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Need advice or guidance on the situation. Marriage with a Cop and the issue of housing
The girl is officially married to an Egyptian (Copt), there was a wedding and legalization of marriage. The girl is a citizen of Ukraine. In the process of living, it turned out that the man did not have his own housing, the car was provided by the company in which he works. Initially, the man took out a loan of $ 5,000 to buy furniture and completely fill an empty rented apartment, now every month about 5,000 pounds. goes to pay for an apartment and housing, the man has a younger brother. Initially, when a Ukrainian woman got married, the Egyptian said that they had an apartment in Tanta with their brother and mother (his father died a long time ago), but he refused his share in favor of his younger brother. And he will give him $ 1000 for this heritage right. Four years have already passed, my brother has not paid anything, he evicted his mother to a rented apartment in Tanta, got married a year ago and has already made repairs there. As a result, we get: an older brother without housing in a rented apartment in Cairo, a mother in a rented apartment, grandparents live in Helwan in the likeness of an “apartment”, which is also rented for 99 years.
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After the death of my grandfather, my grandmother will probably go outside. In principle, the salary of an Egyptian spouse is enough for a normal life, paying for an apartment and a loan, food, and so on. But, buying an apartment is out of the question. A girl in Ukraine has a house, her mother lives there, she is the mistress of the house. And suddenly the Egyptian begins to say that they say sell the house and let's buy a house in Cairo. They don't have children. Now there is enough finance for a normal life, his mother never worked anywhere, she is a downtrodden person in life. So about the role as a grandmother, sometimes looking after a child is out of the question. The girl has a big house in Ukraine. Your own garden, vegetable garden, mother has a good profitable business (monuments), live and rejoice in one word that the girl’s mother doesn’t want to change such a quiet life now (after 8 hard years of caring for two old men, a bedridden and a stroke, and all by herself ) to hot Cairo and constant dependence on her daughter's husband in a foreign country in her old age.
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answered 4 years ago
If we go by analogy with Ukrainian legislation, then the girl has nothing to do with the apartment of her younger brother and has no rights, because. she was bought/inherited before marriage. Further, it all depends on who is the owner and whether there are any documents for the right to buy (commitment, receipt) that are notarized, which can be presented to the elder brother in court. It should also be borne in mind that Egypt is a very corrupt country and the one who has the most money wins.
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answered 4 years ago
The girl's husband, seeing that the issue with the sale of housing is being postponed, began to put pressure on the girl - let's give birth to a child. Without a child, I don't need you. She understands that it is possible to give birth to a child in Ukraine, there is shelter here, there are no loans, here is a mother who will always tell you and help, air and in general, everyone knows who lives in Cairo, that you can’t go out into nature with a stroller, or you need to live in an expensive compound. There are no playgrounds, and everyone goes to the malls for the weekend, where there are no birds, no rivers, no fresh air. The girl's husband understands that as a child he will bind her for life, and she will put pressure on her mother to sell the house. And now she is a free bird.
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answered 4 years ago
The girl was initially misled when she was told that there was such a small apartment in Tanta, a godforsaken city. The husband works in Cairo and has been living there for a long time, so he will write off his share of the apartment in Tanta to his brother. The girl was very surprised when the younger brother, having married, evicted his own mother to a rented apartment. He made repairs there and now he wants to sell the apartment and move to Cairo! As it turns out that the compensation for the older brother is not estimated at $ 1000, but much more! But the older brother (husband of a Ukrainian woman) is silent. As far as I know, square meters in Cairo - yes, after the death of a father or mother, there are such fights for them, and then all of a sudden $ 1000 for which you obviously can’t buy anything, and the situation is back to normal so calmly.
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answered 4 years ago
The mother of the older brother (the husband of a Ukrainian woman) of course complains about her younger brother, but she does not dare to say something about the fact that he evicted her to a rented apartment. There, a newly-made daughter-in-law, who is planning to move to Cairo, took over the apartment. Yes, the Egyptians love children, whoever doesn’t love them, but you need to look at the situation sensibly - so that you don’t run around embassies and cry with tears in Russian groups for help, ask for money for a stroller or help, shelter me with a child. A Ukrainian woman, seeing that he is a good person, works, brings everything to the house, gives salary, she helped him grow up the career ladder, his salary grew, the company gave him a car. He began to dress well, the apartment is a full bowl. But there is no housing, which means there is no rear! If something happens to him on the road or something else, she will stay with the child on the streets of Cairo. Her husband's mother herself lives in a rented apartment in Tanta. All the brothers and sisters of the Mother - no one helps with anything, they all help their children and grandchildren.
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answered 4 years ago
Here's how it turns out when she got married - she didn't set him a condition, no housing, no car - I don't need you. And then suddenly the Egyptian says - I don't need you without a child. And all this despite the fact that now the situation is very difficult due to the corona, reasonable people turn on the brain, if you suddenly lose your job, childbirth, training, school - everything costs a lot of money in Cairo (I'm talking about the average level of a resident), if he had housing - no question, she, as a foreigner, would have shelter. And so what happens, a goal is like a falcon, well, there is a good job - yes, but no one buys an apartment for salary now. The girl helped him not only with his career, but also insisted that he continue his studies at the university for a doctorate degree, helps him to relax at sea, sometimes go abroad (work trips), all this when she married him - not there was not even a good suit or coat. They treated each other with understanding, he let her go for 1-2 months to visit her mother in Ukraine
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answered 4 years ago
They didn’t have children, because while the grandparents (owners of the house) were lying down, and then suddenly he broke loose, began to find out the prices per square meter in Ukraine, constantly asking how the process was going according to the documents. Of course, she appreciated his seriousness of intentions - a good wedding was made, a full package of documents, a church marriage, she has a resident visa, a bank account, and so on. But ! What is it like when you don't have your corner in a foreign country! Moreover, the husband does not have his own corner, and the relative has bitten off the apartment and already wants to sell it and move to Cairo. The company gave the car, so they can pick it up. Why give birth to poverty?! What would then barely make ends meet? If his mother had at least a living space, this is not life - wandering from apartment to apartment. Despite the fact that now the Egyptian is already accustomed to comfort, order, good things. If she goes to visit her mother in Tanta, then with great desire, because there are no those amenities and comfort, as in a Cairo apartment. And the birth of a child will aggravate the financial situation
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answered 4 years ago
Your advice, suggestions for this situation. even if you sell a house and buy housing in Cairo, the Egyptian wants housing in his name, since a foreigner must pay a large tax. Well, excuse me, is it reasonable to sell a large house with a garage, with a garden and write it down for an Egyptian? Even if he is a cop. And they don't get divorced. Of course not. As a person, he is a good person, but as practice and life show, you will not be fed up with love alone, and even more so how to explain to a child if there is not enough money, and they go from apartment to apartment. No salary - nothing to pay for housing. What if there is some kind of operation? his relatives didn’t even give them anything sensible for the wedding, and almost didn’t give them any money. Now the girl understands perfectly well that an Egyptian would not marry him, especially a smoker, there is no housing, no gold - no matter how smart you are, no one would agree. If we talk about Egyptians with higher education, from good families, and if they are also beautiful and modest, this is generally a rarity. There's a hat oooh what you need.
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answered 4 years ago
Advice in personal life is always difficult. But as for me, the faster the girl runs away to her homeland (by any available means) and forgets about Egypt, the more she will save strength, nerves and money both for herself and her loved ones. You don’t even need to think about children from the Egyptian. And if necessary, he solves all legal issues remotely without returning to Egypt. And about the chain of relations between relatives in Egypt, in general, you need to forget as quickly as possible.
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answered 4 years ago
Yes, she has now arrived in Ukraine, she has all the documents on hand with her and even a legalized marriage certificate, there was a mink coat, boots and warm clothes. That's all. As her husband realized that she was not engaged in selling the house, but in its improvement, he immediately sang a song about the child, saying that his brother’s wife was already pregnant, they and they were already expecting a child. And we have been married for 4 years and then I will grow old and will not be able to have children, and the Bible says that marriage is created to create a family and have a child. It is so, but then such unfortunate mothers walk around the world with outstretched hands. And she tells him that the time is now difficult, and so thank God that there is enough for a normal average life. And the child will be - you will not change the oil in the car and buy planers, but everything will go to the child. Because his father didn't leave anything for him. No housing, no money. So there is nothing to produce poverty.
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answered 4 years ago
to a girl who married a poor Egyptian "Seen the eyes that bought .. "
I will also 100% support andreyvip and add that I will return to Ukraine on the next flight
I will also 100% support andreyvip and add that I will return to Ukraine on the next flight
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answered 4 years ago
Well, it's good that the girl is at home. For Kopt, this is a purely commercial project. Let's go without the Bible and other parables. Behind this is the road to the church. If you want real action, do it, don't drag it out. They forgot about Kopt and let the girl live in peace without responding to calls and correspondence from the word AT ALL. Needed for business - let the girl change her faith. Many Copts go to Islam to resolve such issues. This marriage is a mistake of youth, which can be completely corrected. You just need to act wisely.
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answered 4 years ago
Why should she change her faith? She remained Orthodox Christian as she was, a divorce can be obtained in the local court of Ukraine, I think. When her mother flew to visit them, she saw with a fresh look, so to speak, the poverty in which his mother and grandfather live, these tiny square meters (and not their own, but rented), of course, the apartment that they rent for housing in Cairo, in good location and spacious , well and tastefully furnished. But sorry, who needs furniture without housing?! He then sees that the sale of such a house and business from his mother - well, neither to the village nor to the city, so he began to sing a song about children. At work, everyone is interested in how you have been married for 4 years, but no children. Mom constantly washes his brain. Then he went off the rails, and then the girl found porn on his phone, and talking with a girl of a “bright” appearance from Russia, he swore for a long time and swore to her that they were just friends. What kind of friends can there be when this "bright" and two words in English will not connect. So I want to help a person open his eyes
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answered 4 years ago
Of course, it would be nice if my mother flew away for the engagement with the girl. But there were sick parents in the house, and she was simply tied to the house. And the Egyptian twisted everything very competently, he played so that the cards were revealed after the marriage. However, it's easy to live. But for what ?!? At any moment she can become pregnant and that's all, then he has all the trump cards. And a good and promising job at one moment can turn into unemployment, and then a loan. And every month you need to give 2500. Need advice from outsiders. And most importantly, she does not have great love and rose-colored glasses.
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answered 4 years ago
“the main thing is that she doesn’t have great love and rose-colored glasses” it’s great to let her sit in Ukraine and, as they said earlier, she will forget this habib family forever.
What trumps does he have if she is now in Ukraine, and even if she becomes pregnant?
What trumps does he have if she is now in Ukraine, and even if she becomes pregnant?
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answered 4 years ago
Yes, none! He is very afraid of this shame in front of neighbors, relatives and colleagues. But she will have to go because all her warm clothes remained there, I think it would be better if she flew with her mother. Because if one, he can persuade her to stay.
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answered 4 years ago
What warm things are you talking about???!!!! Will buy new ones. If he goes, he will be a complete fool. I can't say culturally.
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answered 4 years ago
For a long time there was no Egitian Santa Barbara
In a wild foreign country without work, housing and the right to give birth to a homeless person, it’s a prospect. It doesn’t smell like a good guy there, but the girl is definitely naive. TS Mom? Then pick up the docks and don't let go. Risking your life for the sake of clothes and worthless mink? A fool will figure out how to turn a stray (in every sense) wife into a ram's horn in his Muslim home. It is foolish to hope that our man is a Copt. Forget about the cunning foreigner, like a terrible dream and build life at home, where even the walls help
In a wild foreign country without work, housing and the right to give birth to a homeless person, it’s a prospect. It doesn’t smell like a good guy there, but the girl is definitely naive. TS Mom? Then pick up the docks and don't let go. Risking your life for the sake of clothes and worthless mink? A fool will figure out how to turn a stray (in every sense) wife into a ram's horn in his Muslim home. It is foolish to hope that our man is a Copt. Forget about the cunning foreigner, like a terrible dream and build life at home, where even the walls help
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answered 4 years ago
The fact is that the house is big in the city, my mother has a business that constantly generates income, there are no old grandparents, no children, the girl has an excellent relationship with her mother, the issue of finance is not at all. No wonder they say that freedom as a mother is the most precious thing in the world. It's just strange that a man so urgently wants a child, and constantly delayed the opportunity to learn Arabic, probably so that she would not understand anything. When he saw that a Ukrainian woman didn’t go to real estate agencies, but put things in order at home, beauty, helps her mother renew the bath, etc., he suddenly stood on his hind legs - without a child, I need you, so sit with your mother. And that's it, silence.
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answered 4 years ago
without a child, I need you, so sit with your mother. And that's it, silence.
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Men, like children, are outstanding manipulators. And the poor, but far from stupid Egyptians are just aces in this. Even the most primitive scarecrow is easy to tie a fragile mind tightly. Working cliches - look at yourself, who needs you, you will disappear without me, there are plenty of young people. "Without a child, I need you, so sit with your mother" from the same opera. Then disappear, and the victim acquires complexes, fears and loses the will to resist. If a girl realizes the depth of the problem and asks for help, there is hope. But if the pressure is only from the outside (it doesn’t matter mother, friend), she is doomed
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Men, like children, are outstanding manipulators. And the poor, but far from stupid Egyptians are just aces in this. Even the most primitive scarecrow is easy to tie a fragile mind tightly. Working cliches - look at yourself, who needs you, you will disappear without me, there are plenty of young people. "Without a child, I need you, so sit with your mother" from the same opera. Then disappear, and the victim acquires complexes, fears and loses the will to resist. If a girl realizes the depth of the problem and asks for help, there is hope. But if the pressure is only from the outside (it doesn’t matter mother, friend), she is doomed
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answered 4 years ago
If she, a girl not stupid, stays here, files for a divorce, and is free, things are not worth returning to another country for.
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answered 4 years ago
No brains - consider a cripple. What kind of marriage is needed??
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answered 4 years ago
"For a long time there was no Egitian Santa Barbara
In a wild foreign country without work, housing and the right to give birth to a homeless person, it’s so-so a prospect.
Also give birth to him.
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:))) Here I am about the same. They also ask for advice. This is such a banter.. Nav. If true, then run and in a couple of years you will say thank you. Or is it a pity for a girl to wear a fur coat? .. then this is again a question about brains.
In a wild foreign country without work, housing and the right to give birth to a homeless person, it’s so-so a prospect.
Also give birth to him.
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:))) Here I am about the same. They also ask for advice. This is such a banter.. Nav. If true, then run and in a couple of years you will say thank you. Or is it a pity for a girl to wear a fur coat? .. then this is again a question about brains.
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answered 4 years ago
And why did the girl need a fur coat in Egypt?
And another question - before the wedding, the girl didn’t see all the Egyptian relatives and couldn’t even estimate their standard of living offhand? Or so strongly wanted to get married abroad?
And another question - before the wedding, the girl didn’t see all the Egyptian relatives and couldn’t even estimate their standard of living offhand? Or so strongly wanted to get married abroad?
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answered 4 years ago
There were very cold days in Egypt, and mink coats are worn there. Cairo and Alexandria are colder than, for example, Sharm. The girl saw the family at the engagement, it turned out that the apartment was rented and a performance was played. And relatives on the other line all live well, they have their own businesses. They tried to throw dust in their eyes.
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answered 4 years ago
The fact is that the girl has been married for 4 years and all this time he did not talk about the child, but he wanted to, but the question was not an edge. As a couple, they were admitted to the evenings at the Embassies of Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Russia. He is personally acquainted with the ambassadors; two ministers were invited to their wedding. The fact of the matter is that such an Egyptian, but there is no housing of his own. He fully provides for it, gives money for expenses, on the one hand there is freedom, but on the other hand, it is not. For example, the study of Arabic was constantly delayed, or, as it is now, I want a child and that's it. And it was at the moment when her mother became the mistress of the house. There, the Egyptian did not miss and the acquaintance did not take place in the resort area, and he writes off the state of his mother for the loss of her husband and breadwinner - father. They met in Kyiv, at an international exhibition, and what bribed her that the Egyptian was not a Muslim, but a Copt. And if marriage through a church in Cairo means everything is serious.
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answered 4 years ago
"They, as a couple, were admitted to the evenings at the Embassies of Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Russia" LOL))))
The series deviated into fantasy style
The series deviated into fantasy style
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answered 4 years ago
I thought you had long understood what advice everyone gave you here, and you keep writing and writing. You convince yourself of something. We do not need to run away, we have long understood.
Let the girl go to Egypt. There is a beloved Copt, there is a fur coat, if she wears it in Cairo, in her homeland she will need to wear three fur coats in winter. Again, there are ambassadors from different countries. Some merit.
Yes, and we will all be calmer. Somehow I don't feel sorry for the person. She deserved her happiness in Egypt. )))
Let the girl go to Egypt. There is a beloved Copt, there is a fur coat, if she wears it in Cairo, in her homeland she will need to wear three fur coats in winter. Again, there are ambassadors from different countries. Some merit.
Yes, and we will all be calmer. Somehow I don't feel sorry for the person. She deserved her happiness in Egypt. )))
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