left to yourself in your rented apartment - this is a completely different type of vacation. Personally, I like it more than feeling like a 5 * plant on the first line.
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