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Good afternoon. Now everyone complains about joinup, they complain that they throw away the day of departure, and that upon arrival at the airport there are still a bunch of transfers of departure. Tell me who flew from join to charm with skyur carrier. how they throw, how to play it safe. I chose a hotel and only join works with it
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If from Kharkov, then I think that there will be no particular transfer. In the middle of June they chartered an Arab A-330 for 340 seats. In the middle of June, they returned from Sharm on this plane without delays. When they flew from Kharkov to Sharm on 5-06, there was a delay, but it was known in advance and instead of 2 o'clock in the morning they officially moved it to 5 in the morning, flew off at 6-30, which not so bad. I don’t think there will be a frank scam, follow the departures and arrivals at your airport
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answered 6 years ago
There is no way to play it safe, this is a charter ...., just strain the travel agent that you informed in advance about the postponement of the departure or follow the airport yourself
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answered 6 years ago
You can’t play it safe here, this is roulette. It is for this reason that I refused to buy a tour from them in April (as I felt ... Just people got stuck ...) so I read the contract when buying a tour and wonder at those who buy from them. In the section where my rights and refund, everything is spelled out in such a way that you won’t be able to return a penny. The phrase alone "funds are not returned if the tour disappears for the last season" is worth something. And it is written at the end of the section, where everything is clearly written .... But this phrase crosses out absolutely everything, because the concept of "burning season" can be pulled up under any tour. When I drew attention to this moment, an employee of TA Join Up said that we would arrange insurance and reimburse you, if anything ..... The question is, did anyone hear that someone would be compensated for something? I know a lot of claims against this insurance company, and I have never heard that I would compensate someone for something. Well, it's up to you to decide whether to buy from them or not.
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answered 6 years ago
Today, with a similar question about join up and different flights, I gave a link on facebook to a huge article by a girl who tried to fly to Egypt with her family, the Join up tour, under the article there are a lot of current comments (more than 4000 comments) what is happening now with departures not only from bravo and sky up, but also other operators and airlines https://www.facebook.com/anna.karanova.9/posts/1808349405926128
I repeat that all operators and airlines have problems with flights, even the vaunted windrose can also delay the flight, in my case, windrose rescheduled the flight from 14:20 to 7:00 in the morning a month before departure, and also rescheduled the return flight from evening to morning. On June 12, windrose delayed the flight for 3 hours Kyiv-Bodrum, on June 18, windrose delayed Kyiv-Antalya for 11 hours
I repeat that all operators and airlines have problems with flights, even the vaunted windrose can also delay the flight, in my case, windrose rescheduled the flight from 14:20 to 7:00 in the morning a month before departure, and also rescheduled the return flight from evening to morning. On June 12, windrose delayed the flight for 3 hours Kyiv-Bodrum, on June 18, windrose delayed Kyiv-Antalya for 11 hours
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answered 6 years ago
Shit. That Join up that his miscarriage Sky up.
If you want, I'll write in detail. Write - I will explain.
Never use these assholes.
Alexander.
If you want, I'll write in detail. Write - I will explain.
Never use these assholes.
Alexander.
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answered 6 years ago
Alexander, I'm not a supporter of travel agencies as such. He flew a Pegasus through Turkey to Sharm. But it turns out more expensive
Now package tours are cheaper. I have used join tours twice, last year and this summer. I can’t say anything particularly bad. Maybe I was lucky. True, there was a UIA plane last year. But it’s not an understandable mess at all ...., logistics managers are doldons, or greedy owners, or worse owners are “reformers”
Now package tours are cheaper. I have used join tours twice, last year and this summer. I can’t say anything particularly bad. Maybe I was lucky. True, there was a UIA plane last year. But it’s not an understandable mess at all ...., logistics managers are doldons, or greedy owners, or worse owners are “reformers”
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answered 6 years ago
Greed! At all stages ... Especially with TA .. most likely the commissions are so high that TA are ready to keep silent about system transfers - "shuffling". If we fought for customers at all "stages" - there would be no such mess. YOU CAN DECEIVE ONLY ONE TIME ....
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answered 6 years ago
I think that after this season, so actively developing joey up (a bunch of sales offices of their own were opened) will cease to be in demand. It will reach people that the difference of 150-200 ye on the tour is not worth the nightmare that they made this year. Naturally, now I will look a hundred times with proven operators (with whom they fly, what they offer). Such a calaps .... you are waiting for this rest like ..... you plow, you plow .... not for the purpose of having a "successfully" rest.
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answered 6 years ago
Have used this service many times.
The difference with competitors up to 500 bucks did its job.
While we were lucky, the tours went smoothly. Well, delays of 1-3 hours are not in the brush.
BUT...
Every time I tune in to some kind of ass.
And if some kind of swing began, the thought of saving + - 500 bucks would bring me to relative calm.))
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When buying a product below the market price (and Joyny and TPG sell this), you need to understand that somewhere they saved on something. And the product may not be of the best quality.
The difference with competitors up to 500 bucks did its job.
While we were lucky, the tours went smoothly. Well, delays of 1-3 hours are not in the brush.
BUT...
Every time I tune in to some kind of ass.
And if some kind of swing began, the thought of saving + - 500 bucks would bring me to relative calm.))
...
When buying a product below the market price (and Joyny and TPG sell this), you need to understand that somewhere they saved on something. And the product may not be of the best quality.
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answered 6 years ago
I don't know what $500 savings you're talking about. This year, when buying a tour for April for the whole family 2 + 2 (children 11 and 5 years old) for 12 nights in Egypt, it cost 2200 from the join, at first the price was 3300 from the teztour (this is all 2.5 months before the expected date), for 2 months, the price from the thesis was already 2200, well, for 1.5 months (departure from Kharkov, and so that I didn’t have to fly through Kyiv, I had to take the tour already) I bought this tour for 1800 from the thesis, while the joint price was 2200....
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answered 6 years ago
Our last trip to the EG (there is a review here) cost us $ 750 for three in a good hotel.
At that time, normal maintenance, hotels of this level, had nothing cheaper than 1200.
And we naturally fell for it. Yes, risk. Yes, I do not like Joyne from the very beginning.
But the savings were worth it.
But schA have them cheto quite all poorly. But for now, I would refrain from doing business with them.
At that time, normal maintenance, hotels of this level, had nothing cheaper than 1200.
And we naturally fell for it. Yes, risk. Yes, I do not like Joyne from the very beginning.
But the savings were worth it.
But schA have them cheto quite all poorly. But for now, I would refrain from doing business with them.
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answered 6 years ago
The beauty is that Joyne Apu is coming to an end. Cancellation and rescheduling of flights due to huge debts to carriers. Look at the prices of tours, the tour operator has sharply reduced the prices of tours that are a month later. The task is to collect as much money as possible before lawsuits start and bankruptcy. The tour operator officially announced the termination of flights to Spain. Travel agencies are in no hurry to return the money.
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answered 6 years ago
To date, Joint App has fully fulfilled its obligations to the airline and tourists. Flights to Spain have not been canceled for all cities (From Kyiv they still fly, for example). There are no significant changes in the price.
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answered 6 years ago
Well, everything will fall into place soon, if in July another Sky Up board arrives and the flight to Spain is fully resumed, then everything is not so bad. By the way, they launched in Tunisia, it is not clear, of course, who they will fill the sides with. In general, this month is decisive
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answered 6 years ago
And by the way, about the prices. I look at hotels in Korala, TPG, Anexa (similar, same dates) - the price is the same, sometimes in Joint and higher. The fact that they have losses they do not hide, it is possible to go bankrupt. But try to fix the situation, sort of.
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answered 6 years ago
Join up did not fulfill its obligations to tourists as of today July 6, 2018, they promise to pay compensation for non-departure in 2-3 weeks, the question is open on compensation
on flights to Spain from Kyiv and Join up quote from facebook photographer Sergej Onyshko dated July 2
"Hi friends!
Today, we have become headliners in highlighting our ordeals to spend a family vacation and fly from Boryspil with YanAir Airlines flight YE3421 on the JoinUp tour package.
Nothing happened. There was no limit to the indignation: after 7 changes in departure time and 26 hours at the airport ... We did not fly anywhere, the flight was canceled "
on flights to Spain from Kyiv and Join up quote from facebook photographer Sergej Onyshko dated July 2
"Hi friends!
Today, we have become headliners in highlighting our ordeals to spend a family vacation and fly from Boryspil with YanAir Airlines flight YE3421 on the JoinUp tour package.
Nothing happened. There was no limit to the indignation: after 7 changes in departure time and 26 hours at the airport ... We did not fly anywhere, the flight was canceled "
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answered 6 years ago
And about sky up quote July 4 A few more facts about flight KUP 5414:
- at the airport in Hurghada, only our flight did not have an image of the airline on the scoreboard. In Lviv it was SkyUp. Coincidence?
- tall people (people with long legs) are better not to get on this plane
- For 3 hours we sat on the plane in the heat with the flight attendants, who became the same hostages of the situation.
- No one could explain exactly why we do not fly and how long we fly away. One of the flight attendants said that most of all we are waiting for our corridor, but WHAT THE FIG, I'm sorry, we were waiting for him on the plane
- almost 2 years before departure the fuel truck arrived ???? it was even epic!
Who can tell me? Can the plane be refueled with 300 passengers on board?
#JoinUp, #SkyUp was that conceived? "
- at the airport in Hurghada, only our flight did not have an image of the airline on the scoreboard. In Lviv it was SkyUp. Coincidence?
- tall people (people with long legs) are better not to get on this plane
- For 3 hours we sat on the plane in the heat with the flight attendants, who became the same hostages of the situation.
- No one could explain exactly why we do not fly and how long we fly away. One of the flight attendants said that most of all we are waiting for our corridor, but WHAT THE FIG, I'm sorry, we were waiting for him on the plane
- almost 2 years before departure the fuel truck arrived ???? it was even epic!
Who can tell me? Can the plane be refueled with 300 passengers on board?
#JoinUp, #SkyUp was that conceived? "
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Constantly monitoring the price of a brand new hotel in Marsa Alam for October. In a few days, the price at John Apa fell by 20,000 gr. At Teza, no change. Alarming.
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answered 6 years ago
Disturbing. I also track several hotels, prices do not drop. But I still don’t like the situation that there are no flights from Odessa to Antalya since mid-July, maybe some kind of glitch in the program, I don’t know. Actually live and see. In any case, the situation should resolve I soon
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And these tours can afford to set prices, they were well advertised on 1 + 1, and Joint Up was declared almost bankrupt. Now, thousands of tourists who have booked with them in advance have a spoiled mood in advance and a negative attitude. Join up, you must somehow also comment on the situation in the press, somehow reduce the heat, otherwise the coverage of your every "bunch" will definitely lead to bankruptcy, and people will suffer
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answered 6 years ago
JUIija807173 representatives of join up commented and on July 3 gave a press conference together with the Minister of Infrastructure of Ukraine, on the 1 + 1 channel there was another show on Thursday July 5 with the participation of all the main "heroes" of this tourist Armageddon. join up , bravo and other tour operators and airlines have official facebook pages and comments there
Many comments, zero real cases
Many comments, zero real cases
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answered 6 years ago
Dear my_contact! Not a single tour operator wants to return the money, and as a rule, all contracts are drawn up in such a way that only the tourist is to blame for everything and bears responsibility. So there is no need to slander what exactly JoinUp is doing, and all the rest are white and fluffy.
Vika284, do you specifically select quotes from inadequate people or tourists who fly for the first time? You might think that flight rescheduling happens only with national air carriers (I repeat once again that in most cases it is the carrier that is to blame, and the operator may not be in business at all).
Several Austrian Airlines flights were canceled in Vienna due to the storm. In this regard, several dozen tourists in sleeping bags sleep right inside the airport.
And yes - passengers are forced to wait for the corridor on board, because boarding passengers in the cabin, taxiing, etc. take time that is not there.
And yes, refueling a plane with 300 passengers on board is normal.
So get your naysayers out of the way.
Vika284, do you specifically select quotes from inadequate people or tourists who fly for the first time? You might think that flight rescheduling happens only with national air carriers (I repeat once again that in most cases it is the carrier that is to blame, and the operator may not be in business at all).
Several Austrian Airlines flights were canceled in Vienna due to the storm. In this regard, several dozen tourists in sleeping bags sleep right inside the airport.
And yes - passengers are forced to wait for the corridor on board, because boarding passengers in the cabin, taxiing, etc. take time that is not there.
And yes, refueling a plane with 300 passengers on board is normal.
So get your naysayers out of the way.
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answered 6 years ago
mindguru, I disagree about contracts. Everyone has their own, but Pegasus, for example, has a normal money-back scale in case something happens before the trip (I know, because through Pegasus I book Turkey in Belarus and I know their contract inside and out) While Anex in 2016, the price for the hotel I wanted was 400 ye cheaper, but at the same time a 100% fine was prescribed, the impossibility of replacing tourists, etc. ... and this is half a year before the vacation, when anything can happen. I bought a tour from Pegasus . The thesis of the tour also has a normal money back scale in case .... And now the joint up has a 100% fine if the tour falls into the high season ... I didn’t have to return the funds, but my friends had a problem , the tour was bought for a lot of money from Pegasus. Everything was returned, and on the provision of docks as proof that the reason was really good, everything was returned, although less than 3 weeks remained before departure.
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answered 6 years ago
I was "lucky" to be stuck in Athens just at the time of the bankruptcy of the Aerosvit company. We flew there - everything was fine. Two days before the flight back, they accidentally learned that the company was being liquidated and, accordingly, it no longer operates any flights. Information through official channels - zero. National tradition. Found out quite by accident. What did we do, where did we turn ... did we return in the end? Have returned. Because it is said: rely on your grandmother, and your shirt is closer to your body. That's it. And then the howl was raised: the flight was postponediiiiiiiiiiii ...
What a terrible life!
What a terrible life!
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answered 6 years ago
mindguru to judge the adequacy of people, you can at least go to their pages and read what these people write about, how many times they have been abroad, these are real people who have encountered problems and real people who travel a lot and not only to Egypt and Turkey
No, not all are white and fluffy, all operators have problems, even teztour with windrose, and I wrote about this above. But TO join up , bravo airlines had problems before this situation and quite serious. Last November 2017, the Sharm-Kyiv flight, the bravo plane broke down after climbing and circled over Sharm for 2 hours and, thanks to the pilots, made a successful emergency landing, landing of the Antalya-Kyiv flight on June 14, 2018 in Zhuliany was seen by everyone. Tourist passengers on these planes were from TO join up, TPG and Pegasus
No, not all are white and fluffy, all operators have problems, even teztour with windrose, and I wrote about this above. But TO join up , bravo airlines had problems before this situation and quite serious. Last November 2017, the Sharm-Kyiv flight, the bravo plane broke down after climbing and circled over Sharm for 2 hours and, thanks to the pilots, made a successful emergency landing, landing of the Antalya-Kyiv flight on June 14, 2018 in Zhuliany was seen by everyone. Tourist passengers on these planes were from TO join up, TPG and Pegasus
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answered 6 years ago
The presence of pages in social networks does not in the least prevent respectable adequate people from asking inadequate questions.
Any Orthodox Ukrainian dreams of saving money on a flight (why are there so many fairy tales about low cost) and that at that time he would be served at the highest level.
Any Orthodox Ukrainian dreams of saving money on a flight (why are there so many fairy tales about low cost) and that at that time he would be served at the highest level.
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answered 6 years ago
We flew in the first half of June with Joinup - the flight to Hurghada from Kyiv with YANAIR was postponed for 2 hours, but we informed about it half a day before, back with SkyUp - we flew 30 minutes later. Everything went perfectly.
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Yes, sometimes JOINAP fulfills its obligations, although yesterday the people in Zhuliany blocked the flight to Georgia (they demanded that the plane be sent to Larnaca). For those who are at home! And for those who are being bullied?!!
Several times I met in similar situations even from Treviso (Venice), once with Joyne, he described his situation in the story, how he was resting in Hurghada in Lillyland (I will not repeat myself). And the main thing is not that we flew, it was the weather conditions, there was the strongest ice (glass, practically!), That our ordeals were from 4 am to 12 am. The point is that, unlike abroad, you do not receive any information and help from the one who put you up for good or not quite money.
Lately, I have been trying, given this situation, to minimize my losses. First, I insure myself in insurance companies against non-departure, the money, I was convinced, is returned. True, not instantly. But they returned. And our "valiant" courts are not needed, but in the courts, let the insurance companies deal with anyone, with an air carrier or an operator. Imagine if those who suffered now had such policies! They wouldn't talk about class action lawsuits on TV. Secondly, I never get involved with JointUp. e
Several times I met in similar situations even from Treviso (Venice), once with Joyne, he described his situation in the story, how he was resting in Hurghada in Lillyland (I will not repeat myself). And the main thing is not that we flew, it was the weather conditions, there was the strongest ice (glass, practically!), That our ordeals were from 4 am to 12 am. The point is that, unlike abroad, you do not receive any information and help from the one who put you up for good or not quite money.
Lately, I have been trying, given this situation, to minimize my losses. First, I insure myself in insurance companies against non-departure, the money, I was convinced, is returned. True, not instantly. But they returned. And our "valiant" courts are not needed, but in the courts, let the insurance companies deal with anyone, with an air carrier or an operator. Imagine if those who suffered now had such policies! They wouldn't talk about class action lawsuits on TV. Secondly, I never get involved with JointUp. e
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answered 6 years ago
I will continue!
... with its airlines. Is it possible that a person who got into these promotions does not lose extra money in order to eat, to be in normal conditions ?! Therefore, "a cheap fish is a fucking yushka"!
Let me pay more, but I will buy tickets of a normal airline, I will buy a normal hotel or apartments, even camping, but I will rest confidently, and not wallow on a dirty floor for days in ours, and even worse, in the terminals of such countries as Tunisia, Turkey, Cyprus, etc. .P.
And there are travel agencies that can help with this, and more and more people who use it.
... with its airlines. Is it possible that a person who got into these promotions does not lose extra money in order to eat, to be in normal conditions ?! Therefore, "a cheap fish is a fucking yushka"!
Let me pay more, but I will buy tickets of a normal airline, I will buy a normal hotel or apartments, even camping, but I will rest confidently, and not wallow on a dirty floor for days in ours, and even worse, in the terminals of such countries as Tunisia, Turkey, Cyprus, etc. .P.
And there are travel agencies that can help with this, and more and more people who use it.
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