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Can I get a refund for fake "gold"?
Resting a year ago with my family in Sunrise Island View, I bought a gold ring for a relative (stepfather) in a gold jewelry store at the hotel as a gift ... In the Old Market it was cheaper and there was more choice, but I was afraid that they would not be "cheated" ... The market was all- still... And here is the result: upon examination by jewelers in Ukraine, the ring turned out to be ... silver with gilding. The price paid for the ring is considerable. The ring did not fit my stepfather (small). the same hotel now (in a year), since I'm going there again in a month?
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10 subscribers  • asked 2011-10-1813 years ago
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аватар jabetta
Oh wow! So believe the Arabs. Are there any documents for the product? If so, what is written there (if in an identification language)?
аватар surgeon72
No, the seller with the ring did not give any documents ... But I, the fool, did not demand ... Will contacting the tourist police help? Or is it a disastrous thing a year later?
аватар jabetta
What, even there is no elementary tag?
Are there any seals (such as samples) on the product itself?
аватар surgeon72
There is an Arabic script with the numbers "921" ... To my objections that gold of such a high standard is practically not used for jewelry purposes, the seller replied: "very good gold, very good sample." And where did you see the tags on Egyptian gold? For example, I have not seen anywhere ....
аватар surgeon72
My only desire is to smash his face upon arrival.....
аватар jabetta
I've just never been interested in Egyptian gold (for me there is only "gold" - the sea) - I know world standards.
Yes, the Egyptians know how to talk about their "best" product. You are, to put it mildly, "too gullible buyer." I don’t want to upset you, but I don’t see any “hooks” in your case (again, it’s not a fact that this “office” still exists there, because, as you understand, everything has changed a lot there over the past year). But, let's not lose heart in advance (because, as I understand it, you have already morally said goodbye to money), maybe our girls from Sharm will tell you something intelligible about this?
And words like: "very nice gold, very nice sample" cannot be sewn to the case, unfortunately, but perhaps there are some loopholes - let's wait for our "locals".
Good luck!
аватар jabetta
"My only desire is to smash his face upon arrival"
My friendly advice to you - keep yourself in the "frames" (I understand your feelings), as if not to have big problems. Good luck!
аватар surgeon72
Well, where else to buy goods in Egypt, even with a minimum guarantee, if not in hotel shops? Yes, and water, and hibiscus, and aroma oils, and snorkel masks, coral. Slippers are more expensive than on the street ... And by the way, a where in Sharm itself there are gold stores with a more or less good reputation? (for the future, maybe something your wife will like ...)?
аватар jabetta
The answer is simple - do not buy gold in Egypt! You just need to go there for other values, that's all. Do not despair! Let's wait for the comments from the "local" girls, maybe they will tell you something sensible.
аватар musiknew
It is a pity to upset you, it is unlikely that you will return or exchange something. After all, there is no evidence left. Don't buy gold in Sharm, it's just not good here, even if it's really gold... you can buy gold not in tourist cities, but here - just a beautiful product. Don't be discouraged, but hotel shops don't mean anything yet. As an option - if you go on an excursion to Cairo, for example (in extreme cases, to Dahab) - you can buy something more or less there. And it's best to take an individual tour and then go shopping. Products will be beautiful and high quality.
аватар musiknew
And further. Here everywhere, I emphasize, everywhere, the goods are the same. What's on the market, what's at the hotels.
аватар lsklsk
My husband and I, the guide in Luxor "swallowed" for $ 11 supposedly silver pendants with our names in the ancient Egyptian language. So this suspension rusted before our departure! But on the other hand, how the guide praised these pendants, and that he himself wears them, and his wife, and children. I completely agree with jabetta, in Egypt there is only one gold - the Red Sea, with its amazing, beautiful underwater world.
аватар Pachok
"By the way, where in Sharm itself are there gold stores with a more or less good reputation? (for the future, maybe something your wife will like ...)?"
Mdya ... Experience with the ring does not teach anything :((
IMHO, nothing can be proven. If you had a check that said that the ring was gold, if there was a tag from the ring, if it had a normal sample, then you could still try.
And so he easily says that:
- he sold you a silver ring as a silver
- he sold you an excellent gold ring, but you show another
- he did not sell anything to you and sees you for the first time.
What is 921 is not at all clear, there is no such test in nature, neither for gold, nor for silver. Maybe 925?
аватар Pachok
I agree that Egyptian spillikins from the turzone should not be considered as jewelry. Souvenir and all. Exactly for the amount that is not a pity to give for a souvenir.
аватар Samana
IMHO, nothing can be proven. If you had a check that said that the ring was gold, if there was a tag from the ring, if it had a normal sample, then you could still try.
And so he easily says that:
- he sold you a silver ring as a silver
- he sold you an excellent gold ring, but you show another
- he did not sell anything to you and sees you for the first time.
I will add one more from myself: but prove that this is not gold.
And they are unlikely to believe the expertise that you conducted in your homeland, the maximum will come to expertise in Egypt, which will not be cheap pleasures.
аватар toxic
Where is the guarantee that this store has the same owner-seller? It's a waste of nerves in my opinion. Consider your purchase as an expensive souvenir. And be careful in the future!
аватар aisha_sharm
through the tourism police, you can try to make a return.
аватар irina1988
I bought jewelry a couple of times in Egypt in Hurghada - last year a diamond ring, in one ring I changed zirconium to a diamond, this year I bought a white gold ring with a diamond and my mother received a sapphire ring as a gift. A friend also bought a diamond ring. We have received certificates for all products. Everything was checked in Ukraine. Real. I can’t say that there are products of poor quality. I agree - there is clumsy work (((( - not very expensive. And there are cool products - the price is appropriate, but cheaper than in Ukraine.
аватар sigur62
It will not be possible to return the money. No options.
Break his face... well, I don't know, you can try, but only if he comes to you in Zhytomyr.
аватар smeschik
Yes, complete nonsense, no one will return anything, carry on your ring._))
аватар surgeon72
Yes, and I don’t wear it ... I generally don’t wear rings, not that profession ...
аватар surgeon72
I completely forgot about the ring ... Only in connection with the fact that I was going to this hotel again, I decided to get it from the safe and check with the jewelers ... Otherwise, it would have been lying to itself ... It’s just that you need to somehow punish these "Egyptian freaks", and then you look, and the opportunity presented itself ... Well, this seller will definitely not work there either! It is embossed, it is impossible to "roll" it to the desired size ... I did not expect such a heated discussion awaiting my question! I told this as a warning to others ... EVERYTHING! CLOSE THE TOPIC!
I will respond more harshly to any fresh comments ...
аватар smeschik
I’ve been buying clothes in Turkey in SOVIET Istanbul for the last years, well, probably - 15,))))
So I didn’t see anything there, once I bought leather coats with fox collars for 550 bucks each, probably 50 pieces, but he only had 42 sizes in the store, I paid a deposit and waited for four days when they would send me the rest of the sizes, in short, I the last day of departure they sent them in different sizes, and when I got them at home, it turned out that he altered the stickers with sizes and I bought all the coats of the same size, but the stickers were 36 and 38 and 40, etc.)))))), yes I I can talk for a long time about the Turks, in short, there is no such Turk who will not deceive a Russian tourist.)))) I think that you fell under exactly such a distribution.))))))
аватар jabetta
The story with the coat is cool, but what does the Turks have to do with it? Here we are talking about a ring bought in Egypt.
аватар smeschik
Blah, well, you're stupid, they bred us like that ......, but okay, we drove through. ((((I won't answer anymore
аватар Pachok
"There is no such Turk who will not deceive a Russian tourist.))))"
In your case, rather, there is no such huckster who does not deceive another huckster.
Here we are talking about the usual purchase, besides - in Egypt.
аватар Allsharm.com
surgeon72, Well, what can a fellow countryman tell you, I would also fill him with a face, but as jabetta advises, we will control ourselves :) 921 is 100% silver coated with gold plating, so due to ignorance it can be mistaken for gold.
Well, you also don’t take a certificate, but he didn’t give it cunning, and in the store, especially at the hotel, they are obliged to give it !! Well, now to argue what he did not give and what was not demanded late, the hope is that when you return to this hotel you will find the same store, but the question of whether the same seller is there remains open.
If he is there, do not rush to beat the face, but first for good and who knows, everything can settle down. And the tourist police, as aisha_sharm wrote, alas, will not help you, you have no proof (certificate from that store) and, alas, a year has already passed, the cunning seller will say I don’t know, I haven’t seen him ... Therefore, let luck be on your side and Write to us then at least a couple of lines.
аватар Allsharm.com
And about the Egyptian gold, it always touches how they prove that our Ukrainian city is, but only their super. Yes, there are very beautiful handicrafts and it is not easy to buy them in Sharm, I agree with musiknew ''gold can be bought not in tourist cities, but here - just a beautiful product. '' Against the background of your post, I began to look at my gold and try to find a sample there, a magnifying glass to help me, which I don’t have :), my husband only saw 18 on one, they have 14, 18.21 and 24 carats. There are many gold shops in Sharm, but I only visit one where I know the owner a long time ago and only buy from them.
аватар surgeon72
THANKS TO ALL!
аватар surgeon72
Well, why do you all minus smeschik and irina1988? One for telling a similar story about the Turks, and the other for having the opportunity to really buy expensive gold things in Egypt? it’s not in vain that they say: our people are so mean, if someone gets into “shit”, “fucked up” by their own gullibility, they also mock him with sarcasm, “teach”, and who lives at least a little better and can imagine a little allow more, trample in the DIRT!? What kind of people are you? What would an innocent question be to remove half of a person’s rating? !!!one
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