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Is it possible to fly from Italy to Egypt on a red passport of Ukraine on a tour package?
Mogy li poletet iz Italii v Egypt po zagranpasporty ykraini po tyr.pytevke
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аватар slavjanka17
Good afternoon, Olena_Olena. Yes, if you are a citizen of Ukraine, now we have two types of passports, ordinary foreign and it will be valid until the year of its expiration and biometric. Citizens of Ukraine receive a visa on arrival at the airport in Egypt, in Hurghada, the visa is paid, costs $ 25. USA, if you are flying to the Sinai Peninsula, for example, to Sharm, then there is no need for a visa. But there are nuances for which period of passport issuance, if you have 6 months left before the expiration of the passport, there may be problems. And in which country you buy a tour, it does not matter
аватар Borya_Danevich
There is a red passport, are they still valid in terms of time? See if at the time of departure back there is a reserve of 6 months, fly. Otherwise, the option will not pass.
аватар Borya_Danevich
And look what you have there with Italy? Is there a visa? Or are you there illegally? And then deported immediately.
аватар Borya_Danevich
If you read here, then don't risk it: http://www.shans.com.ua/?m=nr&id=50469&in=449
аватар Olena_Olena2
Da. srok pasporta zakan4ivaetsa 2020.
аватар Olena_Olena2
V Italii legal no.
аватар Borya_Danevich
Well, you have time. The only thing to assume is that the passport was renewed for another 10 years. That is, with such a passport, problems may arise when returning back to Europe. Egypt, in my opinion, does not care what kind of passport you have, they would give 25 dollars. for a visa on arrival and they will be happy))), at least they didn’t look at mine at all, they stuck a visa on the last page with visas, it seems that’s how it should be and that’s it. It turns out that according to our law, these passports are valid, but in Europe there have been changes, so it’s best to clarify for you in Italy if there will be any problems with crossing the border of Italy, go to their migration service. Moreover, you stay legally, the visa is valid, you fly out of Italy and return to Italy, there should be no problems. On the part of Ukraine, your passport is still valid, but what about Europe. . . .. But in general, of course, I would go to the consulate or embassy and change it to a new and biometric one, ask you to pull out visas from the old one, they will stay with you and will continue to operate if the deadline allows, now passports are being printed quickly, they have entered their schedule, well, plus time for delivery to Italy and then there will be no problems at all. Below link
аватар Borya_Danevich
turimm.com/zagranpasport/oformlenie-v-konsulstve-ukrainy.html
аватар Borya_Danevich
I also looked at the websites of our tour operators, and found this: Extended passports of Ukrainian citizens are valid for entering Egypt.
So have a great trip!!! Find out only that Europe let you go back with an extended one and go to the embassy, ​​don't delay, make a new one.
аватар Vika284
Borya_Danevich what extended passport?! There is no such thing as an "extended passport"!!! in the legislation of Ukraine or the rules for issuing and issuing passports of a citizen of Ukraine for traveling abroad, do not mislead tourists
In June 2007, the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine, by its decision, suspended the issuance of international passports on old forms, previously issued passports on old forms are valid until their expiration date
аватар Vika284
Olena_Olena2 probably you received your passport of a citizen of Ukraine for traveling abroad in the period before June 17, 2010. and therefore it is valid until 2020
Yes, you can travel to Egypt if you buy a tour from any Ukrainian tour operator, if your tour is to Hurghada, then a visa is issued on arrival and payment is $ 25
if Sharm and your stay in the Sinai Peninsula is 14 days and you will not leave the Sinai Peninsula, then write SINAI ONLY and do not pay for a visa
аватар Borya_Danevich
Vika284 Red passports were renewed by affixing the appropriate stamp on the extension for 10 years. This is the kind of passport we are talking about. Therefore, there is no delusion. You don’t know what kind of passport a person has and write from one point of view that the passport is 10 years old, but do you know she has a passport with a period of 10 years or is it the Red one that was renewed for another 10 years with a stamp? Therefore, you are not misled. And it is necessary to describe all possible cases, since we do not know all the components of this issue. If a person has an extended one, they may be warned at the EU border that they will not be allowed back into the EU with him. And immediately tell the person that if he stamps himself with SINAI ONLY, the path to Cairo to the pyramids will be closed. That's right in Ukraine and Egypt, such extended passports are still valid, but they began to look askance in the EU. Therefore, it is proposed to clarify with the Italian Migration Service the possibility of departure and subsequent return on such a passport. And what's the problem to change it at the embassy? In general, there are no problems and I do not see it.
аватар Borya_Danevich
We are no longer allowed into Israel, for example, according to biometrics, every other time. And we offer to travel to a person with red, and even it is not known what year of issue))) I would go and change it at the embassy. A month here, there for Egypt does not matter there, and in October it will be nice and warm.
аватар Borya_Danevich
Therefore, everything on my part is written correctly and correctly. Do not confuse the legislation of Ukraine and EU countries. Here we can invent at least an elephant instead of a passport, which we do with success, and the EU has its own rules, and if they decide not to accept such passports with a renewal stamp, then no law of Ukraine will help you in the EU. The deportation stamp also looks beautiful) Therefore, it will not be difficult to clarify in Italy, 10-30 minutes of wasted time. What are the difficulties? And to tell a person in Ukraine they act and release him on tour with such a document from the EU, well, at least irresponsibly, without clarifying this issue on the side of the EU.
аватар Borya_Danevich
In Italy:
Acceptance of documents for a foreign passport:
Monday, Thursday - 09.15-13.00, Tuesday, Friday: 10.15-13.00
Issuance of passports:
Monday, Thursday - 15.00-17.00, Tuesday, Friday: 09.15-10.15.
Acceptance of documents for notary (applications, powers of attorney)
Monday, Thursday - 9.15-12.00, 15.00-16.00
Tuesday, Friday - 9.15-12.00
Issuance of finished documents within one working day:
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Tuesday, Friday: 12:00 to 13:00
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https://italy.mfa.gov.ua/ua/consular-affairs/services/passport
аватар Vika284
Borya_Danevich read the rules for issuing and issuing passports of a citizen of Ukraine for traveling abroad - there is no such thing as renewing a passport of Ukraine for traveling abroad, only red passports of the USSR were renewed not for traveling abroad - read the legislation of Ukraine
Borya_Danevich attentively!! read what Olena_Olena2 wrote "Da. srok pasporta zakan4ivaetsa 2020" and "V Italii legalno"
Olena_Olena2 received her passport of a citizen of Ukraine to travel abroad before June 17, 2010, so it is red and it is valid and the expiration date is 2020
Borya_Danevich attentively!! read what I wrote "if Sharm and your stay in the Sinai Peninsula is 14 days and you will not leave the Sinai Peninsula, then write SINAI ONLY and do not pay for a visa", you saw the phrase "you will not leave the Sinai Peninsula"
аватар Borya_Danevich
Are you sure that the tourist knows where the Sinai Peninsula ends? The question should be put like this: Will you go on excursions? Get a visa!!! Not? Do not take a visa!!!) I have a red one extended with the appropriate stamp, by the way, for traveling abroad !!!!!! I just don't know why they are salted. As soon as the blue ones were given, I received the blue one, and the blue one has already expired for 10 years, I have already received biometrics, and people still have red ones. I don't understand what their people keep.
аватар Vika284
Borya_Danevich there are a lot of excursions without leaving the Sinai Peninsula
аватар Vika284
Borya_Danevich and stop scaring people who legally live in Italy and have a valid passport to travel abroad until 2010
аватар Borya_Danevich
You are confusing people. The person was given a specific situation that happened at the airport of Ukraine, with a person flying to Italy with a red passport, when the person was turned at our border. despite the fact that the passport is valid with the words that you will not be allowed there anyway, and this is despite the legislation of Ukraine. That is, in your opinion, such a risk is a noble cause ??? Once I was also turned into Sheremetyevo, with a service passport that was valid for us, but they did not accept it, because they decided not to accept them anymore. So isn't it better to change it? Why argue if it's better to change? A person is given practical advice, which for the next years will save him from constant jitters at the borders!!!!!!
аватар Vika284
Borya_Danevich read carefully more answers
"Da. srok pasporta zakan4ivaetsa 2020." mean the passport was issued before June 17, 2010, if the passport was issued in the first half of 2010, then it is valid until 2020
"V Italii legalno." - so tourists received a visa in a red passport that is valid until 2020
аватар Borya_Danevich
In any case, it's not for us to decide. I still remember my situation and shudder. When they are not allowed to Singapore on a connecting flight, a deportation procedure takes place, moreover, without explaining the reasons, they suddenly begin to say that they have decided to confiscate the passport altogether, and this is all despite the fact that it is valid in Ukraine, but they issued their instructions there. A contract flies to such a mother, all plans collapse, you are actually thrown out like a kitten and do what you want. Yes manal I such flights. After that, I change everything at once!)
аватар Borya_Danevich
So. I received an answer for you from the Italian Embassy in Ukraine. As you can see, this is done very simply and quickly:
Good afternoon,
to leave the territory of Italy and return a citizen of Ukraine,
residing in Italy, can on the basis of a residence permit.
Entry into the territory of Egypt is recorded in the passport. Visa Center
Italy does not have information whether an extended passport is suitable
Ukraine to enter Egypt (for example, to apply for a visa to Italy -
No):
Thus:
1. We know that a passport will pass in Egypt, even if it has been renewed, but as we understand it, your passport is simply valid until 2020.
2. As we understand, your passport is not renewed but valid until 2020, it contains a visa, so you can fly. They will not accept him for a visa, but you don’t need a visa, you either have or have a residence permit.
3. You can leave and enter Italy with a residence permit, so there will be no problems.
All. If you have a residence permit, no one will tell you. But with red passports, as you can see, there is a problem in the EU, they no longer take them for a visa, even though they operate according to our legislation.
Good luck.
аватар Vika284
Borya_Danevich read again carefully and do not build conjectures and do not scare people
and the Embassy of Italy in Ukraine and other embassies, consulates representing their countries in Ukraine and Visa Application Centers give official answers in 3 languages ​​(Ukrainian, English or the official language of the country) even if you write a question in Russian the answer will be Ukrainian, English or case in Italian
Yes, if you are a citizen of Ukraine, now we have two types of passports, ordinary foreign and it will be valid until the year of its expiration and biometric. Citizens of Ukraine receive a visa on arrival at the airport in Egypt, in Hurghada, costs $ 25. USA, if you fly to the Sinai Peninsula, for example, in Sharm, then there is no need for a visa "
"Da. Srok pasporta zakan4ivaetsa 2020. " means the passport was issued before June 17, 2010, if the passport is issued in the first half of 2010, it is valid until 2020
"In Italy legally.
"- means that tourists received a visa in a red passport, which is valid until 2020.
аватар Borya_Danevich
Don't treat me. I know the e-mail addresses of embassies:
Good day,
to leave the territory of Italy and return a citizen of Ukraine,
lives near Italy, may be based on a residence permit.
Entry into the territory of Egypt is recorded in a foreign passport. Visa Center
Italy has no information on whether an extended passport is suitable
Of Ukraine for entry into Egypt (for example, for a visa application to Italy -
no), this issue should be clarified with other competent authorities.
-
Sincerely,
VMS Kyiv
Visa Application Center of Italy
Centro Vista for Italy
via Khreshchatyk, 27-B [1], uff. VIP Premium Lounge
+380442203200 [2]
www.italy-vms.com.ua [3]
IMPORTANT INFORMATION:
We draw the attention of our customers to those
that is on the Ukrainian market
organizations that call themselves
"Visa Center of Italy", not having
official permission of the Consulate
Italy for this type of activity. Except
of which directly b
аватар Borya_Danevich
Call to find out who the embassy is there or not)))) There is a phone number above. On which they asked, on this they answered.
аватар Borya_Danevich
I have been working with embassies for many years, you tell me. I am not giving an official request, so that they answer me on a form and in Ukrainian. I already received BLUE in 2008, not red at all, and in 2018 it successfully ended).
аватар Borya_Danevich
Apparently Vika is for you. Your year of birth does not allow you to leave before 2010, so you don’t know how you renewed your passports. And I have been working with embassies since 1994 and already at that time I was dealing with visa issues, so I have nowhere stronger contacts, believe me.
аватар Vika284
Borya_Danevich read the question "Is it possible to fly from Italy to Egypt on the red passport of Ukraine on a tour ticket? "
read the correct answer "Yes, if you are a citizen of Ukraine, now we have two types of passport ordinary foreign and it will be valid until the year of its expiration and biometric. USA, if you fly to the Sinai Peninsula, for example, in Sharm, then there is no visa required. "
read the tourist's clarification on the validity of the passport "Da. srok pasporta zakan4ivaetsa 2020 "
read clarification of a tourist on a visa in Italy "V Italii legalno "
аватар Borya_Danevich
AND???? What follows from this? Do you have a residence permit? You know? Are you 100% sure that they will let her back on such a passport or even let her out of Italy not on a residence permit, but on such a passport? The category of being in Italy legally is very vague. I study legally in Italy, I legally work, but I did not receive a residence permit, but I have a work visa in my passport and I am renewing it. You don’t carry your passport to the migration service every day and don’t show it on the street so that someone tells you it’s time to change it. And they won’t tell you to contact the embassy or, even better, they will deport you to Ukraine. We have a lot of missing information. We do not know what kind of passport. Maybe it's actually a red official. We don't know if it was extended or not. Precisely because we do not have a lot of information, and in order to avoid possible misunderstandings and a person will be disappointed later in advisers, it is necessary to find out as much information as possible, on the basis of which a person will already make the right decision for himself.. And quick answers, not knowing all the information, are given only by tour agencies that sell tours like potatoes and they don’t give a damn what will happen next. Therefore, I do not see anything wrong with additional information, and even from the embassy.
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