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Should Travel professional group fly to Egypt?
Flight delays are not terrible. It’s scary if they change the hotel (I chose it for a long time, I want to go there) or even go bankrupt and don’t fly anywhere.
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Unfortunately, I can’t say anything about them, I’ve never flown through them ((If you’re afraid of bankruptcy, I’ll still advise Joint Up, they are now more or less getting on with flights
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answered 6 years ago
Why should they suddenly go bankrupt? who composes this? If you book in advance, then you should not change the hotel, since the hotel, if there are no rooms, becomes STOP SALE, and unscrupulous agents will still write this particular hotel on the voucher. In extreme cases, check with the hotel if there are free rooms for the dates, after paying for the tour, check with the hotel in a few days if there is a room reservation for your last name and dates.
Hotels, as a rule, respond quickly to such questions by mail, at least in those that I specified as necessary.
Hotels, as a rule, respond quickly to such questions by mail, at least in those that I specified as necessary.
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answered 6 years ago
I strongly do not advise, I have experience in November 2016 and May 2017. No amount of money will return a spoiled mood, especially the host from TPG in Sharm. This is something insane.
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answered 6 years ago
I flew from TPG to Sharm, the Bravo airline, but the transfer was from Zaporozhye to Krivoy Rog in winter, in ice. Therefore, we went with adventures to Krivoy Rog. The plane was a Boeing. There were no questions about the flight.
On the receiving side - they took me to the hotel and they did not interest me anymore.
Conclusion - if something interesting appears at the TPG and a flight from Zaporozhye, I will think about it and probably agree. But with John, who is AP, from nowhere and for no money!
On the receiving side - they took me to the hotel and they did not interest me anymore.
Conclusion - if something interesting appears at the TPG and a flight from Zaporozhye, I will think about it and probably agree. But with John, who is AP, from nowhere and for no money!
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answered 6 years ago
kasiko01, I agree with you only on the point of checking the reservation for a specific surname, but it doesn’t make sense to find out if the hotel is in the table, because TO buys the rooms and as a result sells them on tours and you won’t know the real situation in this way. Last year, it was this operator that specifically distinguished itself by replacing hotels (friends got in) upon arrival already on the bus, the soar-giving guide, as if nothing had happened, simply announced that the declared hotels were on the table, therefore, everyone goes to one good hotel where everyone will be accommodated. And it was somehow strange that people went to completely different hotels, of different price categories and stars, and they all gathered together to salt in one bunch ..... Since we arrived late, we had to spend the night in this hotel, but they wrote and demanded to settle to your chosen hotel in Belarus. As a result, they moved to another, not worse, but the vacation was completely ruined as a result of all these troubles.
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answered 6 years ago
Let's talk about STOPE now... hotels are occupied by max 40-50%.
Once we had a change of hotel, but we were warned 3 days before departure and offered a list of hotels, the hotels were no worse even returned the difference of 100$ in price.
As for flights and delays, my observation (I live near the airport, I see take-offs and landings).
For example, we look at the Kharkiv flight schedule on Wednesdays, there is flight 5041 from 10.10 to 24.10 and one flight is only 3.10, I am sure that a single flight will not fly on time.
Sometimes when buying tickets, say on 01.01.01, there are no planes for that date in the airport schedule, I call to find out and only when it's all there in the schedule I book a ticket.
Usually flights are tied to points A and B, i.e. the plane from Sharm takes off to Kharkov around 8-9 in the morning, in Kharkov it is 12-13, 1-1.5 for back and forth and 14-15 flies back. Single flight - you need to think of something somewhere, you know the result.
Once we had a change of hotel, but we were warned 3 days before departure and offered a list of hotels, the hotels were no worse even returned the difference of 100$ in price.
As for flights and delays, my observation (I live near the airport, I see take-offs and landings).
For example, we look at the Kharkiv flight schedule on Wednesdays, there is flight 5041 from 10.10 to 24.10 and one flight is only 3.10, I am sure that a single flight will not fly on time.
Sometimes when buying tickets, say on 01.01.01, there are no planes for that date in the airport schedule, I call to find out and only when it's all there in the schedule I book a ticket.
Usually flights are tied to points A and B, i.e. the plane from Sharm takes off to Kharkov around 8-9 in the morning, in Kharkov it is 12-13, 1-1.5 for back and forth and 14-15 flies back. Single flight - you need to think of something somewhere, you know the result.
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answered 6 years ago
yes, I agree, I missed something about the blocks ..
but I also had situations with TUI, though in Turkey, when boarding the bus they said that we were going to another hotel.
But I think if you book in advance, then the rooms should be
but I also had situations with TUI, though in Turkey, when boarding the bus they said that we were going to another hotel.
But I think if you book in advance, then the rooms should be
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answered 6 years ago
"if there are no rooms, the hotel becomes STOP SALE, and unscrupulous agents will still write this particular hotel on the voucher."
Do you even understand what you're talking about? The agent receives the entire package of documents from the operator in electronic, PDF form. The agent has neither the opportunity nor the goal to deceive the tourist. Such verbiage is simply outrageous. Heard a ringing .., but where is it from?
Do you even understand what you're talking about? The agent receives the entire package of documents from the operator in electronic, PDF form. The agent has neither the opportunity nor the goal to deceive the tourist. Such verbiage is simply outrageous. Heard a ringing .., but where is it from?
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answered 6 years ago
It was about the Republic of Belarus, acquaintances purchased a tour with the selected hotel in advance. It was in Turkey last season. And the problem there was not in the foot, but in non-payment by the operator. Tourists were taken to hotels that were paid for. For me personally, this would be tantamount to a disaster, because I approach the choice of a hotel very carefully, it is necessary to have such options as a water park (not one or two slides, but a full-fledged water park), food and other points. When choosing a monitor, I made a mistake and everything is being studied, and then hello, get another hotel. But I fly to Turkey only with a Pegasus, and thank God, for so many years I have never had any problems.
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answered 6 years ago
And in Egypt I buy a maximum of a month, in April of this year for 1.5, because the price appeared good and I began to abruptly finish the seats on the plane with a flight from Kharkov, but for me this is important, because it’s hard to go to Kyiv with children. If there was no such binding to the airport, then I would buy it just before departure.
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answered 6 years ago
oksanakiev understood from your comment that you are not far from the tourist industry if you protect them that way. This year, I personally encountered unscrupulous employees not of a travel agency, but of a CORAL TRAVEL tour operator. In January, we bought a tour to Sharm for the month of May, the price was very, very pleasant, the travel agent said that this was a promotion. A few days later, the price increased sharply, then again and again. Since we are regular guests of this hotel and we are well known, we asked to check the reservation at the hotel, but it was not there, we thought it was too early, although it appeared immediately with other tour operators. The travel agent who repeatedly contacted the tour operator was not given any explanation, and when I personally contacted the hotline, I had an explanatory conversation with the director of the travel agency about annoying clients. For three months, the reservation at the hotel did not appear. Three weeks before departure, the hotel manager contacted us and asked us to send copies of vouchers and tickets, as the hotel was already in the stack for our dates, and she herself sent a request to Coral. By the evening the reservation appeared. The tour operator cited a program failure. On the last day before flying home, we witnessed that a large company of Germans who had arrived had four people who did not have armor.
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answered 6 years ago
We were also not interested in the host of TPG. Until the moment there were problems with the flight home by TPG flights. Due to the debt of the TPG tour operator to carriers and airports, the moment came when about ten flights from Sharm to Krivoy Rog, Kyiv, Odessa, Lvov were immediately canceled and back to Sharm. The whole gang of representatives of the TPG in the hotel disappeared for two days, the phones of the representative office in Egypt were silent. We contacted the TPG in Ukraine through relatives, acquaintances, There was no official information. 50 people, We were able to organize and agree with the hotel administration on re-settlement for another two days, due to those TPG tourists who were supposed to arrive and did not arrive. Instead of the morning of December 2, we arrived at 23:00 on December 4 and Kyiv and another 15 hours traveled by bus along the icy road to the Dnieper. And none of the management even apologized and did not respond to written complaints. And this is constant.
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answered 6 years ago
You can easily fly from Kyiv, the carrier, to Sharm, to Hurghada UIA, and this year the delay is a maximum of 30 minutes, which is excellent for a charter.
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answered 6 years ago
They won’t pay on time, and UIA won’t fly, it’s not just about a hired carrier, but most importantly about the decency of the tour operator and its reliability, but here there are no comments.
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answered 6 years ago
I completely agree with 0676307776, because last year's problems were precisely because of non-payments. In Belarus, having set low prices for tours, they sold them, and as a result, neither the hotels nor the air carrier could fulfill their obligations to tourists in full. I remember this last year's calapse, little was advertised about these problems, but TA employees must remember. I know about it because my friends got in. And then she clarified and a friend from TA complained that everyone to whom she sold tours through TRG had a lot of problems and more.
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answered 6 years ago
Let's rake "flies from cutlets".
If these are weather conditions, especially in winter on ice (for me - from the TPG from Zaporozhye through Dnepropetrovsk to Krivoy Rog, landing from UIA in Kyiv instead of Zaporozhye again due to ice and delivery by buses) this can be understood, but when JohnAp cannot dial a flight and stirs up, then a flight from Zaporozhye, then from Odessa, and then from nowhere at all, and acts dishonestly, not informing his tourists about it and leaving it at the airport, or not paying for tours, changing hotels, etc.
And so I with such operator of business I do not want to have. And it's up to everyone!!!
If these are weather conditions, especially in winter on ice (for me - from the TPG from Zaporozhye through Dnepropetrovsk to Krivoy Rog, landing from UIA in Kyiv instead of Zaporozhye again due to ice and delivery by buses) this can be understood, but when JohnAp cannot dial a flight and stirs up, then a flight from Zaporozhye, then from Odessa, and then from nowhere at all, and acts dishonestly, not informing his tourists about it and leaving it at the airport, or not paying for tours, changing hotels, etc.
And so I with such operator of business I do not want to have. And it's up to everyone!!!
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answered 6 years ago
And here I note, it is written - "You can easily fly from Kyiv", but you still need to get to Kyiv.
Flights are most often postponed and canceled on the periphery of our wonderful country. I already wrote here once about how charters are arranged - an early departure from Kyiv. then an arrival from Egypt, for example, to Zaporozhye, then a flight to Egypt and a return to Kiev. Hence, somewhere something did not work out. and the whole chain is shifting. And instead of lunch, he flew to Hurghada at 24 o'clock and the delays were already after registration and for several hours. So the people of Kiev do not set themselves as an example! You are just lucky that you live in the capital.
Flights are most often postponed and canceled on the periphery of our wonderful country. I already wrote here once about how charters are arranged - an early departure from Kyiv. then an arrival from Egypt, for example, to Zaporozhye, then a flight to Egypt and a return to Kiev. Hence, somewhere something did not work out. and the whole chain is shifting. And instead of lunch, he flew to Hurghada at 24 o'clock and the delays were already after registration and for several hours. So the people of Kiev do not set themselves as an example! You are just lucky that you live in the capital.
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answered 6 years ago
Dear Alex 45, It was the 2017 season, summer. Winter has nothing to do with it.
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answered 6 years ago
In general, we are talking about Egypt, and I have never heard of overbooking in Egypt, they always settle in the chosen hotel for everything. So, it can be logically assumed that it is not TO but the Turks who are to blame, all examples of moving to another hotel in Turkey. So let's answer the person on the topic, and not remember when our loved ones were offended. Last year, in November, I flew out of Hurghada from TEZ and we had a delay of 7 hours, upon arrival I found out that some idiot "mined" Boryspil, so Tez or Roza Vetrov are to blame.
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answered 6 years ago
I personally did not answer you, my_contakt! I don't fly to Egypt in the summer.
Here's a fresh example! We wanted to see the south of Albania, Durres, Vleda, etc., there is a flight from Zaporozhye on August 31, was, was, and suddenly no! I call friends from TA. I ask how to explain? What do you think the answer is? So again, the Johns are weird. The flight was canceled because they didn’t get people! And I remember flying to Antalya with a half-empty plane, although it was Wizz at the beginning of his work in Ukraine.
Here's a fresh example! We wanted to see the south of Albania, Durres, Vleda, etc., there is a flight from Zaporozhye on August 31, was, was, and suddenly no! I call friends from TA. I ask how to explain? What do you think the answer is? So again, the Johns are weird. The flight was canceled because they didn’t get people! And I remember flying to Antalya with a half-empty plane, although it was Wizz at the beginning of his work in Ukraine.
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answered 6 years ago
Good. Let's! We will answer the TC to his question - "if they change the hotel (it took me a long time to choose, I want to go there) or they go bankrupt and we won't fly anywhere."
I can answer - ALL YOUR RISKS. Do not fly anywhere and sit at home, we cannot give guarantees! There are none!!!!
I can answer - ALL YOUR RISKS. Do not fly anywhere and sit at home, we cannot give guarantees! There are none!!!!
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answered 6 years ago
alex45 and if the board is stuck in Zaporozhye, then no one will send another board for tourists from Kyiv, everyone will be waiting there, which I experienced from my own experience. By the way, I flew with Pegasus then, and these assholes pushed us into the transit zone, although Luhansk was then closed for a day because of a snowstorm and they knew it, then we took four Pegasus in the ring and did not let us out until we served buses to the hotel.
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answered 6 years ago
Well, I'm writing this, maybe someone did not understand. NO ONE WILL SEND ANOTHER BOARD FOR TOURISTS.
These airlines, well, maybe except for UIA (although in my case, it was UIA that gave us buses, and we were brought from Kyiv to Zaporozhye airport on ice, which is closed at night and outside the city, and the tour company John, who is AP, I don’t respect, didn’t even ask, and where did its tourists go. At least for decency!) there are simply no extra planes.
These airlines, well, maybe except for UIA (although in my case, it was UIA that gave us buses, and we were brought from Kyiv to Zaporozhye airport on ice, which is closed at night and outside the city, and the tour company John, who is AP, I don’t respect, didn’t even ask, and where did its tourists go. At least for decency!) there are simply no extra planes.
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answered 6 years ago
Now we are considering a flight for October 14 to Hurghada from TEZ from Kyiv, for all other days back and forth there is a departure time, but we only have back. Zeros are burning from Kyiv for a month. Buy a tour, and then?
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answered 6 years ago
Yes, on 14.10. 0000 are on, but if you take for 7 nights, then back on 21.10. at 08-55 from Hurghada there is, if you take it according to anology, then from Kyiv somewhere at 3 o'clock in the morning.
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